WTF!! Really America?!?!

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Originally posted by mrdorkbutt

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Well, it was the Patriot Act and the illegal wiretapping program through NSA. Monitoring phone calls and emails...recordings who to who and for how long in databases...then all of the relaxed rules on searches, etc, in the Patriot Act. For example, Section 215 modified the rules on records searches. Post-Patriot Act, third-party holders of your financial, library, travel, video rental, phone, medical, church, synagogue, and mosque records can be searched without your knowledge or consent, providing the government says it's trying to protect against terrorism. Before the Patriot Act acquiring this sort of info required at least a warrant and probable cause. After the Patriot Act, they could just claim it was in the interests of National Security.

illegal wiretapping you say? You mean they were doing it before the Patriot Act made it legal? *GASP*

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Originally posted by TataConnoisseur

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Brilliant retort. My vote goes to you for your consistency.

Well if you liked it the first two times, this time should just about bring you to a climax.

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Originally posted by J-Swiss

Don't be offended Brownell I didn't mean you personally. I know there are informed people who hate him for political reasons I just meant the vast majority doesn't even know why they hate him and when asked they give an answer that generally has already been proven wrong.

Same with GWB. Most people don't know why they hate him. They say "oh he started the war in Iraq" but that's ignorant because he didn't start it alone. A lot of people just hate him just because he couldn't make it through a speech without flubbing the entire thing and makin us all look like dumb rednecks but know very little about him politically.

I'm talking about the average majority in this country, not anybody with any intelligence.

The average American hates Obama because they/we don't appreciate the gubbermint sticking their god damned noses in our business. The average American doesn't like Obama because they have come to realize he is a crooked sneaky lying Chicago thug politician. You may think the average American is stupid. That is typical elitist liberal thinking. You are not any better or more aware than the rest of America. I laugh that you think you are somehow on a higher level of intellect than the the rest of us.

I'm going to move in with Honda in Canada.

From what I can tell, he and his country are awesome.

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Originally posted by hadenough

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The average American hates Obama because they/we don't appreciate the gubbermint sticking their god damned noses in our business. The average American doesn't like Obama because they have come to realize he is a crooked sneaky lying Chicago thug politician. You may think the average American is stupid. That is typical elitist liberal thinking. You are not any better or more aware than the rest of America. I laugh that you think you are somehow on a higher level of intellect than the the rest of us.

Yea, J-Swiss, you elitist fuck. why didn't you drop out of high school and move into a trailer with the rest of the haters? No, you had to move onto community college and now here you are defending that islamic terrorist child pornography of a president we have. You know, I got an email forward that said in the 1990's he never rewinded his video tapes before he returned them that unAmerican fuck. Now stop defending that darky!!

Gasp, I say. GASP.

(posts like those make me appreciate Brownel and Rainbow. At least they aren't dumb asses. They are wrong, but they aren't dumb asses :-)

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Originally posted by hadenough

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The average American hates Obama because they/we don't appreciate the gubbermint sticking their god damned noses in our business. The average American doesn't like Obama because they have come to realize he is a crooked sneaky lying Chicago thug politician. You may think the average American is stupid. That is typical elitist liberal thinking. You are not any better or more aware than the rest of America. I laugh that you think you are somehow on a higher level of intellect than the the rest of us.

I don't know what country you've been livin in but I'm 27 and for as long as I can remember the cops have acted more like gestapo then police. I've been harassed by them. Borderline stalked. Illegally searched/questioned. I've been arrested on "disorderly conduct" charges more then once by the same cop simply because he didn't like me and this is all while I was still a kid. For my entire 27 years in this country the government has done absolutely nothing but stick it's nose in my business, attempted to tax me out of smoking (which supposedly is still legal here), and generally control every aspect of my life they possibly can.

Now people want to be outraged because Obama's in there? Shit people where's the outrage been for the past 20 years or so when the justice system has failed repeatedly and put innocent people in prisons and let murderers go free. Where was the outrage when the government passed The Patriot Act which is nothing more then the biggest slap in the face to the Constitution and Bill of Rights that has ever come down from capital hill? C'mon people, you have got to see your own hypocrisy here.

