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Give me everything for free...

Starter: tttttttttttttttt Posted: 19 years ago Views: 1.5K
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#1792015
Lvl 12
I'm just curious what is going on lately on this site, the internet and the world in general lately with regards to what can be summed up as the universal motto, 'Give me everything for free'.

Seriously, digital media and the proliferation of computing makes it extremely easy for things like movies, music, books, games and software to be copied, burned and sent to others. Then when the people affected by these activities steps up to say something, people tear into them for being 'uber-money making whores' of companies, yet without them, people wouldn't have any of those very things they felt compelled to effectively just steal. There is some kind of spiteful, hateful, entitlement driven idea being fueld from somewhere in many people's heads.

Furthermore, why do so many people feel so entitled to obtaining all these things for free? I realize one person stealing from a company like Microsoft, isn't a very big deal to Microsoft, though that doesn't make it any more 'ok'. Even ten people, so what, its not a big deal, but how about 500, 1000, 10000 or more? That's a lot of lost profit for work done. Now I know Microsoft isn't necessarily hurting (or are they, I don't know i'm not an analyst), the fact is a lot of people are actively stealing, copying and burning software such as Windows, and they thinks it cool and alright to do so, always by means of some fairly lame excuse, typically thrown right back at that very company for some reason or another.

This is frustrating to me because I make my living writing software, its whats putting food on my table and allowing me to live. The same goes for any other product that is copied and stolen in mass quantities as I spoke about above, even if a single person feels its okay to steal like this, its affecting somebody.

The common excuse is "screw them, they're rich enough", but in saying that they are usually referring to Bill Gates or others in the top echelon's of the company. However companies like Microsoft, Dell, Google (though most people like Google for some reason), phone companies, publishing companies, etc. are all comprised of thousands of workers. So the millions or sometimes billions of dollars companies make will often go back into the company and operating capital. The biggest cost to almost any business is the payroll. Stealing in effect hurts a lot of people potentially, especially when many people do it, which is clearly the case.

I personally don't see anything wrong when companies that are actively and obviously being ripped off step in and try to do something to stem the damage (wether that be requiring registration, licensing codes or changes to licensing agreements), however there is a LOT of animosity in the world towards this kind of reaction from such companies and I just don't see where its coming from, other than people are obtaining a sense of entitlement from somewhere, whats what I'm trying to figure out.

Regardless, the end result of these activities is for digital media to be very tightly bound to the individual in some way, so that the ability to copy and give to another will be destroyed or overaly time-consuming or complex to be worth the thief's time.

The other result is the open-source movement (at least with respect to software), which I think has its benefits as well as it downfalls. (I'm never quite sure how they make money unless its from donations or some kind of advertising system )

I sure wish more people had respect for the hard work the people that make the things a lot of people are stealing.

I'm just curious on others thoughts on this stuff.
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#1792016
Lvl 19
Someone tell me what this is about. I don't have the time to read all of this. I'm sure it's a nice essay though.
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#1792017
Lvl 21
Here, I've highlighted in bold the important details of this article.

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#1792018
Lvl 15
hahah yeah i read the first sentence till i lost interest
#1792019
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#1792020
Lvl 5
Quick way to sum it up
Dont Steal Software because if you do, people will starve and 3rd world country people will get the clap.
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#1792021
Lvl 21
Quote:
Originally posted by JusWes

Quick way to sum it up
Dont Steal Software because if you do, people will starve and 3rd world country people will get the clap.


It wasn't software. Ok, maybe it was, but it was just once.
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#1792022
Lvl 9
Quote:
Originally posted by Beta671




Just what i was supposed to write :/
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#1792023
Lvl 29
None of you have any attention span at all. I thought it was very well written.
#1792024
Lvl 19
Of course I don't have an attention span, so little time and so many cars to look at.
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#1792025
Lvl 9
Well. It was clearly well written, but seriously, who pays 300 bucks for Windows XP?
Its either Download or run unix/linux =)
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#1792026
Lvl 29
XP came with my comp. But movies and music, well...........

@Beta. Why does everyone keep saying there's cars here?
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#1792027
I could appreciate this if it was written for another forum. Like a non-porn forum for example.
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#1792028
Lvl 23
Mmm, well written essay.
#1792029
Lvl 22
1) Dont buy shit software that 3 times of 4 turns into a blue screen telling u to hump your sock
2) Dont pay 300-400€ to buy shit software as described above

If u got good software, people will buy it/pay for it... just look at those geezers with WoW...they managed to get chinese people to pay for a game!!
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#1792030
Lvl 12
I haven't seen a blue screen in like 10 years, in fact I rarely have any problem with the OS, and I gladly pay $200 as its pretty cheap considering what you get, can do a hell of a lot more than a $400 xbox or a $5000 television.

WoW has serial numbers, not gonna matter if you copy that stuff or not, its subscription based, yet another avenue many companies will be moving towards, as its a constant stream of profit and will keep people coming back for more.

If 'crap software' is an excuse to steal it instead of pay for it.... it makes little sense, if it sucked so bad I'd think it wouldn't be worth stealing.
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#1792031
Lvl 13
Quote:
Originally posted by Beta671

Of course I don't have an attention span, so little time and so many cars to look at.


. Cars... . Right, like there's a car forum...
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#1792032
Lvl 11
Quote:
Originally posted by CaptainCharisma

hahah yeah i read the first sentence till i lost interest

CaptainCharisma and jeff should hook up make beautiful blog together.
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#1792033
Lvl 12
Hey Vagrant, I'm totally agreeing with you. On the one hand, prices are inflated with piracy in mind, but people steal because the prices are so inflated...
I think a lot of people think it's not as bad to steal something that's not a physical object. Most people feel that it's morally wrong to steal cd's from Best Buy, but have no problem dl'ing mp3's. But really what's the difference? Some people justify it by saying, "Oh Microsoft is evil for such and such a reason, (BTW, I hate M$), or the RIAA is a bunch of greedy bastards," (I do believe this).
Ideally, if people wish to voice discontent, they should do so by giving their money to someone else; i.e. don't buy M$, buy Apple or Linux. If anyone is being punished by theft, it's the low man on the totem pole, content creators, artists, and honest people who choose to pay the inflated prices, certainly not Bill Gates, M$, or the record labels.
I make a living making records. I don't steal music, because I don't want to steal from artists, 99% of whom are struggling as is.
I believe that in an ideal world, information, (software, music, art, drug patents) would be available to everyone, either for free, or cheap, but maybe that ideal is like 200 years away. It's kind of weird, that someone can say, "This particular pattern of 1's and 0's is MINE, and you can not legally reproduce that pattern."
Oh well, that's my 2 cents. We'll see where this internet thing takes us. In 20 years, everything's going to be a whole new game anyway, so "Power to the people!", hopefully.
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#1792034
Lvl 11
Quote:
Originally posted by kloff

Well. It was clearly well written, but seriously, who pays 300 bucks for Windows XP?


I did

I previously had a dodgy copy on a previous computer but was pee'd off with not being able to get the Windows updates
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