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Originally posted by brownell
I'm not surprised that you said it isn't as much about equal treatment as it is about acceptance, but the problem is that heterosexual couples are not the "same" as a homosexual couples. It is quite obvious that men and women are designed to be with each other sexually. Beyond the sexual aspect, their bodies are obviously designed to have a different purpose in the life cycle. The human race can not exist without heterosexuals, while the human race does not "need" homosexuals. I'm not trying to be mean, but if it's "normal" to be heterosexual, then being gay is something other than "normal" That doesn't mean it's bad, it just means different. Short people certainly have obstacles in life not endured by people of average height. Did you ever tease a redhead when you were in school.... someone with freckles, curly hair maybe? What about the stigma of "bachelors" and "old maids" that never partner up or get married. Where's their tax break, who do they share insurance and death benefits with? Surely there is something "wrong" with them since they never had a partner? .... Or maybe they're just built different.
Men and women belong together because it must be that way. There is no ambiguity about why a male has a penis, where it's located, and what happens at the height of sexual arousal, just as there is no ambiguity about why a female has a vagina, where it's located, and why that thing happens every month during her sexually prime years. Gay couples can never "fit together" as heteros can. There's no denying that men and women are "supposed to" have sexual contact with each other, it's obviously "normal", and the same can not be said of gay couples.
No matter how much you want it to be, it can never be the same type of relationship that a man and a woman can have. Gay couple can never complete the most basic human instinct on their own... reproduction. At a minimum they'll still need the assistance of a 3rd party of the opposite sex (and probably a 4th party if they're monogamous) The only other option is adoption, in which case neither would a direct connection to the creation of a new life.
Re-defining marriage will not make homosexuality more acceptable, anymore than redefining "short" will make someone taller. IMO, the best any of us can do make them most of what we have, demand fair treatment, and not be concerned about what others do unless it directly impacts our lives.
I'm not gonna get into the whole argument about what is natural and what isn't with you, because I know that is an argument that neither of us will win. But you said it yourself in the last sentence you wrote....FAIR TREATMENT. It isn't illegal for the old maid, or the short person, or the girl for freckles to get married....it is for me. Hell it isn't even illegal...it just isn't...I'm just ignored like I don't exist.
@ thegame - Ok, I'll give up my right to have a parade, fly a rainbow flag and whatever. You then have to give up having a celebration for your favorite sports team in public, or protesting against something you don't believe in. Why does someone celebrating something threaten you so much? If you don't like it...then don't fucking go...how hard is that?
My own special groups and symbols...and you don't? Do you belong to a group, club, a fan of anything, have a favorite team? I see no difference.