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Originally posted by hadenough

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You may think the average American is stupid. That is typical elitist liberal thinking. You are not any better or more aware than the rest of America. I laugh that you think you are somehow on a higher level of intellect than the the rest of us.

In America most people care more about what Paris Hlton wore to the latest award show then they do anything else. We live in a country where TMZ gets better ratings then Presidential speeches. If you truly believe most of the country isn't stupid and preoccupied with worshiping celebrities and ignoring facts then it's obvious what side of the fence you fall on.

Oh and I'm not an elitist liberal or a liberal for that matter. I'm completely independent and unswayed or phased by either of the incredibly selfish controlling "parties" we have in this country. I hate democrats and republicans equally, you both have destroyed this country by being totally unable to compromise or work together at all and mostly due to petty bullshit. For someone who has so much faith in America's intelligence why would you bitch about Obama? He won the Presidency by the first landslide in my lifetime which is a pretty clear statement from the American people. So if Americans are so smart then why wouldn't you trust their obvious choice for the President? oh yeah, because you're full of shit.

and yet here in PA it's 100% legal to ride a motorcycle with no helmet.

I think Amercians just need to complain about something. even if it's complaining about people complaining. hey it's something right?

that said, I don't like your poll choices. :p

Don't miss the bigger picture here: America ain't free any more.

People are so controlled they accept riding bikes with helmets as "normal and safe", injecting their kids with shots that contain more that can harm them than save them (i.e. mercury) and we drink tap water containing over 200 random chemical traces including Fluorine (Fluoride) which is used in rat poison.

Think 1984 + Brave New World and welcome to the New World Order.

So, am I surprised that the sheeple have gone after Obama for something as inane as wearing a helmet on a bicycle, something that I myself have never done and never will? No, it just shows how well "trained" the masses are -- they even criticize their handlers when they don't fit into the mold of submission, because they don't know any better.

I enjoyed the posts from hadenough, dysart and bargerer. I also agree with what they say. As far as wearing a helmet on a bicycle, who gives a crap? What happened to "right to choose" especially in such a personal matter?

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Originally posted by mrdorkbutt

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Yea, J-Swiss, you elitist fuck. why didn't you drop out of high school and move into a trailer with the rest of the haters? No, you had to move onto community college

Umm, I think you just proved his point. Sounds to me like you think this guy (hadenough) lives in a trailer, didn't go to college and is a hater simply because his opinion differs from yours. That would be a form of elitism.

As for the actual topic of the thread, I have yet to see or hear a single news story about the helmetless Obama.

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Originally posted by Honda_X

I'm going to move in with Honda in Canada.

From what I can tell, he and his country are awesome.

Maybe I could move in with Honda and become his guardian.

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Originally posted by Honda_X

I'm going to move in with Honda in Canada.

From what I can tell, he and his country are awesome.

I've heard the country is awesome.

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Originally posted by hornithologist

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Umm, I think you just proved his point. Sounds to me like you think this guy (hadenough) lives in a trailer, didn't go to college and is a hater simply because his opinion differs from yours. That would be a form of elitism.

And you sir, get sarcasm.

Personally, I'm still...........waiting for President Obama's REAL Birth Certificate...Live Birth Cert. nonsense is just that ---nonsense.
Health Care Overhaul will never come to fruition in the US. Health Care Reform...yes......
1. Tort Reform
2. Curtail benefits for Illegal Aliens.
3. End the collusion between Big Pharma Companies.

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Originally posted by WindyM

...Maybe I could move in with Honda and become his guardian.

The more the merrier he always says. That Honda...he's so gosh darn fantastic.

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Originally posted by webbie1

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I've heard the country is awesome.

Hey, there's no shame in only being half right.

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Originally posted by rikko

Personally, I'm still...........waiting for President Obama's REAL Birth Certificate...Live Birth Cert. nonsense is just that ---nonsense.
Health Care Overhaul will never come to fruition in the US. Health Care Reform...yes......

Does it really, REAAAAAAAAAAAAAALY matter that much where he was born? He was elected by the American public..doesn't that mean anything? He's grew up in America, he was schooled in America..he's fucking American. I don't know, I just don't see why people stress over the birth thing so damn much.


