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Future of WhatBoysWant.com

Starter: Diz-X Posted: 14 years ago Views: 52.3K
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#4450120
Lvl 25
As I am starting to work on the rating component in our new framework, I am going to to think of a system that will block troll voters. Another thing I want to add is AJAX based voting (In plain english this means: When you vote the page won't refresh, only the rating will change. )

If anybody has suggestions please let them know, because now is the time As I start working on it tomorrow.
#4450121
Lvl 71
The tag system is already based on AJAX isn't it ? You should also use it for posting a comment on a picture (if it's possible).

Concerning the anti-voting-troll system, you could use something like "if user have more than x votes and average vote is less than (something very low) or above (something very high) then user can't vote anymore (or can't vote for a certain period)".
#4450122
Lvl 13
What is a troll voter? Ta in advance.
#4450123
Lvl 71
I suppose that's someone who always vote 1 to make the picture average note fall or, on the contrary, always vote 10 ; the first one beeing obviously more annoying ^^
#4450124
Lvl 23
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Originally posted by omuh


Concerning the anti-voting-troll system, you could use something like "if user have more than x votes and average vote is less than (something very low) or above (something very high) then user can't vote anymore (or can't vote for a certain period)".


So if someone doesn't like a certain type of pic for example fat ones and vote it a one, they get punished for their opinion for voting all fat ones a 1, seriously bad idea.

On another note, how are favs saved on the server is it another database entirely? how much room does it take up in storage? if it takes up much space per user could there be a option of mass removing favs by the user? Sounds lazy i know, but curiius since i have noticed my favs is quite large...
#4450125
Lvl 71
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Originally posted by firereign

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So if someone doesn't like a certain type of pic for example fat ones and vote it a one, they get punished for their opinion for voting all fat ones a 1, seriously bad idea.

No, I never said that. In my post I was considering average vote (or the mean of all the vote made if you prefer) that the member putted not only one vote. For example, someone always voting 1 or 2 on ALL pictures will have an everage voting score of 1.5. Then we can consider that this member his troll voting.
Someone that just puts all kind of votes will never have such a little average vote.
(Same thing for people always putting 10 and you also have to choose a minimum of vote number to make the average note significant).

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Originally posted by firereign

On another note, how are favs saved on the server is it another database entirely? how much room does it take up in storage? if it takes up much space per user could there be a option of mass removing favs by the user? Sounds lazy i know, but curiius since i have noticed my favs is quite large...

As a profile is able to find the favs of the member, I suppose it's as easy to remove all the favs from one user (it's just removing instead of fetching ^^).
#4450126
Lvl 25
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Originally posted by omuh

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No, I never said that. In my post I was considering average vote (or the mean of all the vote made if you prefer) that the member putted not only one vote. For example, someone always voting 1 or 2 on ALL pictures will have an everage voting score of 1.5. Then we can consider that this member his troll voting.
Someone that just puts all kind of votes will never have such a little average vote.
(Same thing for people always putting 10 and you also have to choose a minimum of vote number to make the average note significant).


Sounds like a good idea, and isn't difficult as already in the current database structure we save the score somebody voted on a picture/movie ect. I will use this in the new voting components I will create.
#4450127
Lvl 23
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Originally posted by omuh

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No, I never said that. In my post I was considering average vote (or the mean of all the vote made if you prefer) that the member putted not only one vote. For example, someone always voting 1 or 2 on ALL pictures will have an everage voting score of 1.5. Then we can consider that this member his troll voting.
Someone that just puts all kind of votes will never have such a little average vote.
(Same thing for people always putting 10 and you also have to choose a minimum of vote number to make the average note significant).

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As a profile is able to find the favs of the member, I suppose it's as easy to remove all the favs from one user (it's just removing instead of fetching ^^).


I didn't think you did say that, just wanted some clarity on your insight. What you are proposing sounds like a great idea, i have heard of people setting up a macro to raise their score by voting, maybe take voting out of the user score might circumvent a good majority of it.
#4450128
Lvl 25
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Originally posted by firereign

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I didn't think you did say that, just wanted some clarity on your insight. What you are proposing sounds like a great idea, i have heard of people setting up a macro to raise their score by voting, maybe take voting out of the user score might circumvent a good majority of it.


