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Consentual or Rape??

Starter: [Deleted] Posted: 19 years ago Views: 15.7K
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#2601556
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In some of the U.S. states I believe 16 is still legal.

The problem is that the girl can get pregnant (I know, Mr. States-The-Obvious). So, it's a little unfair that she can't have a relationship without the stigma related to her situation like the male can. However, a forty year old should have no business with a younger person anyway.

I'm 21 years old and I can't stand to hear the shit that comes out of a sixteen year olds mouth. They're just so immature and ignorant. Which I'll have to say there are a few who aren't so hard to literally talk to, but this has been my experience.

I really didn't think there could be such a gap between 16 and 21, but there is. However, making a law that restrains a person's freedom to choose who their sexual partner is closely borders enforcing a national religion. In both situations you're forcing a set of beliefs on someone who has been stripped of their right to choose.

The United States is becoming so hypocritical these days, and I'm afraid it's only going to get worse. I am seeing us speak the same beliefs in freedom while our representatives keep taking them away through backdoor politics, half-truths, conveniently worded laws, and not to mention the waves of misinformation being spewed during speeches.

It's not Democrats...

It's not Republicans...

It's politicians and ourselves. We are alllowing our own governments to increase THEIR pay while our minimum wage STAGNATES.

Back to the Consentual or Rape debate, everything can't be BLACK or WHITE. This isn't a cartoon from fifties. Some laws need to be taken out of the judicial system to allow lawyers, police officers, law makers, and the PEOPLE who the government is supposed to be FOR in the first place, do their jobs. Too much emphasis is being put on a single individual's shoulders when they are the ones who examine the person. The jury should be able to submit questions and there should be more than one judge in the first place. Didn't history teach us anything about giving too much power to one individual?

Let the LOVERS show their love to the court or let the court prove that it wasn't consentual and one took advantage of the other.

If we feel an official is not fit to run an office IT'S OUR JOB to impeach or otherwise FIRE them (we pay them after all).

Sorry guys, I didn't mean to get so involved in this. It just sort of took off. But the U.S. is "lawing" themselves to their own demise.
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#2601557
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In the UK sex is legal at 16. So the 16 and 40 year old relationship by law is legal here. But we all know that parents and family can pile on a HUGE amount of pressure when they want to when it comes to who you're dating.

If I were the parent in that situation, I know that to try and take away my son/daughter's right to choose would be wrong, and it would also do more damage. It would make them more likely to want to do those things just to 'get back' at me.

In the 21st Century, the most responsible thing a parent can do is to keep an open mind, and support your child's decision. Treat them like an adult and they will make adult decisions. In all likelihood, when treated this way, their relationship with the 40 year old will likely fade out quickly of its own accord, as the 16 year old realises it's perhaps not as cool as they first thought, or that their lives are going in different directions. Or maybe they think about the future with that person and it seems a bit wrinkly!

In any case, the best thing to do as a parent is simply to say 'I'll support any decision you make now, and if you ever need to talk or ask for advice, I will be here for you.'
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#2601558
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age is only a number...go for it...I would*
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#2601559
@ KGB - dont be sorry, thats why i asked....to get different points of view...allthough maybe keep it shorter and less politics

@ prowl - yeah, thats another way of seeing it too, hard to think that a 40+ dude is banging your 16 year old princess though right?
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#2601560
Lvl 11
In Ohio 16 is the age of consent. Across the board. So, as long as the younger person is 16 or over, the older person could be 80 or 90 and it would still be legal. And as for pressing charges, that's something of a misleading phrase. You can't press charges against anyone. The crime would be against the state, and the state would charge the individual for a crime. My personal opinion? While I'm sure there is the rare instance where two people with such a distinct age gap do have something in common, I would have to agree with most of the posters and say I would certainly be questioning the motives of the older person.
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#2601561
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personally i think both variations are fucked up. i wouldnt be ok with either but hey thats just me
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#2601562
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#2601563
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I think its disgusting for a 40 year old guy to sleep with a 16 year old girl.
Its creepy for a 16 year old guy to sleep with a 40 year old woman.
But either way, I really don't do the major age difference thing, its disturbing to me.

