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The title of the last PM I got.

"Your Up Loads"

Not sure if typo or gay PM

It's both.

Also, The Walking Dead is terrible. I used to enjoy the comic, then that turned to shit. And after season one of the season it turned to shit.

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Yeah...not gonna watch over an hour of videos just to reply to your post.

I agree that season 2 (most of the stuff around the farm was awful) was a low point for The Walking Dead, but I think they've picked up their game since then. There were a few more week points with the prison storyline, and I've been saying for some time that they needed to change the scenery and leave the prison, which it looks like they are now going to do.

All that said though...I think its a well done show, especially considering they're working with a television budget.

Nope, still shit.

I bet you don't even watch it.

Lot of redheads on Game of Thrones, now that I think about it.

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Lot of redheads on Game of Thrones, now that I think about it.

Yep...I knew it.

Hey now, that's just a factual statement. Ros, Sansa, Ygritte. Which seems like a good amount for a major TV show, as redheads are kind of rare IRL, you know?

So, plowing snow in November, now I get to go cleanup more leaves in December...

Go home mother nature, you're drunk.

I'm just going eat chocolate. That sounds better than snow or leaves.

Much better in fact.

There are lulls in every season of Walking Dead but the show can't just be a bunch of people shooting zombies. Then it would be just like every crappy zombie movie ever made. I also dig the fact that they're leaving the prison and (sort of) getting split into groups. I don't get why people just blindly follow the governor and do whatever he says. Also, how come that guy keeps getting laid? Do chicks dig eye patches? Also, how come even the children can dead eye a zombie with a rifle from 100 yards but when they're shooting at living people they turn into some combination of storm troopers and A-team villains? Hopefully these questions get answered in the second half of the season. (probably not). Maybe they can kill off Carl and then I'll be happy.

Not just lulls in every season, in every fucking episode. A lot of episodes are just poorly paced filler, where they use one of the laziest methods every to waste time. They break everyone into groups to repeat their stances over and over and over. The show doesn't even follow a consistent logic of the world and the characters themselves don't act logical. They act like they drink paint during the night. Even the stand-in character, Dale, starts to get dumber and dumber as time goes on. Zombies only appear as plot devices half the time, and even then break world logic.

But then again, if you have logical characters acting intelligently, getting along, understanding the welfare of the group. Suddenly you don't have drama to pad out the show's time. That means there would have to be story arcs and progression which they can't do on a shoestring budget. You can't have as many scenes and different areas and set pieces. Yeah the comic has drama too, but isn't as dragged out or at least the perception of time isn't as dragged out.

In the comic, when Carl gets shot in the head. A third of his head comes off, but he still survives. At which point I just gave up on the comic.

Also, INFINITE AMMO SHOTGUN HERSHEL MUTHA-FUCKAS.

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Not just lulls in every season, in every fucking episode. A lot of episodes are just poorly paced filler, where they use one of the laziest methods every to waste time. They break everyone into groups to repeat their stances over and over and over. The show doesn't even follow a consistent logic of the world and the characters themselves don't act logical. They act like they drink paint during the night. Even the stand-in character, Dale, starts to get dumber and dumber as time goes on. Zombies only appear as plot devices half the time, and even then break world logic.

But then again, if you have logical characters acting intelligently, getting along, understanding the welfare of the group. Suddenly you don't have drama to pad out the show's time. That means there would have to be story arcs and progression which they can't do on a shoestring budget. You can't have as many scenes and different areas and set pieces. Yeah the comic has drama too, but isn't as dragged out or at least the perception of time isn't as dragged out.

In the comic, when Carl gets shot in the head. A third of his head comes off, but he still survives. At which point I just gave up on the comic.

Also, INFINITE AMMO SHOTGUN HERSHEL MUTHA-FUCKAS.

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Name one movie, tv show, book, comic, web series, short story, or graphic novel that doesn't have a lull in the action. Without lulls in the action there would be no character development, and no dialogue other than "shoot him in the head", "I need more ammo", Arrrrrrghhhhhh, he's chewing on my leg". You have to have drama, thats what makes you interested in the characters. You have to have breaks, you have to have characters break off into smaller groups or solo so you can get to know them and their personalities. A story with non stop action would be very cool for about 30 minutes and then get old really fast.

Also....Dale hasn't been in a episode for about 2 seasons now.

Also...I'm playing hooky from school today...I didn't feel like a 2 hour commute in 20 cm of snow and blizzard conditions.

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Name one movie, tv show, book, comic, web series, short story, or graphic novel that doesn't have a lull in the action.

Not just a lull in action, but in character development, and progress. Yeah there are to be lulls, but it shouldn't happen three or four times during a single episode.

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Without lulls in the action there would be no character development, and no dialogue other than "shoot him in the head", "I need more ammo", Arrrrrrghhhhhh, he's chewing on my leg".

Except the show has no actual character development. All of it is superficial bullshit, nothing outside of character death has any weight in the show. All they do is repeat the same shit over and over. And no, there can be plenty of character development without drama. You can have a group of survivors making their way through an infested town, discussing their pasts and things in life and still keep it interesting without trying to clashing them together.

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You have to have drama, thats what makes you interested in the characters. You have to have breaks, you have to have characters break off into smaller groups or solo so you can get to know them and their personalities.

Except they aren't interesting, they are barely two-dimensional. And whenever they are broken into groups all they do is repeat the same things over and over. They aren't even consistent in their own personalities. There are no character arcs, the only one who got one was Hershel and that was about it. No growth whatsoever.

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A story with non stop action would be very cool for about 30 minutes and then get old really fast.

