Is Fat the New Normal?

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Originally posted by Honda_X

they seem to have this fucking attitude about it

Ya think?

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Originally posted by newnicknameguy

I have no sympathy for "emotional eaters", or people who "just can't put it down" - BULLSHIT FATTY! Step away from the burger!!!

damn straight..

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Originally posted by newnicknameguy

On a side note - anybody else notice that McDonalds doesn't even advertise to white people anymore?

what?
how do you mean?

here for example...all adds for macdonalds have purely white people in them
most of the 'non-aussie born aussies' wouldnt eat at macdonalds, been that its cheap..
most european born people here spend more than $6 on a meal.. south americans like to actually eat food..
so they also eat less macdonalds..

and aboriginals usually cant afford macdonalds anyways..

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Originally posted by rocknthefreeworld

BMI is a terrible way to measure people. Put it to you this way. You can work out and eat right like hell and wind up with a higher BMI than you started with. Why? Muscle weighs more than fat. BMI takes your weight and height and figures out a ratio. A 6 foot tall guy with a very muscular physique could easily weigh 225 and be considered in great shape with little body fat. But according to BMI he would be Obese. But if he weighed 137 he would be on the low end of normal. Anything over 183 is overweight for someone 6 ft tall. Not saying that we don't have a lot of lard-asses around, just that using BMI is a terrible method (The Rock in his prime was obese according to BMI).

Another thing we have to remember is that the government lowered the BMI thresholds in 1998, doubling the number of people considered overweight immediately.

I read somewhere that BMI was originally founded to judge meat (as in raw beef and shit) and not a human body mass. Could be an urban legend though...

Yeah, I'm going to have to agree with Loz on this one. There are plenty of big-bonededed people that McDonalds advertises to.

For example, this commercial, that incidentally makes me seriously consider raping Thomas's (the one on the right) mother with a crooked broomstick, is trying to appeal to dudes like Thomas and Fernando.

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What we are talking about isn't just fat people. We are talking about the continued dumbing down of America. Everyone is given a free pass and everyone is a victim and that's what we are teaching our children.

Everyone has a damned excuse. Everyone wants to take the easy way out.

I lost 80 lbs. Seriously. You know what? It wasn't that hard. Once I got in decent shape it was downright easy. You know what I noticed? All of these people would come up to me. "What's your secret?" "How did you lose the weight." Being the asshole that I am I responded with an equation. Honestly, that's the truth. Here it is:

Basal metabolic rate** + calories spent in some sort of movement or exercise - total calories consumed for the day = X
If your x is positive you will lose weight. If it is negative you will gain weight. If you want to lose 3 lbs in a week you will need to keep that X at or above 1500 every single day.

**basal metabolic rate is the number of calories someone at your weight burns doing nothing

There it is. The secret to losing weight. Want more? Okay, but only because I like you fuckers.
one pound of fat = 3500 calories

You want your bonus? Sure you do. We are fucking victims so everyone wants something for free. Water weight. Take your weight and cut it in half, that's at least how much water you should drink a day. Not coke, not tea, fucking water. Just do it because it works. You weigh 200? Drink 100 ounces minimum per day. If you do that you will "lose" some extra weight pretty quick when you first start your diet and work out. It's simply water weight. It will also keep you healthy and give your body the water it needs.


Everyone I ever told that is still fat. Want to know why? Because they're fucking lazy victims. They would rather do things the easy way. They'd rather go on the fucking "grapefruit diet" or the "amazon diet."

Weigh yourself every day and your weight can't possibly get out of control. You gained a lb yesterday? Fine, eat less today.

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Originally posted by newnicknameguy

Now I agree with 90% of what's been said. BUT from personal experience, I married a playmate (figuratively). She came down with Grave's Disease (a thyroid condition). She put on a lot of weight. She got super thin. She put on a lot of weight again. She is down to a healthy weight now, but not what she was when we married. She works out rigorously 3-5 times a week, but still has to watch every damn thing she eats. Medical issues do exist - just remember marriage is "in sickness and in health, for thin or for fat".

Same issue here. My wife had Grave's and they wound up doing the radioactive iodine treatment. Saved her life by killing her thyroid. It is a definite struggle with weight now.

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Originally posted by EricLindros

So, basically, fat people don't think they're fat anymore. Which, I suppose is good for bulimia and anorexia, but not so good for everyone else.

That would explain all the lard ass girls walking around with skimpy clothing on, I just want to pour fruit cocktail on them, and have some cottage cheese with mixed fruit.

Or puke.........................

My personal fav, is to see some fat person usually a woman ordering fast food, I want a double this with extra of that and a large order of w/e o and a large diet coke. Why the diet coke? seriously why a diet coke?

I tell them to buy two treats, & then just slap one on each hip cuz that's where it's gonna go anyway!

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Originally posted by robodick

I tell them to buy two treats, & then just slap one on each hip cuz that's where it's gonna go anyway!

