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Originally posted by Swiss407
[reply=kennyMan2000]
I missed the part were it say that citizens have the right to smoke in the constitution. Maybe its in the bill of rights?
Bars are public areas. Second hand smoke has been proven to be harmful (not saying I agree). Small children, people with asthma, small children with asthma might be particularly vulnerable to second hand smoke. They have a right to be in public areas and the right to live. Those rights outweigh the bar owners rights. (I’m not saying I’m for/against smokers).
Nerboy is right
Absolutely wrong. The constitution just says that we're free to make our own choices, it doesn't need to specifically say smoking. Anyone can choose not to enter a bar if they disagree with the bar owners policy, so the the bar owner should be allowed to choose his policies, not forced to cater to people he doesn't want as customers. The bar owner has a right to run his business anyway he pleases as long as he's fair to his customers that CHOOSE to be his customers. If you don't like smoking, then don't come in, it's that simple. Why should he have to accomodate clientelle he doesn't want to accomodate? After all, he started the business, funded it himself and OWNS it. Your point about kids is just plain stupid, we're talking about a bar here not a Chuck E Cheese's, kids shouldn't be there anyway. You are the type of person that's making our country suck, because you want everything to be regulated. You want people not to have a right to CHOOSE what we do but rather be TOLD what to do just cause because the government deems it inappropriate. Don't be surprised when we can't log onto WBW anymore because of people just like you who feel we shouldn't be allowed to choose anything and want porn illegal because scientist have also proven that porn can trigger psychotic dillusions in people who are pre-disposed to violent crimes. Such as rapists and serial killers, almost every single one has listed porn as something they were almost obsessed with before they went out killing people. So I guess you would agree that because porn could negatively influence some people and make them want to rape and kill that none of us should be allowed to choose to view porn. Freedom is about making your own choices, the more we allow the government to control our choices the more we lose our freedom. If you give them an inch they will take a mile every single time, and though you seem to not care about smokers rights eventually they'll get on to something you do care about.
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I was being sarcastic.
"I missed the part were it say that citizens have the right to smoke in the constitution. Maybe its in the bill of rights?" = sarcasm
(sarcasm gives an alternative meaning to a literal phrase)
What if the bar owner chooses not to serve minorities?
Children aren’t allowed in bars, true. But they are allowed in public areas which is what I said.
For the record I am not for or against the bans on smoking. However it seems to be a good ban if only for the reason it is widely followed in the areas it is adopted in. There are literally on a handful of citations given out in California to enforce the ban since its enactment.
I don’t know how you came up with those other assumptions about me. Earlier I was just stating why you can’t smoke in some bars. Not sharing an opinion but the reality. America is the freest nation in the world and I want to keep it that way.
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