Not really, if you keep the set pieces fresh and changing. You switch dynamics of the situation. You make outsiders and walkers a vague and omnipresent threat you can keep a showing interesting. You keep tension relatively consistent and kill off characters out of order. It worked for the comics in the beginning when they were still good. This show isn't about the aftermath of a Zombie outbreak. It is about people being shitty towards each other with an occasional zombie popping up.

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Also....Dale hasn't been in a episode for about 2 seasons now.

Doesn't change the fact that the characters are getting dumber and dumber.

Once Frank Darabont left, that was pretty much it for the show. The original creator Kirkman is only there to keep his baby alive, his zombie baby alive. AMC is gonna continue to milk this shit. If the The Walking Dead by Telltale games can make an engaging story, why can't Mazzara?

Why can't the show follow any consistent world logic either?

A TWO HOUR COMMUTE ? In Los Angeles that might be normal, but in cowboy Canada....are you kidding ?

P.S. like the new avvy. (Shiver !)

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Also...I'm playing hooky from school today...I didn't feel like a 2 hour commute in 20 cm of snow and blizzard conditions.

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Not really, if you keep the set pieces fresh and changing. You switch dynamics of the situation. You make outsiders and walkers a vague and omnipresent threat you can keep a showing interesting. You keep tension relatively consistent and kill off characters out of order. It worked for the comics in the beginning when they were still good. This show isn't about the aftermath of a Zombie outbreak. It is about people being shitty towards each other with an occasional zombie popping up.

You kind of contradicted yourself in this statement. On one hand you say that you need to keep outsiders and walkers a vague yet omnipresent threat and that will make it interesting. And then on the other hand you suggest the reason you think the show is crap is because the show focuses on people being shitty towards each other, with only the occasional zombie popping up.

For the most part, they have kept the zombies and outsiders a vague yet omnipresent threat. The zombies haven't really been the major threat in the last season and half as they've had relative safety within the confines of the prison...hell, they even started farming and raising animals. There have been conflicts with outsider groups, but with the exception of a clash here and there, they haven't been present in the majority of episodes. So I completely disagree with your statement about it not being about the aftermath of a zombie outbreak....its that, plus about trying to survive a zombie outbreak.

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Except the show has no actual character development. All of it is superficial bullshit, nothing outside of character death has any weight in the show. All they do is repeat the same shit over and over. And no, there can be plenty of character development without drama. You can have a group of survivors making their way through an infested town, discussing their pasts and things in life and still keep it interesting without trying to clashing them together.

And what you suggest wouldn't be repeating the same thing over and over? You'd have them doing the same thing every episode.

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A TWO HOUR COMMUTE ? In Los Angeles that might be normal, but in cowboy Canada....are you kidding ?

P.S. like the new avvy. (Shiver !)

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Because of the snow. Normally my commute is about 45 min.

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You kind of contradicted yourself in this statement. On one hand you say that you need to keep outsiders and walkers a vague yet omnipresent threat and that will make it interesting. And then on the other hand you suggest the reason you think the show is crap is because the show focuses on people being shitty towards each other, with only the occasional zombie popping up.

That doesn't contradict in the slightest. Omnipresent threat means Zombies are everywhere, they are constantly encountered and so are outsiders. You make it 80% of them dealing with the outside threats and just trying to survive. The other 20% of the time they can have their downtime to flesh out relationships. Not the inverse, which is what the show does. Magic Zombies only show up for plot connivence.

Why do I call them magic? Because they appear out of thin air, without alerting people, and act in non-Zombie ways. They only show up like say the zombie in the well, to kill time. How fucking stupid would a person have to be to think that water that has had a zombie decomposing in it for months is drinkable? Then they bicker about shooting it in the head because it would "contaminate" the water. Fucking really?

Or the zombie showing up in the drugstore despite the fact it should of alerted Glen and Maggie to it's presence long before they were in the center of the store. Nope, just comes out of nowhere. That isn't an omnipresent danger, that is an rarity danger.

How do you make zombies and outsiders an omnipresent danger? You make them tougher to deal with, you get rid of the infinite ammo bullshit like the gun training bullshit. You don't have people head-shoting every zombie almost effortlessly. You make a single zombie a danger by showing them taking out a capable person just because they were careless or cocky. You make outsiders a threat by making them intelligent and dangerous. They aren't dumbasses who jump from roof tops onto spiked fences like dumbasses.

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For the most part, they have kept the zombies and outsiders a vague yet omnipresent threat. The zombies haven't really been the major threat in the last season and half

Now that is a contradiction. If there isn't a constant zombie presence, only an occasional brush with an issue.

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as they've had relative safety within the confines of the prison...hell, they even started farming and raising animals.

Again, then it isn't an omnipresent threat. In the comics the prison area was one of the most boring parts outside of two issues. The two girls getting cannibalized and raped and then the assault on the prison by the town and the Governor. The Governor who was and still is one of the dumbest, overly cartoonish villains in the show. They don't make him believable or even remotely relatable. He is a cartoon villain.

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There have been conflicts with outsider groups, but with the exception of a clash here and there, they haven't been present in the majority of episodes. So I completely disagree with your statement about it not being about the aftermath of a zombie outbreak....its that, plus about trying to survive a zombie outbreak.

Except the aftermath is glossed over for drama. Instead of being methodical and showing them planning out and how things are actually handled. You have them build bonds as characters with actual character growth. Meaning people learn to see new sides of issues that they were affirmed to. Then when an actual, logical betrayal or issue arrives it actually has some meaning and actual consequences. It isn't glossed over bullshit like when Daryl gets shot in the head by Andrea.

Unless they stopped that shit when I stopped caring about the show and just became angry (early season 3, everything else I know comes from the original comic.)