WTF happened to this site?

WTF happened to this site? Seriously. Enough blood has been spilled over the shitty new layout. I'm not going to get into that in this thread. My problem is this: WBW used to be one of the most unique communities on the internet. There was intelligent discussion interspersed with the excellent rare amatuer porn, spam and Does your penis have a nickname? threads. Now it's just SPAM, Does your penis have a nickname? threads, BORING pro-pro/am porn that can be found anywhere, and complaint threads like this one. Although to be fair most of the complaint threads have to do with everyone claiming that any and all porn is underaged material. (shakes head)

Do you really know What Boys Want? They want the REAL WBW back.

we always want to maintain the quality of threads that are here on WBW

members just wont start threads like they used to in the lounge and other places. we try to make serious threads and the members wont participate because so many are just here for the porn.

youre complaining about that thread, which is more for laughs than anything else. we have found that THOSE threads actually gets posts, so for laughs they are made sometimes. what would YOU do in the same situation?

i encourage all mods in non babe forums to make threads on a regular basis in their sub forums to promote activity and new discussion

but threads should be made by the members too, and we would love for that to be the case as much as it used to be.


how many threads have you made?

its not as easy as saying youll do so, really.

I make threads, but barely anyone posts in them.

I take it your penis doesn't have a nickname?

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Originally posted by Honda_X

I take it your penis doesn't have a nickname?

I named mine walrus. That is due to the fact of its tumor.

I tend to generally agree with the OP's sentiment, and while I'm not entirely sure why WBW has evolved into what it is today, I think a number of things may have contributed to it, such as the auto-locking of old topics, removal of spam threads, and general moving on of old members who were big-time participants.

I'm not sure, however, that there is really any answer to this question, other than that's the way things evolve sometimes.


Someone tell Jack to log reply to this topic. I'm sure he'd have an opinion, since he's the type of contributor that I'm talking about.

veru true. lot of old-school members aren't starting new threads like they used to.

unfortunately.

Things change and evolve. Sometimes for the better or worse depending on a persons viewpoint. Such is life.

I just can't take this kinda shit seriously, does anyone have idea who in the fuck this guy is? Does he post anywhere really, or make threads? At least we try to keep the forums active, and instead of this guy thinking to himself "how can I make this site better" he makes a thread bitching about it..good fucking plan. You aren't part of the solution, you're a lurker..almost all the members who used to make worthwhile posts are lurkers now too it seems, or they're just fucking gone, and the non-porn part of the forum stays dead. Whenever we make threads, serious threads that are interesting and engaging..they sit there because nobody can be half fucked to come up with a well though out response. Im pretty sure people rarely even read the first post anymore..they just read the thread title and make some incoherent bullshit useless post that is meant to be funny, but only they really get...so we stopped really making threads like that, and make easy 1 line answer threads, so a few people can be bothered to type out a few lines. If you want to be part of the solution, have at it..sit down think out some shit and make an interesting cool thread, I guarantee i'll post in it..I like the activity in the lounge and other non-porn parts of the forum...The non porn community on this site is getting fewer and fewer no matter how hard we try to keep the threads coming, very few people read them or respond..so we make easy threads, for a laugh or to at least get a couple of posts...what have you done to fix things? Nothing.. Like I said, you are not part of the solution by bitching about things, it's great to see you're a sponsor member..but other than that you're a lurker..so come on, make a cool tread..im sure we'd all like to post in it..