We have seen people creating about 10 to 20 profiles to only vote ones and tens to raise scores of pictures they like and dislike.
#4450129
Lvl 22
I've always just liked the content. I've always had to become accustomed to new layouts. I've never seen another site as good as WBW, so I am surprised traffic is down so significantly. Other sites are too flashy for me. I think WBW is already pared down, but if you pare it down more, I will still like the content. And I like the emoticons - I'd say have a few more
Thank you for seven years of enjoyable photographs (those that weren't, I closed pretty fast).
#4450130
Lvl 14
Should have a way to get rid of sponser members only. when u put some pictures in fav for some reason it turns into SMO later on.
#4450131
Lvl 59
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Originally posted by Splash

I've always just liked the content. I've always had to become accustomed to new layouts. I've never seen another site as good as WBW, so I am surprised traffic is down so significantly. Other sites are too flashy for me. I think WBW is already pared down, but if you pare it down more, I will still like the content. And I like the emoticons - I'd say have a few more


I like emoticons too, but I think we should hide them in a popup box or something, so that they don't load every time a page opens. It's a waste of bandwidth and kills browsing on a mobile device.
#4450132
Lvl 20
1. we need a way to combine reposts easily. like a "repost" button next to the "report" button.
2. easier tagging system that is forced on upload, atleast a minimum amount, like 3 or 5.
#4450133
emoticons + iPhone =
#4450134
Lvl 25
Quote:
Originally posted by Sugarpie

emoticons + iPhone =


Yeah I tried to remove this in the past and put them in a ajax loaded menu, I got a lot of mad people after me with pitchforks
#4450135
Lvl 40
Quote:
Originally posted by Diz-X

Another thing I want to add is AJAX based voting (In plain english this means: When you vote the page won't refresh, only the rating will change. )

If anybody has suggestions please let them know, because now is the time As I start working on it tomorrow.


Yes please !!!! .. It has always annoyed me heaps that it reloads every time you vote. When the site is busy it can take ages to reload sometimes .. so it will be cool to see that go.
As long as it means you don't have to get rid of the hot or not feature ???????
#4450136
Diz, is there anyway to make the emoticons an option for members? It's not the ones that members add that take a long time to load, it's the emoticon gallery it's self that takes forever on a mobile device. Making it an option in user preferences would allow people who want to use still be able to and those who don't would only see the ones posted, it wouldn't load the gallery. I believe it was set up this way once before. The other option would be to reduce the number of them.
#4450137
Lvl 25
Small preview of the new tagger I am working on:
#4450138
Lvl 19
I really like the idea of showing a users average vote. It wouldnt take long to find those troll voters then...as well as discouraging them from doing it since their annonimity would be in jeopardy. I cant really complain about the current design as I wasnt here under the older version...but I will continue to come here. As for the emoticons....seems alot of them dont really have a place here...as in they dont match with the material. Maybe trim them down and replace some with ones that are more "To The Point" of what they get used for around here. But I spend most of my time in the babes section, so others who look at the cars may have use for them...so what do I know? Lol!
#4450139
Lvl 71
Quote:
Originally posted by Diz-X

Small preview of the new tagger I am working on:

No tag list ? Please keep it. It would be a pain in the *** if we were forced to manually type all the tags of a picture instead of just checking the good ones in the list.

Also, a good improvement in the tag list would be to sort the tags that are in big categories (like clothes, positions or location) in sub-categories. For example, in the clothes category, there would be "head" / "top" / "bottom" / "feet" / "special" ; in "feet" we would find socks, boots, heels etc. and in "special" : costume, nurse, cameltoe etc.
With that, it would be easier for taggers to find quickly what they want to check without forgetting anything.

With the same logic, it could be interesting to sort the tag in the bodyparts category from head to feet instead of alphabetically.

I'll try to make a more developed post when I got more time to think about it.
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