McCain's New Vice President

nah, I'd screw a knot hole in a fence,,still take Peggy!!!!

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Originally posted by RogueLeader

I voted "A political attempt to pull all the Hilary support"... but let's face it... with today's economy, especially with the 500 point drop in the Dow the other day (sorry, I work in financial services), it will take more than a pretty face to sway voters, in my opinion... and have you seen the pictures of her hunting and her around her kill? I guess they're not counting on the PETA vote this year, huh?

PETA annoys me for their hypocrisy and general obnoxiously over-the-top haughtiness.

That being said, I don't think PETA and 2nd amendment supporters often see eye to eye.


As far as the economy goes, well, that's just a fucking mess that has taken lots of irresponsibility by lots of different parties to create and we're now being forced to pay for our/their greed/stupidity.

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Originally posted by EricLindros

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PETA annoys me for their hypocrisy and general obnoxiously over-the-top haughtiness.

That being said, I don't think PETA and 2nd amendment supporters often see eye to eye.


As far as the economy goes, well, that's just a fucking mess that has taken lots of irresponsibility by lots of different parties to create and we're now being forced to pay for our/their greed/stupidity.

Well Said,,,, for da young man, Srsly!!!

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Originally posted by EricLindros

As far as the economy goes, well, that's just a fucking mess that has taken lots of irresponsibility by lots of different parties to create and we're now being forced to pay for our/their greed/stupidity.

I was talking with this girl, and she was blaming the economy and the market drop specifically on Bush.

I had to keep eating and drinking to keep from laughing at her.

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Originally posted by Bangledesh

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I was talking with this girl, and she was blaming the economy and the market drop specifically on Bush.

I had to keep eating and drinking to keep from laughing at her.

Why??? It's not like it can be blamed on Clinton... Or did she just have a bad argument?

Clinton= no I did not !!!

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Originally posted by RogueLeader

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Why??? It's not like it can be blamed on Clinton... Or did she just have a bad argument?

You said you work in financial services, yet you actually have to ask this?

What, you sweep up the ticker-tape at the end of the day?


Pushing the entire financial/economic system of THE WORLD to the brink of catastrophe requires the actions of thousands, if not millions, of people all acting fiscally irresponsibly. There's plenty of blame to go around and pinpointing said blame on one person is shockingly preposterous.

Well, it was the Bush administration that deregulated the financial services industry, broke down the walls between banks and wall street firms. Then, they eliminated just about any oversight that the government did on those firms. They allowed leverage ratios to increase from 10 to one to 30 to one. They allowed the firms to originate loans to people that could not afford them. This was done by the Bush administration, and two of the main players in this deregulation was John McCain and Phil Gramm, who is now his chief financial advisor, and rumored to be one of McCain's top pics for Treasury Secretary if he is elected. McCain and Gramm led the repeal of the Glass-Stiegal act, which was the regulation put together after the Great Depression to protect us. Yes, it took the greed and incompetence of lots and lots and lots of Wall Street criminals to do all of the damage, but they could not have done what they did, if the Bush Administration had not restructured and deregulated the Financial Services industry, all at the behest of McCain, Gramm and other Republicans. And so yes, it does come back to Bush, but it is the stuff that McCain wants to continue. McCain, despite all his lies, is indebted to Wall Street lobbyists, and his campaign is being run by then. That should scare the hell out of any American who has any brains.

Did GW Bush make millions of people buy homes they could not afford?

Did GW Bush force financial institutions to make loans to people whom they knew couldn't pay?

Did GW Bush stimulate the economies of China, Russia, India, and Brasil allowing them to join the world economy ratcheting up demand for commodities which lead to inflation in the US?

Did GW Bush force brokerage houses and banks to hide their non-performing assets from investors, keeping their fair-value artificially inflated?

Does GW Bush use 21 million barrels of oil per day?


And, BTW, it wasn't the Bush administration that got the deregulation ball rolling; that was President Clinton:

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An agreement between the Clinton administration and congressional Republicans, reached during all-night negotiations which concluded in the early hours of October 22, sets the stage for passage of the most sweeping banking deregulation bill in American history, lifting virtually all restraints on the operation of the giant monopolies which dominate the financial system.

The proposed Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 would do away with restrictions on the integration of banking, insurance and stock trading imposed by the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933, one of the central pillars of Roosevelt's New Deal. Under the old law, banks, brokerages and insurance companies were effectively barred from entering each others' industries, and investment banking and commercial banking were separated.

The certain result of repeal of Glass-Steagall will be a wave of mergers surpassing even the colossal combinations of the past several years. The Wall Street Journal wrote, "With the stroke of the president's pen, investment firms like Merrill Lynch & Co. and banks like Bank of America Corp., are expected to be on the prowl for acquisitions." The financial press predicted that the most likely mergers would come from big banks acquiring insurance companies, with John Hancock, Prudential and The Hartford all expected to be targeted.

But, you know, don't let the facts get in the way of your partisan bickering. Carry on.