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Originally posted by bustMall
Kanzen,
If I wanted to have a debate with someone who's only defense was to call names and throw insults, I'd go back to middle school.
Well when you are presented facts you deny them and call them "our facts," because it suits the narrative you have already developed and actually letting outside information in would force you to reconsider your positions. Technically I didn't call you any names, I said that your ideas were retarded but that was as far as it goes.
But then again, you call Obama a danger, but you can't actually give any reference to why he is a danger.
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Originally posted by bustmall
Believe what you will. Go back to your video games. I know that you're a reasonably intelligent person and a tech genius, but I won't do this with you.
Well when two sides can't agree on reality it doesn't really work. You want to redefine your statements afterwards in the same vein as Romney and most politicians do. "Hey that isn't what I meant when I typed out this."
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Originally posted by bustmall
So far, I've said very little of what you pin on me. So why bother? You'll hear what you want to hear.
Pin what on you exactly? I didn't say you specifically were/are racist, I stated that the position was that of tinge of racism. Stating that the reason blacks vote for Obama is because he is black. Ignoring the fact that the majority minorities have voted Democratic. But I didn't say that you were. Now how you handled the response was the typical, almost comical way that racists deal with being called racists. "I have black friends." Sure you can't actually provide any real information or sources. But just saying it makes it right, right?
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Originally posted by bustedwall
But let me share a recent story.
I needed some laborers. I called a company to ask if they had any. Described the work needed. they said "Sure, we can have two guys there tonight".
We all arrive. The two guys ask about the work, we describe it and the one goes all ape-shit, and says "You mean this isn't XXX? I'm an XXX guy".
I said "I don't get it, the job is identical other than it doesn't contain XXX. What's the difference? It all pays the same."
He said "I don't care. I was trained for XXX. You need laborers. I'm not doing this." (throughout all this, every other word out of his mouth was "fuck" )
And he walked off. The other guy wanted to stay, but peer pressure got the best of him. So these two products of the Job-Training programs, looked at the work I've done all my life, fed my family with, and made a good company out of and effectively said "This shit's below me".... then went home to collect a few more of my tax dollars because there was no work available, after being "educated" in a program paid for with tax dollars.
Story is the perfect term to describe what you just said. All of that comes off as hypothetical because you can't offer any actual evidence. If anything it describe you as the one who didn't give that much specificity or the fellow that you talked to didn't either. So if anything it was a failure of communication and not the Jobs-Training. You seem to be also ignoring that they were told something different about the job and because of the mix-up have lost an opportunity to make some income. Any sane person would be livid about going to a job site and then told it wasn't the job that they were told.
I like how you ignore most of what your tax money goes to.
Twenty-one percent goes to Medicare, Medicaid, and CHIP. (But I suppose widespread health problems and disease is cool too.)
Twenty percent goes to Defense and International Security (Which Romney wants to increase.)
Twenty percent goes to Social Security (Which you will be a beneficiary of in a moment.)
Thirteen percent goes to Safety Net Programs (Welfare, Jobs training takes up about four percent of. Also returning Veterans use to get jobs.)
Seven percent goes to Federal Retirees and Veterans (of unpaid for wars).
Six percent goes to the interest on our debt.
Four percent to a combination of non specified items.
Three percent goes to Transportation and Infrastructure. (Which needs to take a chunk out of the excess Military unless you like crumbling bridges and roads. But maybe the freemarket approach will work, right?)
Two percent to Science and Medical Research.
One percent to Non-Security International. (Diplomacy.)
Now tell me that the Center on Budget and Policy, is wrong about this. But somehow your anecdotal statement has more worth and weight.
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Originally posted by bustedmall
Yeah. Go ahead. Call me whatever the hell you want. Won't change the truth. I'll keep working hard.
I'd call you delusional, because your version of "truth" only seems to come from one side. The one that always seems to fit your narrative to the "t".
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Originally posted by bustedmall
Keep paying my taxes. Keep listening to the excuses.
Wow, you have to pay taxes to keep the infrastructure of America running. Just like everyone else is. But go ahead and vote for the guy who actually went out of his way to avoid most of his. Telling us, getting tax cuts should be an incentive.
