"Sexual assault is a bunch of hooey"....George Will

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Originally posted by kurtz1

I think the definition of rape has changed over the years. When I went to college way back in the sixties rape was really defined as ripping the clothes off,
smashing in the face, sending to the hospital type violence. Back then women didn't drink like they do today and lose control of their thought processes.
I'm not so sure us guys were really much different then as now. Male biology is still male biology. Morals in general where much stronger. We still
pressed the issue with the girls and got many "nos" before we got anywhere. But that didn't mean we gave up. We might have been even more forceful
then today. But in return the women mostly stayed in control.

Sometimes to try to protect the women who have less self control today with the general lack of morals, alcohol flowing everywhere, etc. rape is being
defined as anything less than the woman pulling the guy into bed. I don't think that's a reasonable expectation. Down through history men have pursued
women, not the other way around. It's pretty much base on human biology. Tough to change biology unless you medicate every man to eliminate their
natural urge.

I have a son in college right now. He behaves himself, but seems to do OK with the ladies. He says that outright physically violent send to the hospital
type rape is pretty rare. He says sex is readily available after a date or two. There are exceptions, but not a whole lot. You just try a different girl, if
one is not interested. The problem seems to be general lack of morals, media permissiveness, easy availability of alcohol and drugs. Are the guys
supposed to be counselors and psychologists and try to determine when the girl has one to many? Not a reasonable expectation. Get rid of guns
and you probably lower the homicide rate, tighten up morals and get rid of alcohol around campus and you lower the practice of sex.

George Will may not have it all right, but blaming the college guys is getting old and not the answer, nor in most cases the real problem.

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Originally posted by Sugarpie

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Yeah...its still defined by having sex with someone who says no.
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So the hundreds of thousands of rapes that were committed by family members, close family friends, and acquaintances that were non violent really weren't rape? Are you honestly saying that?
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Im only going to respond to this once, even though you mention it several times...If she says no, its rape. Even if she says no 100 times, and then as you say "pressed the issue" and she eventually says yes...its still rape.
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Yeah...thats pretty much the definition of rape.
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I knew the slut shaming would start soon enough. So a guy is allowed to go out and have a good time, have some drinks, but the woman isn't? The guy shouldn't be held to the same moral guideline when impaired as the woman is? Since when does drinking and getting drunk mean that a woman wants sex? I've had some drinks before, I've been pretty drunk, but never have I lost control to the point that if some guy stuck his penis inside me, I wouldn't know it, and wouldn't be able to comprehend that I don't like it.
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Oh I'm sorry...you have urges...why didn't you say so? With this new evidence brought to light, I totally reverse my beliefs, and think that rape is A-OK...go out and rape all the women you need to satisfy your urges.
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Yeah, he's right...because most rapes are committed by someone the victim trusts...not some guy who breaks in wearing a ski mask.
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Again with the slut shaming? Just because a woman may enjoy sex does not mean its ok to rape her.
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No, but they are supposed to act like decent fucking human beings.
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Seriously..the slut shaming is really getting old. Also...there is a HUGE different between "the practice of sex" and rape, although I'm not surprise that you can't see that, as you've pretty much said through out your post that its ok to rape a girl if she likes sex or has been drinking.
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Well...rape against a woman is pretty hard to do without a guy so yeah...the college guy is the problem. But again...I'm forgetting that you think like a rapist, so you won't agree with anything I've had to say.

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Originally posted by Poida

There's no excuses for rape no matter how many fancy words you can string together. This muppet is just doing what they pay him for... writing a pile of shit to stir people up. It seems to be more ideologically driven rather than based on principles, morals and all that. Unfortunate that this kind of media plays a part in the way society is shaped, possibly hindering any progress made by taking away some of the guilt, if any, from rapists and potential rapists.

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Originally posted by Poida

Since you like him for the most part, I'd be interested if you could provide a link to any positive articles he's written.

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Originally posted by lia

Some people are jus mean, and ignorant by choice. There is no talking sense to them.

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Originally posted by Davey45

Cubs baseball is a bunch of hooey.

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Originally posted by Davey45

Cubs baseball is a bunch of hooey.

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Originally posted by Bangledesh

Joke killer.

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Originally posted by F1098

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