Why are america engines high on C.C and low on BHP

Great stuff, love the AC Cobra's. Had a... wont say a mate, but someone i knew building one himself. Had the 5.4Litre Jag V12 engine, which he reckoned would kick out around 400bhp.

Not sure if he ever got it finished, i must find out.

i love those cars.. I just don't know if i'd fit! :P

I don't fit in most sports cars. Even a corvette is a little small for me.

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From what I understand british roads are the best place to test handling on cars. wet winding roads... good for testing tires as well. This is just what I heard.

I think most European countries have good roads for handling. Nice and twisty. But the British country roads really are fun. Even more so on a motorbike.

yea im sorry if i got a little out of hand, i take offense pretty easily...i just dont understand why people make fun of domestics because they cant handle very well and dont realise that all the roads in canada and the us are all straight, therefore have no reason to take curves at 60+mph

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Originally posted by Watty

Great stuff, love the AC Cobra's. Had a... wont say a mate, but someone i knew building one himself. Had the 5.4Litre Jag V12 engine, which he reckoned would kick out around 400bhp.

Not sure if he ever got it finished, i must find out.

Watty spend to much time in WBW and forgets about his friends......

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Originally posted by Bigdaddydiesel

Watty spend to much time in WBW and forgets about his friends......

What IS this "FRIENDS" word you speak of?

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Originally posted by Watty

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From what I understand british roads are the best place to test handling on cars. wet winding roads... good for testing tires as well. This is just what I heard.

I think most European countries have good roads for handling. Nice and twisty. But the British country roads really are fun. Even more so on a motorbike.
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Actually the best place is the Isle of Mann.....No speed limits!!!! Main land Britain has far too many speed cameras

There are no speed limits on roads out of town there's still normal speed limits in town

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There are no speed limits on roads out of town there's still normal speed limits in town

well yeah naturally, but you wouldn't go there to drive through Douglas would you

they just are

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A $20,000 second hand C5 corvette will shit all over your little rice eater, straight line, twisties you name it!

Dont be silly, bar the new Ford GT and possibly from reports ive read the Viper, American cars just DO NOT HANDLE. And im saying that even though I love American motors.
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they handle quite well actually...if u know how to drive the god damn things, i guarantee they'll take a corner faster than any import u can name...excluding some of the eurotrash
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See how many domestics you can name that can outhandle a 12 year old Mazda RX7, or even the Miata.

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[reply=GoatMan]
[reply=Watty]
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A $20,000 second hand C5 corvette will shit all over your little rice eater, straight line, twisties you name it!

Dont be silly, bar the new Ford GT and possibly from reports ive read the Viper, American cars just DO NOT HANDLE. And im saying that even though I love American motors.
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they handle quite well actually...if u know how to drive the god damn things, i guarantee they'll take a corner faster than any import u can name...excluding some of the eurotrash
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See how many domestics you can name that can outhandle a 12 year old Mazda RX7, or even the Miata.
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just about any cadillac, corvette, some camaros/trans ams, ford gt, any saleen, viper, stealth's

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Originally posted by GoatMan

[reply=advis]
[reply=GoatMan]
[reply=Watty]
[reply=Brutus357]
A $20,000 second hand C5 corvette will shit all over your little rice eater, straight line, twisties you name it!

Dont be silly, bar the new Ford GT and possibly from reports ive read the Viper, American cars just DO NOT HANDLE. And im saying that even though I love American motors.
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they handle quite well actually...if u know how to drive the god damn things, i guarantee they'll take a corner faster than any import u can name...excluding some of the eurotrash
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See how many domestics you can name that can outhandle a 12 year old Mazda RX7, or even the Miata.
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just about any cadillac, corvette, some camaros/trans ams, ford gt, any saleen, viper, stealth's
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NO camarao comes even CLOSE. The stock skidpad on the best camaro was around .88g's, that ain't going to cut it.
Caddilac XLR is around .90g's
F-Body: .87
05/06 Ford Mustang GT: .87
The stealth (mitsu designed): .91

Those are all pretty sad, just about any import 'sports' coupe will beat those.

Now, the two cars I mentioned:

1994 Mazda RX-7: .98
1996 Mazda RX-7 RS (Spirit R, not sold in the states): 1.00
Miata: .96

Saleen Mustang: .94
Saleen S7: 1.04g
Viper: 1.02
Z06 Corvette: .98

None of the above vehicles has a MSRP of less than $50k. Compared to the MSRP of ~$30k for a late model RX7, that's over 12 years old, I'd say that is awful sad.

So, short of a car that cost twice as much as the RX7 (or more), you'll be very hard pressed to find a domestic that'll do better.

The Mazda RX-7 is an awesome car and is used by the world's leading formation power sliding team.

so your saying a rx7 will outhandle a z06 and an sts? man have u even driven either of those cars u mentioned?

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so your saying a rx7 will outhandle a z06 and an sts? man have u even driven either of those cars u mentioned?

no and neither have you!!! i draw my opinions from professionals who have driven all these cars, what do you draw yours from except a partisan belief that if it's American it has to be the best

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so your saying a rx7 will outhandle a z06 and an sts? man have u even driven either of those cars u mentioned?

no and neither have you!!! i draw my opinions from professionals who have driven all these cars, what do you draw yours from except a partisan belief that if it's American it has to be the best
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actually ive driven an sts fagbot and i can tell u very well it will outhandle those mazdas...who the fuck drives a miata that aint pure homo, oh wait i forgot im talking to you.....

belief that if its american it has to be the best? in terms of a straight line? hell yes, in terms of handling? hell no...only the expensive super cars domestically made can handle but everyone has the pratisan belief that they cant, so you...

Too bad a 12 yr old RX7 will leave oil puddles in your drive and probably been rebuilt 4 times already! Great car new, great motor but the wear and HP loss because of wear makes them sold for junk after about 7 years.
Miata???? So what road do you think a Miata will out run any V8 on? Most roads are not skid pads, acceleration is not the best.

sts fagbot!!!??? curious name!!! Anyway may i applaud you on your impecable logic

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sts fagbot!!!??? curious name!!! Anyway may i applaud you on your impecable logic

wow, just learning how to read are we?