Shush it, fatty.

But are people really getting fatter? The trend showing an increase in weight by Americans (in particular) has gone up in direct correlation with a movement from using body fat estimates to using BMI calculations. Body fat has a much higher correlation to physical health than BMI.

But calculating BMI is easier than actually measuring body fat. You just need height and weight, and a little math to come up with a number. BMI is a shortcut to trying to come up with a body fat estimate.

However BMI fails at this unless someone meets the criteria for the numbers used to come up with the baseline data. So someone with higher or lower bone density or someone with higher or lower muscle density or mass would fall outside the range for which the scale is meant to measure. Which is why the scale doesn't work for atheletes or those with osteoperosis.

Now, don't get me wrong. I am a fat fucker. I've eaten too much and gotten lazy the last few years. It's something that I'm working on correcting. However, let's look at some numbers of mine from a couple of years ago. I am about 5'9" (175 CM for you metric people) and I weighed 196 lbs (89 kilos). I worked a job that kept me phsically active all day. I did not lift weights or watch what I ate too much. I also had 12% bodyfat (normal range for men is between 14 and 18%). Using the BMI, I was still about 20 lbs from being "normal", and only about 6 pounds from being "morbidly obese".

The guy in the pic has 12% bodyfat, but a BMI of 28.9. And yes, I'm flexing to show off for my then GF who took the pic.

Be that as it may, I can't decide if we are getting fatter or not. Cities are increasing in population desnity, so we see more people. Not to mention the media allowing us to see people in other population centers. We then take all that inforamtion and make note of the ones that are exceptional and store them in our brains. Then we run a loose running total and come up with a number. It's like gay people - are there really more of them nowadays or do they just get more coverage? My point is, just because we see more fat people doesn't mean they make up a larger percentage of the population. We won't know unless we use consistent measurement standards. Now that most physicians use BMI, we will probably see a leveling off of the percentage of "obese" people in this country (the US).

well I guess I don't see this. I live in Florida and we have shitloads of super hot, super skinny, super athletic people here. No joke, so the fat people who live here would still know they're fat by comparison. Shit I've put on a couple pounds lately and I feel kinda fat although I'm no where even close to actually being fat. I'm just not in as good of shape as I'm used to being in. I guess if you live in a state/area where the majority is over weight then you could get jaded by all the fat people but here it's a constant competition to be in the best shape, the most tan, the richest, etc.

I've got a birthday beach party thing for my wife's best friend on July 7th so I'm right now tryin to kill myself to get back into shape. I don't diet I just murder myself with weights. The closer I get to 30 it seems like the harder I gotta work out. Used to be so damn easy to stay in shape. I'm still probably in better shape then the vast majority of people my age but in Florida there's always someone who's gonna make you look like a fat ass if you stand next to em, lol.

BMI and scales don't have anything to do with how "in shape" a person is. I am 6' and weigh 205lbs. I am much more solid now than I was 10 years ago when I weighed 185.

Also I live in South Florida where the population is either incredibly fit or a fatass. You don't run into too many "normal" folks much. I work out and try to stay in decent shape but I still have a bit of a beer gut(not too much I wear a 34-35 waist). If I go to the beach, every dude there is either some steroid-freak muscle guy or a lard butt. I'm just kinda stuck in the middle.

I'm 6'1" and I weigh around 180. I'm a 34 waist too davey. Weird, you must have big ass shoulders or somethin to have the same waist as me but be 25 pounds heavier.

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Originally posted by hydrahead

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Ya think?

I think the anchor is unnecessary.

i broke my neck and gained about 100 pounds lol...was a total lardass. I absolutely could not stand it.... anyway... with proper eating i lost 125lbs ... thats with simple proper eating (someone mentioned the caloric intake/metabolism ratio) and walking ...

I had a fucking broken neck and lost 125lbs ...even without being able to use weight training ... so i have ZERO sympathy for fatties ... i don't outright make fun of them ... but when i hear someone saying they cant get laid ... im the first to mention maybe its because they are FAT.

Being FAT is a direct result of LIFESTYLE that is CHOSEN... make no excuses ..if you wanna be fit ... you can continue eating trash at McDonalds ... you just have to work that much harder in the gym ..or walk that many more miles.

I agree with you choochoo although it is much easier for some then others. Some people can just eat all day long and anything they want and not gain a pound. Others can actually eat less then the recommended calories for their height/weight and still gain weight. So much has to do with metabolism and heredity. Still though the people who need to eat less need to do what it takes cause there's no excuse for walking around 300+ lbs or lookin like a beach ball.

I have to admit my 34 jeans are getting a bit tight. I have always been a pretty big guy. Not fatso or bodybuilder just not skinny. I also prefer lifting weights when I should probably be doing more cardio.

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The new normal?

Yuppie speak? I'm sorely disappointed in you Eric!!

Mmmmm, this is making me feel hungry.. anyone got any cake ?