New rule for pics?

That's one bad sister

Houston we have a problem… (Or else, I have a problem)
Could someone explain to me, uploading rules please!
I’m trying to upload the followings, but I get not so good judgment according to my opinion.
Please do check my delete log https://whatboyswant.com/babes/modqueuelog/userid:48366 and advice if this is correct or not. I addressed to all moderators to clear this out, because if those judgment from those moderators that deleted my pictures are correct, I am about to delete allot (really allot) existing pictures like those:
https://whatboyswant.com/babes/show/2150853/userfavorites/48366
https://whatboyswant.com/babes/show/2151097/userfavorites/48366
https://whatboyswant.com/babes/show/2149354/userfavorites/48366
https://whatboyswant.com/babes/show/2144120/userfavorites/48366
https://whatboyswant.com/babes/show/2149088/userfavorites/48366
https://whatboyswant.com/babes/show/2148432/userfavorites/48366
https://whatboyswant.com/babes/show/2147942/userfavorites/48366
Be careful, it is not only “bad quality” matter; it is also “9. To limit the number of "non-porn/sexy" pictures uploaded to the galleries, non-nude pictures must show at least one of the following: cleavage, nipples (through tight or wet clothes), ass (through tights clothes), full legs (either bare legs or with stockings/pantyhoses/tight pants), cameltoe” as “omuh” added new rules.
I almost thing it is not personal vendetta!
As I try to be strict, I also send you the original pictures. (Unfortunately I can only add 3 pictures)
Please advice

We can't judge the quality of a pic from the delete log since pics can't be enlarged.
But from the 3 pics you attached I'd say:
- pic 1 is ok-ish but I understand it could be rejected for quality (my guess would be it's been cropped)
- pic 2 is altered (where the licence plate is)
- pic 3 is definitely bad quality (poor upscale or compression)

As for the links you gave from the galleries:
- first is already deleted apparently
- second is fine
- 3rd is ok-ish
- 4th is ok-ish, but I could understand it being too poor quality (I accepted it because the quality is due to the mirror, not the pic itself)
- 5th is bad quality indeed
- 6th is bad quality too
- 7th is altered

All those pics respect the 9th rule though. We can at least see some cleavage or full legs on the non-nude ones.

Obviously you're not pleased with the fact that I deleted some of your pictures...
I maintain that those were bad quality-pictures and if you analyse your logs you will see that you uploaded several times the same picture because you didn't accepted the rejection.(some were rejected 3 times in a row)
From my part this is not a personal vendetta but I'm not gonna accept pictures from you just because you're a mod , pictures that I also would refuse if they were uploaded by other users.

I was actually more or less expecting this kind of answers, but there are some things I’m trying to specify and this is why I called “Houston”.

eightball88 you are not my problem at all and, I’m not asking for my uploads to be uploaded just because I am a moderator! ! !

Secondly my point is to make things even better and not just to upload more pictures.

I think that pic mods should be less that they are, just to avoid so many different opinions about same pictures, as for example we have in my uploads. Some pics of mine did not approve by a mod, but did approve by a different one!

There are Jullexx, AJ100, Goldseeker and Omuh (beside cheap2 and eightball88 that more or less, I do respect their judgment) that generally don’t moderate (adding new ones) as we can see, although when they do they misjudge.

Another matter is that we need to know if we can trust mods that only delete pics for any reason, so pics that are not being deleted from them, should be in some category anyway. Also, do they check pics before, for example, I do?

Last Friday 4th I uploaded 16 pics (if I remember correct) and, last Saturday when I called “Houston”, I had 8 pics left in my babe queue because 8 were deleted over a day! Last 8 pics were deleted (also shouldn’t be in my opinion) last Thursday 10th after 6 days. Total site’s babe queue, was more or less the same all those days. As you can probably see (or if I can make you understand it easy) there are some issues in the way that pics are appearing to be moderated. (I remember some time ago that there was this big topic about how was I garbling pics to moderate).

I can write 10 pages for different things that I think we should change, but let this be just the begging of a general discussion of possible changes or not, for the way we do moderate and, why not (?), who moderate pics. Or just forget everything that I mention and go on. After all I’m just a “porn addicted” person that came up from nowhere and became almost the first uploading pics moderator.

Sorry for your time and thank you in advance

analog2604

PS. This is for you Omuh. You have just deleted as duplicated pics among others, 4 pics of mine (I’m talking about last 4.Three ones with blue swimsuit and one with red swimsuit). This is another example that there is something going wrong in here. Those pics cannot be duplicated in any reason, because I personal shot those pics just some days ago and, they were for the first time uploaded as we can see in my babe’s uploaded section.

