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Picture Denial.. Altered/Photoshopped

Starter: JPie Posted: 4 years ago Views: 4.4K
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#5166843
Lvl 8
Is there a way to 'appeal' this designation? Have four pictures in Queue log that have been denied, none have been altered and are certainly not photoshopped...not computer savvy enough to determine, seems like there is an automated logarithm thats picking up on something
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#5166860
Lvl 18
Had lots like this myself, also no photoshop used but hey ho!
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#5166999
Lvl 56
I have had lots of those too, or sometimes "Other", or "Celebrity/Model" but pictures with the same person have been uploaded too... Sometimes it just doesn't make any sense. Maybe we should have bets on denial of pictures.

Maybe the cropping can sometimes make one believe it has been photoshopped, but in that case you can deny every picture as you can never know for sure.
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#5167002
Lvl 39
None of it makes sense to me. I've had pictures rejected then a week or so later have seen the very same picture posted by someone else. Also had several rejected as 'underage' yet other pictures of the same girls are posted by other people. They need to get their mods on the same page instead of all the haphazard bull shit!
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#5167014
Lvl 85
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Originally posted by CWagstaff
I have had lots of those too, or sometimes "Other", or "Celebrity/Model" but pictures with the same person have been uploaded too... Sometimes it just doesn't make any sense. Maybe we should have bets on denial of pictures.

Maybe the cropping can sometimes make one believe it has been photoshopped, but in that case you can deny every picture as you can never know for sure.


Cropped photos will be denied, so if you have cropped any of your uploads that will explain why they aren’t getting through. Mods can do a simple image search to see if an image has been altered.
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#5167015
Lvl 85
Quote:
Originally posted by JPie
Is there a way to 'appeal' this designation? Have four pictures in Queue log that have been denied, none have been altered and are certainly not photoshopped...not computer savvy enough to determine, seems like there is an automated logarithm thats picking up on something


Let me know which ones you’re referring to and I’ll take a look.
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#5167016
Lvl 85
Quote:
Originally posted by strictguy
None of it makes sense to me. I've had pictures rejected then a week or so later have seen the very same picture posted by someone else. Also had several rejected as 'underage' yet other pictures of the same girls are posted by other people. They need to get their mods on the same page instead of all the haphazard bull shit!


There is more than 1 moderator of images. They all have individual opinions which include whether a girl looks underage or not - there’s no way of actually knowing so this is always down to opinion.

If you upload 10 images of the same girl, it doesn’t mean 1 moderator will review all 10 images. I might approve 5 and then another mod might view the girl as underage and reject the other 5.

It might be frustrating but that’s the way it is 🤷‍♂️
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#5167017
Lvl 85
If anyone has any issues/concerns re: their uploads, there’s no reason why you can’t send a message to a mod and they can look into it for you. Genuine mistakes can be made, or there might be a good reason for an image to be rejected and it can be explained.
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#5167026
Lvl 23
Thanks for all the clarification Sentinel, hopefully all the uploaders can appreciate the position that the mods find themselves in- protecting the site from liability/litigation while wanting to keep the content coming. UR doing the lord's work.
As a long-time paying member, I was recently motivated to not just be an observer but to try to contribute content as best as I can. Considering I’m older and not as social media and web savvy and you younger gens I get tripped up sending content that probably frustrates all the mods to have to pick through.
I did have a couple questions-
What does if mean when a picture is rejected and it simple says "Deleted"? Isn't the whole reason you have categories like Underage/Celebrity Model/Duplicate etc. is to give an explanation to the uploader?
Also, has the Queue been overloaded recently? I have about 80 pix waiting in the Q since July 29th and was just curious?
Thanks again for all you do.
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#5167039
Lvl 85
Quote:
Originally posted by people
Thanks for all the clarification Sentinel, hopefully all the uploaders can appreciate the position that the mods find themselves in- protecting the site from liability/litigation while wanting to keep the content coming. UR doing the lord's work.
As a long-time paying member, I was recently motivated to not just be an observer but to try to contribute content as best as I can. Considering I’m older and not as social media and web savvy and you younger gens I get tripped up sending content that probably frustrates all the mods to have to pick through.
I did have a couple questions-
What does if mean when a picture is rejected and it simple says "Deleted"? Isn't the whole reason you have categories like Underage/Celebrity Model/Duplicate etc. is to give an explanation to the uploader?
Also, has the Queue been overloaded recently? I have about 80 pix waiting in the Q since July 29th and was just curious?
Thanks again for all you do.


I didn't realise there was an option where it just says "deleted" - in your delete log, it should give a reason at the top of each image as to why it was rejected. Is this not the case for yours?

The queue has been on the large side recently, it currently has 14,000 images waiting to be moderated. Bear with us, we'll definitely get through them as quickly as possible.

In answer to your other comment about content that frustrates moderators - I can't speak for anyone else but my personal irritation comes from those images which are clearly marked with a website address on them, or those that are so grainy (poor quality). It's frustrating that the person who uploads them thinks they are suitable but all it does it clog the queue up.

I think what some users also forget is that I, and the other mods, are also contributors to the site. So I have to upload images into the queue like everyone else, and we're not allowed to moderate our own images (the system doesn't allow it). So plenty of my images are rejected for a whole host of reasons, some of which I don't agree with - the difference is, having done the job of a moderator I understand that it's nothing personal against me (hopefully), it's just the opinion of whichever mod is checking my uploads. I'm sure I've rejected images from other mods and they can't understand why, but again, it's MY opinion.
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#5167043
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Originally posted by The_Sentinel
I didn't realise there was an option where it just says "deleted" - in your delete log, it should give a reason at the top of each image as to why it was rejected. Is this not the case for yours?



