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#4316471
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Well, it's more like the lifestyle/function of the animal that determines the type of fiber that predominates, and that, in turn, determines the type of meat we categorize it as. The composition of the muscle fiber determines the general color of it, and fast twitch, type II fibers, generally have very little myoglobin, which is the protein integral in the oxidation process used to power type I fibers. The myoglobin is a dark-colored protein, and thus gives the traditional difference between what we see when we classify something as white meat or dark meat. Type I muscle, obviously, has a lot of it.

So, it's not quite black and white, but generally, yes.

Like, for example, the thigh muscle of a migratory bird may well be 'white' meat, because their legs don't operate for such extended periods of time as their breast muscles do while flying, and therefore will not have as much type I muscle as their wing muscles would.

Turkey, on the other hand, (and especially the supermarket bought ones) generally uses their wings for little more than flapping at the dude who's about to gut and feather them, so there is VERY little type I meat in the wings, while they do stand on their legs for long periods of time, which will give them a higher dark meat content in their legs versus their breasts. (Not to mention the specific genetic breeding to enhance the meat production to the farm's desired specifications)

So you can get overall trends in animals though, by looking at what they do.... migratory duck is going to have a fattier meat than cooped-up chicken, and hibernating Yogi Bear is going to have fattier meat than an African Cheetah.



Now, with regard to what is classified as "white" or "red" meat, that's more of a social custom to refer to certain animals in each way, as far as I know. Humans, as with most muscled animals, have some of each muscle type, but generally don't have any body parts that would be as polarized as, say, the wing tissue of a migratory bird, so all of their tissue, even the stuff that has relatively large amounts of type II muscle, is going to look red/dark to the butcher, or whomever is assiging the white/red meat connotation.



As I'm explaining it from my recollection of notes and lectures and things, it may sound a bit disjointed...

Check this out...they're pretty concise and, as far as I can tell, accurate.

http://www.exploratorium.edu/cooking/meat/INT-what-meat-color.html
#4316472
Lvl 11
Yeah, I think I've got the idea of Type I & II muscle now, but I'm still a bit confused about associating "white" and "dark" with the color of the meat in mammals from an experience standpoint. I've butchered enough animals to know that the meat of a squirrel, rabbit, pig, deer and cow, is generally the same color throughout the whole animal. It is kinda neat to finally know why some meats turn white when cooked though.

This was cool
#4316473
Lvl 24
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Originally posted by EricLindros

So, the other day, I'm in the parking lot at school, and because of my awesome tinted windows, you can't see me, but I can see you.

So, if you pull up next to me, don't pick your nose for like 10 minutes, giving me enough time to pull out my camera.


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youre totally awesome :P
#4316474
Lvl 59
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Originally posted by brownell

Yeah, I think I've got the idea of Type I & II muscle now, but I'm still a bit confused about associating "white" and "dark" with the color of the meat in mammals from an experience standpoint. I've butchered enough animals to know that the meat of a squirrel, rabbit, pig, deer and cow, is generally the same color throughout the whole animal. It is kinda neat to finally know why some meats turn white when cooked though.

This was cool


I would think a vast majority of that red color/meat is due to the blood that's still throughout their veins and such. Pretty much any animal, no matter what its makeup, is going to look pretty red when you gut it.

Except for the gall bladder...that little fucker is like a dark green. It's kind of gross, actually. And the bone, which is mostly white. And some other things. But yeah, genearlly.
#4316475
Lvl 24
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Originally posted by EricLindros

If by bj, you mean two-handed nose pick, then yes that's what's going on in that picture.


With like the reflection or whatever. Looks like a dude.
#4316476
Lvl 59
Oh, yeah, that's me sitting there. that's how you take a picture. You hold a camera device at the end of your arm, and press the button thing.
#4316477
Lvl 28
Has anyone noticed that Ellen on American Idol kinda looks like a grown up Dewey from Malcolm in the Middle?
#4316478
Lvl 28
Man, I've had that line from Major Payne stuck in my head all day, in the beginning when the General is telling him he's being discharged, he leans in all sad and he's like "But there's gotta be someone that needs some killin?"



Ah shit..I guess I love stupid goofy comedies too much.
#4316479
Lvl 59
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Originally posted by Honda_X

Has anyone noticed that Ellen on American Idol kinda looks like a grown up Dewey from Malcolm in the Middle?


No, because I don't watch American Idol, nor do I watch anything with that unfunny trollop.
#4316480
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Originally posted by Honda_X

Man, I've had that line from Major Payne stuck in my head all day, in the beginning when the General is telling him he's being discharged, he leans in all sad and he's like "But there's gotta be someone that needs some killin?"



Ah shit..I guess I love stupid goofy comedies too much.


You got good taste dude!

I love that movie! I have it and I'm a proud owner, I find it hilarious lol Especially when he hunts the rat in his apartment and he cooks it LMAO! Also the part with Bam Bam Bigelow (RIP) cracks me up all the time. Some comedies are meant to be stupid but they are so funny lol

Payne: "You wanna know what I heard? I heard your mother is so fat she plays pool with the planets" LMAO!

#4316481
Lvl 28
I still maintain the best part is when he's in that dance club, and that chick is like "I don't suppose you dance?" and he's like "A he he...I've been known to cut a little rug." and then he does the robot.

I watched that this afternoon and there is some pretty lulzy bits.

Or when he buries those kids in the dirt and keeps calling them "turd sprouts"..lol
#4316482
Lvl 9
I keep thinking "when did I post in here!!?!" when I see El's posts. Trippy.
#4316483
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Originally posted by Honda_X

I still maintain the best part is when he's in that dance club, and that chick is like "I don't suppose you dance?" and he's like "A he he...I've been known to cut a little rug." and then he does the robot.

I watched that this afternoon and there is some pretty lulzy bits.

Or when he buries those kids in the dirt and keeps calling them "turd sprouts"..lol


haha yeah I like that part where he dances like a robot lmao

And the chick is really hot..I forgot her name..very sexy.
#4316484
Lvl 28
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Originally posted by PPML

I keep thinking "when did I post in here!!?!" when I see El's posts. Trippy.




@GD: Yeah, I think her name is Karen Parsons...from Fresh Prince, I've always thought she was pretty good looking.

Another solid movie she was in was The Ladies Man.
#4316485
Lvl 59
Quote:
Originally posted by PPML

I keep thinking "when did I post in here!!?!" when I see El's posts. Trippy.


You know a lot about muscle tissue and meats, apparently.



(and notice how I avoided the meat innuendo jokes, because I'm a mature person, rite?!)
#4316486
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Originally posted by Honda_X

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@GD: Yeah, I think her name is Karen Parsons...from Fresh Prince, I've always thought she was pretty good looking.

Another solid movie she was in was The Ladies Man.


Thanks on the name (was lazy to google lol) and haven't seen that flick. (beer)
#4316487
Lvl 28
Quote:
Originally posted by EricLindros

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You know a lot about muscle tissue and meats, apparently.



(and notice how I avoided the meat innuendo jokes, because I'm a mature person, rite?!)


You're almost too classy.
#4316488
Lvl 21
Quote:
Originally posted by GrandDaddy

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Thanks on the name (was lazy to google lol) and haven't seen that flick. (beer)
http://www.blazinbeauties.com/pages1/karyn_parsons/karyn_parsons_5.jpg
#4316489
Lvl 20
Is the the chick from Fresh Prince? Hillary?
#4316490
Lvl 28
Totally.
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