And I'm not sure if we should treat them differently. My opinion would be biased (towards punnishing the male), so I can't comment.

Because when it comes down to it I'm sexist (in the fact that I believe in Chivalry and all that)

If it were my daughter, I would inform the guy of the consequences involved in continuing the relationship (or atleast I would try, I might get too mad talking to him because of what he did to resolve it with words), and if it were my son I would inform the woman that she needs to stop.
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#2601564
Lvl 27
I don't really think that the age difference is the issue, after all if it were a 30 year old woman and a 55 year old man, would you still feel the same way or just think that the woman was a gold digger?

To me the issue is, is a sixteen year old (male or female) old enough to be in a mature sexual relationship?
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#2601565
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Originally posted by Demonicmale

To me the issue is, is a sixteen year old (male or female) old enough to be in a mature sexual relationship?


i think as much as we all thought we were back then.....looking back im sure alot of us would say, No we werent
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#2601566
Lvl 13
its all bull shit... i personaly dont see any difference between either one.
but our society latly does seem to have its head up it's arse (lol)


oh ! if you have sex at 16 with an adult , your a child.
but if you kill someone at 16 you'll be charged as and adult.

if your a girl seduced by a 40yr old , your a victim.
if your a boy seduced by a 40yr old woman > YOUR A LUCKY SON OF A B#@#tch.

16 yr olds these days know a hell of a lot more than alot of 40 yr olds. be they fem or male.
hypocrocy is all over this subject.
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#2601567
Lvl 12
If there is grass on the pitch then game on !
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#2601568
Lvl 27
Quote:
Originally posted by tanned_male

If there is grass on the pitch then game on !


and if its your 12 year old daughter that matured early, you gonna tell your buddies to come over and have a go at her
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#2601569
Lvl 13
if ur 40 and bangn a 16 yr old chick ur fuckin sad.if your 16 and bangn a (HOT) 4o yr old chick your a pimp.
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#2601570
Lvl 27
Quote:
Originally posted by DocBrewskie

if ur 40 and bangn a 16 yr old chick ur fuckin sad.if your 16 and bangn a (HOT) 4o yr old chick your a pimp.


Right or wrong that is definitly how society looks at it
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#2601571
Lvl 8
thats one way to put it

*edit - ^^ at the response to the "grass on the field comment"
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#2601572
Lvl 13
Quote:
Originally posted by Demonicmale

[reply=DocBrewskie]
if ur 40 and bangn a 16 yr old chick ur fuckin sad.if your 16 and bangn a (HOT) 4o yr old chick your a pimp.


Right or wrong that is definitly how society looks at it
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right...wtf , if u cant get a woman at 40 theres something going on.now dont get me wrong , there are crazy women out there that will warp a 16 yr olds mind adn get him to kill for her. so i guess it is best if niether happends for the protection of the child and yes at 16 ur a child.


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come on now...you know better
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#2601573
Lvl 27
@ Doc i have to agree, no matter how smart you think you are or were at 16
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#2601574
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Originally posted by DocBrewskie

if your 16 and bangn a (HOT) 4o yr old chick your a pimp.


maybe, but then she is the sad one..
and god knows what else..


the only reason why society looks at it as 'OK' for a 16 year old dude and 40 year old woman is because
we as men can not get raped by a woman, i dont think any guy says they could be raped by a woman..

maybe by a bunch of gay dudes....but not by a woman..
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#2601575
Lvl 13
Quote:
Originally posted by Latino

[reply=DocBrewskie]
if your 16 and bangn a (HOT) 4o yr old chick your a pimp.


maybe, but then she is the sad one..
and god knows what else..


the only reason why society looks at it as 'OK' for a 16 year old dude and 40 year old woman is because
we as men can not get raped by a woman, i dont think any guy says they could be raped by a woman..

maybe by a bunch of gay dudes....but not by a woman..
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i think its more of a "mental rape".when ur 16 and ur getting pussy from a hot older woman ur mind isnt your own
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