Also, at the original topic, that is fucking stupid. An adult shouldn't have to wear a helmet to ride a bicycle, that is bullshit. I mean, like people said, if your racing in a championship, or like, one of those BMX kids who are frequently upside down..I can see wearing a helmet, but just your average bike ride, a helmet isn't necessary.

I think the media outlets just say "Obama" hoping people will watch their boring bullshit news, don't, because it's boring, and mostly stupid bullshit. Also, it's "wore"..not.."whore" that was amusing though.

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Originally posted by snoopy7666

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You have a valid point about those commie looney-tunes waiting in th' wings...I'm not too worried about what's liable to happen if some bad fate should befall our little muslim-sympathizing socialist prez...I've been too concerned of late about what's happening with him IN the Oval Office...
McCain was far from being my preference for our next national leader, but I never trusted the silver-tongued neophyte from Chicago, and I could not sleep at night if I had to constantly remind myself that I had actually voted for him...I have enough trouble sleeping because of the things he's done, what he's doing, and (God forbid!) what he wants to do...
My fondest wish is that he is a one-termer...and that sanity and a balance of the two parties is restored to Washington in the next two election cycles...He liked to talk about HOPE and CHANGE... Now just seven months on the job, and a majority of American voters say they HOPE for a CHANGE in 2010 and 2012. Of course, if the Aztecs were right, we have little to worry about...because the curtain is coming down on 12/21/2012...But nobody really believes THAT...right?

Couldnt agree more! And yep the Calendar is ending

Woooow...shit happens I guess. GM isn't falling apart anymore and Obama isn't hemorrhaging money into an Iraq war...not much for the media to complain about.

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Originally posted by Howlett

Woooow...shit happens I guess. GM isn't falling apart anymore and Obama isn't hemorrhaging money into an Iraq war...not much for the media to complain about.

...GM isn't falling apart anymore because they totally wasted the place. It is now Government owned and worth less than the day the government took it over. Obama is still hemorrhaging money into Iraq and as a matter of fact increased tensions in Afghanistan. The reason you think Iraq is over is that the socialist media has been instructed to lay off news coverage of Iraq and Afghanistan by our government goons. The libtard media complies, of coarse and grants every wish of this administration because the media put that clown in office with the utilization of propaganda. The same method the Nazis used to empower Hitler.

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Originally posted by wohali

The problem much of America has with Obama is that he is Black. Political correctness stifles the urges to express that, therefor these racists try to undermine him at every level. Occasionally they slip,ie: great white hope,Barack the magic negro, etc. The large undereducated, religiously brainwashed segment of America is easily manipulated by corporate politicians who use their ignorance to form the base of the Republican party. I mean, look at the Palin phenomenon, they actually supported one of their own for office. That's why they loved her, she was just as ignorant as they were. Obama is no perfect president either, as the left would like him to attain the holy aura of JFK. Obama has debts to pay too, to his supporters and daily he shows himself to be just another politician. But in reality, for many White Americans, its all about race and perverse desire to find a time machine where they all can return to 1956, when Elvis was alive, communists were evil, gas was cheap, and Blacks sat in the back of the bus.

That is the dumbest most unintellectual first "13" words spoken about any president. Try all the promises he made & promised change. Well now all you stupid idiots got it! DONT PLAY THE FUCKING RACE CARD, IT's NOT BLACK & WHITE STUPID.

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Originally posted by hadenough

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...GM isn't falling apart anymore because they totally wasted the place. It is now Government owned and worth less than the day the government took it over. Obama is still hemorrhaging money into Iraq and as a matter of fact increased tensions in Afghanistan. The reason you think Iraq is over is that the socialist media has been instructed to lay off news coverage of Iraq and Afghanistan by our government goons. The libtard media complies, of coarse and grants every wish of this administration because the media put that clown in office with the utilization of propaganda. The same method the Nazis used to empower Hitler.

Yeah, Obama should have let GM fail and put all those people out of the job. Also, he should be doing a better job with Iraq and Afghanistan, those two wars he didn't start.

lolbutthurt republican.