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Originally posted by Honda_X

I just can't take this kinda shit seriously, does anyone have idea who in the fuck this guy is? Does he post anywhere really, or make threads? At least we try to keep the forums active, and instead of this guy thinking to himself "how can I make this site better" he makes a thread bitching about it..good fucking plan. You aren't part of the solution, you're a lurker..almost all the members who used to make worthwhile posts are lurkers now too it seems, or they're just fucking gone, and the non-porn part of the forum stays dead. Whenever we make threads, serious threads that are interesting and engaging..they sit there because nobody can be half fucked to come up with a well though out response. Im pretty sure people rarely even read the first post anymore..they just read the thread title and make some incoherent bullshit useless post that is meant to be funny, but only they really get...so we stopped really making threads like that, and make easy 1 line answer threads, so a few people can be bothered to type out a few lines. If you want to be part of the solution, have at it..sit down think out some shit and make an interesting cool thread, I guarantee i'll post in it..I like the activity in the lounge and other non-porn parts of the forum...The non porn community on this site is getting fewer and fewer no matter how hard we try to keep the threads coming, very few people read them or respond..so we make easy threads, for a laugh or to at least get a couple of posts...what have you done to fix things? Nothing.. Like I said, you are not part of the solution by bitching about things, it's great to see you're a sponsor member..but other than that you're a lurker..so come on, make a cool tread..im sure we'd all like to post in it..

thats a lot of words, but from what i read, good points...

woah, Honda is Jeff ?




:: goes and starts a thread about alleged spoofs at the lounge ::

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Originally posted by Punly

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thats a lot of words

Yeah, I got carried away...

I just made a Roomba thread in the lounge. It is the sex.

also. In order for this site to be "better" the members need to be active and to make threads and decent comments instead
of all the smiley bullshit you see literally Everywhere now. When I joined this site I originally was for the porn yes. When time went by I then lost interest in the porn that much and actually engaged in conversations in the lounge.

The members have to contribute as well to make this site work. Sites go down the drain because the members don't contribute or they just lurk and make stupid comments just to get their post count up or just make threads that bitch
without the OP actually trying out new things.

You are not helping by bitching about the problem. Become a solution.

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Originally posted by EricLindros

Someone tell Jack to log reply to this topic. I'm sure he'd have an opinion, since he's the type of contributor that I'm talking about.

Alright. First and foremost this is obviously a spoof account - and I'm not using my main account for reasons I really don't want to get into right now, so you'll have to bear with me.

I'm far from an expert on how to run a forum - but there are a few things that I do know are killing WBW as far as being a community - so take my advice or not.. Its up to the people that matter to decide.

For those that don't know me, or don't give a shit - a little background: I run a forum myself, and have for a long, long time. Years, in fact. My current forum isnt as old as some that I've run in the past - and is constantly growing everyday. I have one of the most loyal user bases to the forum that you'll ever find - and both I and they know the reasons for that. Though my forum has a very, very small fraction of the number of members this site deals with every day - most days (specifically the last few weeks in a row) our forum activity has been many times higher than WBW's non-porn based community sections. Like I said, there are many reasons for this - and I'll give you the ones I know - I guess listed from what I deem most important to least.

1. Diz - buddy, I think you are a great dude.. But the "wizard behind the curtain" bullshit plays out very fast, and you've not only lost touch with your community - but have made it obvious you don't care about the people populating your online habitat that you've created. Moreso with money involved - this is a huge no-no. I understand from what you and your crew have said that you are better with code than with people. Alright, thats fine - but there is no reason you cant take 10 minutes out of your busy coding day to hit up a few threads in the recent posts menu and post a few times every 24 hours. The people paying your wages are well aware that you don't give a shit about the community portion of your site - and this is not going to fly forever. I've been a sponsor for a long time (with my main account), and its hard for me to admit sometimes that I'm contributing to a forum where the owner not only has a staff of a dozen invisible "coders" (that we have yet to see any production from) but the owner himself is too busy to stop by once every few days to post something in a thread.

Do you have any idea how good it makes people feel when the owner of a site this big not only notices their thread, but takes the time to post in it? Thats huge, dude. Stop hiding and acting like you have no idea whats going on. And if you don't - try getting to know your community again. You've lost touch, dude. And the only place to go from here is down.

2. Diz - Clean up your relationship with your crew. These people are the most important members of your site. Without them, this forum is nothing - no matter how much money you throw at it. They need to know that they matter, and they need to be told regularly, like it or not. No one wants to work for nothing for someone that doesnt appreciate them. I don't know what goes on behind the scenes, but the overall impression that I get is "Diz has a bunch of faceless dutchies getting paid mucho dinero to go on vacations, while no one even talks to him that works for free." Truth hurts, my friend. These people can make or break you.