The pictures with deleted are in the Live Log - those are pictures that were first accepted and removed after report or removed by a mod in second opinion. When those are removed they don't have all possibility's of reject categories like those in the queue log
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#5167046
Lvl 85
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Originally posted by eightball88
The pictures with deleted are in the Live Log - those are pictures that were first accepted and removed after report or removed by a mod in second opinion. When those are removed they don't have all possibility's of reject categories like those in the queue


Ah yes, sorry I thought we were discussing the queue log part. It would be handy if we could still select a reason for deleted images on the live log.
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#5167079
Lvl 23
Thank you both for the clarity!
#5167080
Lvl 39
Quote:
Originally posted by The_Sentinel
There is more than 1 moderator of images. They all have individual opinions which include whether a girl looks underage or not - there’s no way of actually knowing so this is always down to opinion.

If you upload 10 images of the same girl, it doesn’t mean 1 moderator will review all 10 images. I might approve 5 and then another mod might view the girl as underage and reject the other 5.

It might be frustrating but that’s the way it is 🤷‍♂️


I can understand the underage issue, but please explain to me why I can have photos rejected as 'celebrity model' or 'already in the data base' then see these very same pictures posted a few weeks or a month later by someone else? I've said before its favoritism for certain members, but if not, why does it keep happening?
#5167081
Lvl 85
Quote:
Originally posted by strictguy
I can understand the underage issue, but please explain to me why I can have photos rejected as 'celebrity model' or 'already in the data base' then see these very same pictures posted a few weeks or a month later by someone else? I've said before its favoritism for certain members, but if not, why does it keep happening?


It could be as simple as I recognise a particular woman as being a model so I reject the photos, and another mod doesn’t (and doesn’t do any searches) so allows them through.

The “already in the database” message is one you get at the point of uploading the photos, so that’s not even a mod decision. And if you later see that image on the site, perhaps that’s the one that was already in the queue before yours 🤷‍♂️

I get that it can be frustrating but the only solution is have one person do all the moderating, which isn’t feasible. Numerous mods means numerous opinions about a variety of rejection reasons, there’s no easy fix here. As I mentioned, other mods delete my uploads for being a celeb sometimes and then a different mod allows a few of the same girl through.

There’s no favouritism involved, certainly not from me anyway. When I log in to the queue to moderate some pictures, they come at me one by one and I have no say in what order. So I can’t pick my favourite member and moderate all of their images at once, for example.
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#5167803
Lvl 30
Quote:
Originally posted by The_Sentinel
It could be as simple as I recognise a particular woman as being a model so I reject the photos, and another mod doesn’t (and doesn’t do any searches) so allows them through.

The “already in the database” message is one you get at the point of uploading the photos, so that’s not even a mod decision. And if you later see that image on the site, perhaps that’s the one that was already in the queue before yours 🤷‍♂️

I get that it can be frustrating but the only solution is have one person do all the moderating, which isn’t feasible. Numerous mods means numerous opinions about a variety of rejection reasons, there’s no easy fix here. As I mentioned, other mods delete my uploads for being a celeb sometimes and then a different mod allows a few of the same girl through.

There’s no favouritism involved, certainly not from me anyway. When I log in to the queue to moderate some pictures, they come at me one by one and I have no say in what order. So I can’t pick my favourite member and moderate all of their images at once, for example.


What you are saying is that the moderators are simply not fit for purpose. Just "thinking" that a girl is a model is simply not good enough. You should be able to categorically name the model. Most models have their pictures copyrighted and the photo annotated as such and in this instance will be identified as having a watermark won't it. To say that it's frustrating to have a picture rejected when I and others have posted the same girl is an understatement. Why don't you publish the criteria that you actually work to? Because you certainly don't adhere to the guidance that is contained on the site. In short; resign from the position of moderator and let people with more common sense and ability take your place.
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#5167804
Lvl 85
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Originally posted by darkstar001
What you are saying is that the moderators are simply not fit for purpose. Just "thinking" that a girl is a model is simply not good enough. You should be able to categorically name the model. Most models have their pictures copyrighted and the photo annotated as such and in this instance will be identified as having a watermark won't it. To say that it's frustrating to have a picture rejected when I and others have posted the same girl is an understatement. Why don't you publish the criteria that you actually work to? Because you certainly don't adhere to the guidance that is contained on the site. In short; resign from the position of moderator and let people with more common sense and ability take your place.


I didn’t say “I think”, I said “I recognise”. So if I recognise an upload as being a famous model, I won’t let it through. Another mod may see the same image and not know she is famous, and therefore let the image through.
The fact that you think all photos of models have watermarks shows you don’t know as much as you seem to think. It would be great if it were that simple. The fact is, the mods get through around 1,000 photos each day - if we had to do a reverse image search on every single one, that number would dramatically reduce and then people would be bitching about how long it takes for images to be processed (more so than they already do).
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#5167805
Lvl 85
If we are unsure about an image then we will conduct an image search and use the evidence to block or allow.

My advice would be that if having images denied makes you that upset, just don’t upload. Save yourself the time and just enjoy the images that other users upload.

Also; I take offence at you saying the current mods aren’t fit for purpose. There are only a small number of us that work for free to try to help the site, and keyboard warriors like you who claim to know it all (but actually don’t) love to spout their bullshit from time to time.

Diz (site owner) is always on the lookout for new mods (we would welcome the help) so feel free to volunteer. If he feels you’re suitable I’m sure you’ll be a breath of fresh air and will revolutionise the current moderation methods.
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#5167806
Lvl 85
Also, and I’ve said this a lot, rather than throw your toys out of the pram - if you have an issue around particular images being rejected, just ask a mod to look into for you in polite manner. You don’t need to be a dick about it.
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#5167807
Lvl 21
game set match
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