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There are Jullexx, AJ100, Goldseeker and Omuh (beside cheap2 and eightball88 that more or less, I do respect their judgment) that generally don’t moderate (adding new ones) as we can see, although when they do they misjudge.

Another matter is that we need to know if we can trust mods that only delete pics for any reason, so pics that are not being deleted from them, should be in some category anyway. Also, do they check pics before, for example, I do?

Queue moderators (like Julle and I) do not moderate the same way you do. We check the whole queue (or the queue of a member) and delete everything that seems wrong. There is no way to accept pics from these pages. This is why you'll mainly see deletion in the stat page for queue mods. That's their role: remove the majority of "bad" pics before they reach the moderation process.
It doesn't mean that pics that are left by queue mod are ok because we don't have the time to check all pics in detail. So take that as a first cut, then the normal pic mods can finish the job.
Now about the "misjudging" part, every mod did and will do some mistakes here and there but as far as I know, I keep deleting a lot of pics that shouldn't have been accepted in the first place everyday in the galleries (through report or just by noticing them) and you aren't the one doing the less mistakes.

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Last Friday 4th I uploaded 16 pics (if I remember correct) and, last Saturday when I called “Houston”, I had 8 pics left in my babe queue because 8 were deleted over a day! Last 8 pics were deleted (also shouldn’t be in my opinion) last Thursday 10th after 6 days. Total site’s babe queue, was more or less the same all those days. As you can probably see (or if I can make you understand it easy) there are some issues in the way that pics are appearing to be moderated. (I remember some time ago that there was this big topic about how was I garbling pics to moderate).

Queue mod have access to the whole queue and can mod it right away (this is why you'll sometime see pictures being deleted at different time frames). I know Kanzen tend to clean the last uploaded pics so if you were to upload pics, you could have some deleted a few minutes after that because he just happened to have moderated them). I tend to do the opposite and mod the first pages of the queue every day to prepare the normal moderating process.
The moderation then follow rules that are now pretty good in my opinion: the site take a random pic among the last one uploaded (to avoid several mods having the same pic at the same time) with a group priority. So if you are group 1, your pics will be moderated before a group 2 member who uploaded the pics the same day (and so on).

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I can write 10 pages for different things that I think we should change, but let this be just the begging of a general discussion of possible changes or not, for the way we do moderate and, why not (?), who moderate pics. Or just forget everything that I mention and go on. After all I’m just a “porn addicted” person that came up from nowhere and became almost the first uploading pics moderator.

Feel free to express your suggestions either here or by PM

PS : That's weird, I was pretty sure I saw those pics already... Did you upload them several times? (They also look weirdly cropped for original pics but maybe that's your camera or you crop them afterward)... Anyway, could be a mistake yeah. Upload them again if that's the case.

Jullexxx we have a problem…..
I’m sure that this is not personal (?), but you have to consider that all the above pics must be uploaded because as omuh said: “9. To limit the number of "non-porn/sexy" pictures uploaded to the galleries, non-nude pictures must show at least one of the following: cleavage, nipples (through tight or wet clothes), ass (through tights clothes), full legs (either bare legs or with stockings/pantyhoses/tight pants), cameltoe”. And also “I'd say if you can see above the knee + half the thighs, that's good enough”
So, I suppose that you have already deleted as you shouldn’t have, other pictures from other up loaders…..

Am I alone in preferring that pictures do not come up to be moderated in preferred groups, e.g., group one before two, before three, etc? The randomization is, of course, good to keep two mods working at the same time from getting the same pic, but it seems like this set up will keep people in lower groups from getting their pics modded. At least in a decent amount of time.

They already have the number of uploads limited.

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Originally posted by kylecook

Am I alone in preferring that pictures do not come up to be moderated in preferred groups, e.g., group one before two, before three, etc? The randomization is, of course, good to keep two mods working at the same time from getting the same pic, but it seems like this set up will keep people in lower groups from getting their pics modded. At least in a decent amount of time.

They already have the number of uploads limited.

I don't think the problem is in which group you are but the amount of mods that really moderate pictures these days...(I'm in group 2 and have to wait my turn too for several days)
Personally if you look at the babes stats and you see some mods in 1 year haven't moderate the amount of 5000 pics in total (accepted , rejected and edited together), I don't think we should keep them as mods anymore when they got no other responsabilities on WBW.