I do have to take a second to thank and applaud fefe for cleaning up the crew in general. You got rid of the power tripping fuckheads that ruined the community for alot of us - and had you not done this and balanced out the crew with good people.. that would have been my next point.

3. Create. You always have to be creating. Create, create, create. If nothing is happening - MAKE something happen. If you are diz or a crew member and nothing is going on, make something happen. Start a contest for a small prize... Create a crew spoof that turns every subforum into something crazy for a few hours, then change it back. Make people feel like they are missing something if they dont come back regularly. But most of all - stop things from becoming stale. As a community creator - your mind always has to be going on to the next idea. Its alot of creative work to keep a community fresh. Sit down for an hour once a month and write down a few contest or topic ideas, and pass them out to your crew along with what you need them to do. I'm sure they'll get it done, and be happy to have been asked by you to accomplish it. This goes back to the man behind the curtain bullshit, I suppose.

New stuff has to be happening semi-regularly, and im not talking about "Versions" of the site. Concentrate on revitalizing your community and stop worrying about adding sparkles to it. (No offense, sparkles)

Stuff like letting fefe add new emoticons (small stuff, but new stuff) goes a long way. People have been having alot of fun with those, and they have nothing to do with anything but a small addition to the site. Things like that.

4. The community is dead. Thats the cold, hard truth. The old community structure that I loved (people respected demigods, old timers were listened to and things like that - people strived to become a demigod) is kaput, and that has to be rebuilt. This is the toughest thing to do - and to keep contributing members around - they have to know that they matter.

A few suggestions would be to have the crew focus on threads that are made that arent "name your dick" threads (I.E. quality threads) and through their serious and contributing posting - expand those threads out a few pages and let the contributer know that they posted a quality thread. People want to know that their shot into the dark creatively is appreciated and something they should try again. Dunno if this suggestion makes sense, but I know what i'm trying to get across.

If someone makes a shit thread (anything by "mal", for example) - they should be told why its shit and how they could improve next time along with the usual flaming (hey, flaming is needed, trust me) Mal's latest thread is a great example of how this can work. I was happy to see you guys pound him into oblivion, to be honest. Between he and Robodick, you get buried in bullshit.

Figure out how to make people feel that this is "their" internet home again, and you'll be on your way to rebuilding the community that brought most of us here anyway.

5. I would post something here about the members who try to be the "OMG NUMBER 1 FORUM PIMP LOOK AT MY POINTS" but for some reason certain crew members actually see these repost spewing dipshits as "needed contributers" while people that bring quality posts to the forum do not receive the same "mod protection" from trolls and the like. Whatever shall be, shall be I suppose.

Anyway, sorry for jeffing out there. For those of you that read and take to heart what I said - thank you. For those of you who think I have no idea what I'm talking about - there is a reason you are the one surfing a forum, and people like me are the ones running them

Good luck, WBW. It would be a shame to see you keep sliding down the hill to complete porn posting without a community.

thanks for your input jack ....

I can't tell if that was sarcastic or not - and I guess it doesn't matter.. I've tried before to give helpful advice or suggestions.. but the people who need to heed it are the ones that ignore it.

In the end, thats not my problem

it was a well ment thank you no sarcasm there

I started out my "forum" life at WBW. The community and people are what brought me back day after day - even caused me to want to start my own.

I've never wanted to see this one die - and it looks like its on its last legs. Sure, the porn sections will always be booming - but people like me supported the site with sponsorships and rarely checked out the porn at all.

Its that kind of allegiance to the site that I'd like to see people have again - through whatever means needed. Its a shame to see the lounge dead for more than hours at times with not so much as a spam post.

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Originally posted by Honda_X

I take it your penis doesn't have a nickname?

heh i nicknamed my cock Wrath