McCain's New Vice President

Ok everyone, all the cards are on the table for both candidates. It's official that Senator John McCain's running mate is Alaska Governor Sarah Palin. So there's of course tons of debate that has already surrounded this decision and many questions arisen. Did McCain only pick Palin because she's a woman and is a ploy to pull all Hilary supporters to his side? Is she really the right choice for the job? Did McCain shoot himself in the foot for harping on Obama for his lack of experience even though Palin is two years Obama's junior? Or is Palin's youth a good contrast to McCain's age? Will McCain win now because he may have overwhelming women support? Or will he not win because our countries good ol' boys will keep a woman out of office? Those are just a few questions I've already been seeing, feel free to come up with you own. Get your thoughts out on the floor.


By the way: I just noticed that the poll got cut off. Let me retype it here so you can see exactly what it says
Poll: What is the more likely reason McCain chose Palin as his Vice President
1. A political attempt to pull all of the Hilary supporters
2. Her youth and high approval rate in Alaska makes her the perfect choice to bring a younger generations view into the white house.

yea I just watched her acceptance speech ,, not impressed

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If McCain hoped to pull Clinton's women to his side he should have checked Palin's abortion right's record first. She is staunchly pro-life.

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If McCain hoped to pull Clinton's women to his side he should have checked Palin's abortion right's record first. She is staunchly pro-life.

Trust me, will be women who vote for a women for the sole fact that she's a woman. You'd be shocked at how many people DON'T pay attention to the issues. I can guarantee there will be an overwhelming amount of women that deep down their only real reason for liking Palin is "Oh wow, her parts look just like mine! Therefore I like her!"

Who?

For Gods sake John, did you change your mind about wanting to be President?

I think she's pretty good looking.

IMHO: McCain is the sacraficial lamb for the Republican party. They are fairly sure they can't win so let's show the country that the republicans are women friendly. I agree that women will vote for a woman no matter what.....I live in MN USA and we elected Jesse to office with a strong womans vote.

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Originally posted by fsujd524

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Trust me, will be women who vote for a women for the sole fact that she's a woman. You'd be shocked at how many people DON'T pay attention to the issues. I can guarantee there will be an overwhelming amount of women that deep down their only real reason for liking Palin is "Oh wow, her parts look just like mine! Therefore I like her!"

are you fucking serious?

i really love how youre speaking for women as a whole, especially since youre NOT one. i would NEVER vote on someone just because she was a woman.


however shocking it may be for you, a vagina does not change the view of a person or that persons political opinions.

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Originally posted by brownell

Who?

For Gods sake John, did you change your mind about wanting to be President?

Exactly. Obama chose his running mate based on foreign policy and government experience while McCain chose a running mate based on youth and oil drilling. Palin reminds me of Dan Quail...has no clue what they're getting themselves into and is very unknown. The republican party better be ready to present the first female president if McCain gets elected because it's doubtful McCain will be around for much longer.

You need an option for BOTH.

Pros
She is female and that in many respects negates the whole "vote Obama because he is black" thing.
She has about the same experience as Obama BUT she is the VP candidate, not the Presidential candidate.
She is a MILF (Miss Alaska runner-up in 1984 and a Vogue spread in December 2007).
She has a good record on exposing corruption within her own party.
She vetoed a bill that would have blocked same-sex benefits to government employees, effectively giving them benefits.
She is well known for being independent of the oil companies.
She has a history of pushing reform through, especially ethics and "pork projects"

Cons
She does not have a lot of experience in public service.

Both?
Does not support gay marriage.
Member of NRA
Used pot when it was legal in Alaska, although still illegal under US law


I think in the end it is a good choice. McCain can still attack Obama for his lack of experience as the VP is expected to usually be lesser than the President. Her being a woman can be beneficial, but she is a pretty strong VP candidate even without that, although as a male it would probably have been 4 years before she was considered ready.

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are you fucking serious?

i really love how youre speaking for women as a whole, especially since youre NOT one. i would NEVER vote on someone just because she was a woman.


however shocking it may be for you, a vagina does not change the view of a person or that persons political views.

Please point out where in my statement where I spoke for ALL women. I simply stated that there will be women who vote for her just because she's a woman. Saying the word woman can mean one woman or a million women. I never once insinuated that I was speaking for the entire sex. It's a simple fact, just like it's a fact that there will be black people who vote for Obama just because he's a black man and white people who vote for McCain because he's a white man. It's unfortunately how a portion of our country feels. So get of your high horse and reread my statement.

youre fun to fuck with, keep up the good work.





but seriously, it seems like youre saying given the option between an ignorant woman and a qualified man that there would be an overwhelming amount of women who would vote for the woman simply because shes got a vagina. i think thats a shockingly naive assumption.





o, and i never get off my high horse.

"Or will he not win because our countries good ol' boys will keep a woman out of office?"

Well if you think this way then are the good ol’ boys ready for a black president? I am just sick and tired the way politics works. I don’t even think I'll vote this time around. The choices aren’t very good. They all lie. Lets just see how many promises they can keep. People forget that unless the senate and congress are on their side they wont be able to achieve shit. Health care? I believe that if Hillary and Bill couldn’t get it done I don’t think Obama will either. And I didn’t vote for Bill. Hey I know lets support a write in candidate. Kwame Kilpatrick.

She's hot, my penis wants to vote for her.

Political partisanship aside.

MOST of Americans complain about:

"the same politics as usual"

"good old boys network"

"we need a "change" in politics"

You all know I could go on and on. McCain at least has made a big step to try to satisfy this cry from Americans. Its too soon for anyone to say if it was the right choice. He could have picked "a safe choice" Mitt Romney as expected. He didn't. HE TOOK A CHANCE. Right or wrong, I admire his effort to change the way things are running in Washington.

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youre fun to fuck with, keep up the good work.





but seriously, it seems like youre saying given the option between an ignorant woman and a qualified man that there would be an overwhelming amount of women who would vote for the woman simply because shes got a vagina. i think thats a shockingly naive assumption.





o, and i never get off my high horse.

I highly doubt you were fucking with me. I'm sure that since you can't point out exactly where I said ALL women think that way you chose to say you were joking. I'm all about going back and forth and having fun with people but in order to do that we all need to be honest if we jumped the gun a little. As far as what it "seems" like what I'm saying, there's nothing I can do about that because you apparently already made up your mind about how I think. But for shits and giggles I'll go ahead and say it AGAIN. I never once insinuated that an overwhelming amount of women think that way NOR did I ever say that she's ignorant and the other male candidates are competent. AGAIN I'd love for you to point out exactly where I said those things and where I insinuated them because I'd love to retract them seeing how it's NOT how I feel in the slightest.

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Originally posted by FeFeHumHum

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are you fucking serious?

i really love how youre speaking for women as a whole, especially since youre NOT one. i would NEVER vote on someone just because she was a woman.


however shocking it may be for you, a vagina does not change the view of a person or that persons political opinions.

That's the sexiest opinion I've ever read

seriousness aside,,,, McCain does have good taste in ladies,,, lol

I've never heard of her, but it sounds to me like the republicans are definitely trying to throw a curve ball at the democrats with a woman as the VP candidate, should make for some interesting political advertisements in the near future...