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Originally posted by analog2604

Jullexxx we have a problem…..
I’m sure that this is not personal (?), but you have to consider that all the above pics must be uploaded because as omuh said: “9. To limit the number of "non-porn/sexy" pictures uploaded to the galleries, non-nude pictures must show at least one of the following: cleavage, nipples (through tight or wet clothes), ass (through tights clothes), full legs (either bare legs or with stockings/pantyhoses/tight pants), cameltoe”. And also “I'd say if you can see above the knee + half the thighs, that's good enough”
So, I suppose that you have already deleted as you shouldn’t have, other pictures from other up loaders…..

We can't see the full legs of those ladies so there isn't much interesting to see there. The only pic where we can see the full legs is the green dress one but it's bad quality anyway. The only one that could have been accepted, maybe, was the tight white pants one.

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Originally posted by kylecook

Am I alone in preferring that pictures do not come up to be moderated in preferred groups, e.g., group one before two, before three, etc? The randomization is, of course, good to keep two mods working at the same time from getting the same pic, but it seems like this set up will keep people in lower groups from getting their pics modded. At least in a decent amount of time.

They already have the number of uploads limited.

The delay between a group 1 and 6 is just a few days which is not huge considering how reduced the moderating time have been since the upload/moderating changes. Yes it will take more time for group 6 people to get their upload moderated but that's also the point because even if their upload number is reduced, they could just keep uploading 25 shitty pics faster if their moderation time was the same (it's already the case when queue mods delete some upload after a short time).

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Originally posted by eightball88

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I don't think the problem is in which group you are but the amount of mods that really moderate pictures these days...(I'm in group 2 and have to wait my turn too for several days)
Personally if you look at the babes stats and you see some mods in 1 year haven't moderate the amount of 5000 pics in total (accepted , rejected and edited together), I don't think we should keep them as mods anymore when they got no other responabilities on WBW.

I will have to agree with that and that's something I should consider soon even though I didn't get much time lately. Yes many mods aren't active anymore. I'm not sure we would find a lot more (that we can trust) though.
As for the moderation time, it's pretty decent right now (remember it was several weeks before the new system).

what about pictures with only the face of the girl with semen on it , I suppose we can refuse them with rejectcode "other" ?

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Originally posted by eightball88

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I don't think the problem is in which group you are but the amount of mods that really moderate pictures these days...(I'm in group 2 and have to wait my turn too for several days)
Personally if you look at the babes stats and you see some mods in 1 year haven't moderate the amount of 5000 pics in total (accepted , rejected and edited together), I don't think we should keep them as mods anymore when they got no other responsabilities on WBW.

Of course there will be some amount of time for pics to get moderated, regardless of what group they are in. It seems to hit up loaders with two punishments, though - limiting how many they can upload, and making them wait longer anyway.

If it was just a couple days difference, I'm not sure I would care, but I bounce between group three and four and it's been more than two weeks lately to get them modded. Unless we've just been processing pics much less lately.

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Originally posted by eightball88

what about pictures with only the face of the girl with semen on it , I suppose we can refuse them with rejectcode "other" ?

Perhaps, although I would say a facial is pretty overtly sexual and is appropriate for a porn site. I've been accepting those kinds of pictures, but can stop if I should be rejecting them.

Facial pics i think should still be accepted, even if I really have no idea why people find them at all enticing, i myself find them gross and unappealing

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Originally posted by eightball88

what about pictures with only the face of the girl with semen on it , I suppose we can refuse them with rejectcode "other" ?

Facial pics are clearly porn pics yeah, so you can accept them. Same if any sexual action is involved.

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Originally posted by kylecook

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Of course there will be some amount of time for pics to get moderated, regardless of what group they are in. It seems to hit up loaders with two punishments, though - limiting how many they can upload, and making them wait longer anyway.

If it was just a couple days difference, I'm not sure I would care, but I bounce between group three and four and it's been more than two weeks lately to get them modded. Unless we've just been processing pics much less lately.

Hum that seems pretty long indeed and I think the queue time might have globally increased because the difference wasn't that big from a group to another. Not too sure if there is a solution to that though except finding new, active, trustful mods
As for the "double punishment" there might be some fine tuning to be done, maybe, but I'm not expecting much change on the site itself soon unfortunately

Maybe there is just a bit of a glitch right now. I didn't notice any substantial time difference until about six weeks ago or so. Given the size of the queue, it seems like it should be under a week.

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Originally posted by kylecook

Maybe there is just a bit of a glitch right now. I didn't notice any substantial time difference until about six weeks ago or so. Given the size of the queue, it seems like it should be under a week.

That's also a possibility but it's gonna be hard to check that without knowing exactly what's going on under the hood.