firearms refresher course

FIREARMS REFRESHER COURSE
1. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.
2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.
3. Colt: The original point and click interface.
4. Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.
5. If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?
6. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.
7. Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.
8. If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.
9. Those who trade liberty for security have neither.
10. The United States Constitution ©1791. All Rights Reserved.
11. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?
12. The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the
others.
13. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.
14. Guns only have two enemies; rust and politicians.
15. Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
16. You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.
17. 911: Government sponsored Dial-a-Prayer.
18. Assault is a behavior, not a device.
19. Criminals love gun control; it makes their jobs safer.
20. If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson.
21. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control
them.
22. You have only the rights you are willing to fight for.
23. Enforce the gun control laws we ALREADY have; don't make more.
24. When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves.
25. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.

lol

funny serious note tho... guns empower idiots to do even more damage, and killing someone with a gun is easier than with your bare hands, more guns, more shootings, more safety ??

Actually, one item left out is "An armed society is a polite society". In spite of all the hoopla and blood-in-the streets screaming by liberals here in the US (and I am in a liberal hellhole, Massachusetts) - in spite of it all - in the states where laws have been loosened and where concealed carry is a widely acceptable option - there are now 46 out of 50 states in that wonderful club - in places where more people are carrying firearms and have them home, the crime rate is plummeting. No, there have been no shootouts in the streets, road rage is not being settled by weapons, and people are not being killed "accidentally" by their own guns. In every case and every argument against private ownership - the liberals lose, and continue to do so.

I carry when I travel in certain areas of my own state - when only gangs and thugs have guns, and the cops are miles away and slow in response, I'm glad I have something useful and powerful in my purse. Don't get me wrong, though - having cops around is great. Too bad, though, that they usually arrive at a crime scene after-the-fact, just in time to photograph the mess and supervise the cleanup.

I agree with every statement in that list above. I have no problem owning guns, being with people who own guns, and have absolutely no issue with using deadly force in self defense to deadly force from some thug. I have a major problem with governments that don't trust their own citizens. The sentiment is true that citizens of a state or country that does not trust them are no longer citizens at all - they are subjects on the road to a status of less-than-subject.

Sorry Mayor Bloomberg, Sens Kennedy/Clinton/Schumer/Feinswine, the UN, and the rest of you grabbers - I and all my friends are keeping our guns!

Gun control is hitting what you aim at!

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Originally posted by waywardson

FIREARMS REFRESHER COURSE
1. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.
2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.
3. Colt: The original point and click interface.
4. Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.
5. If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?
6. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.
7. Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.
8. If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.
9. Those who trade liberty for security have neither.
10. The United States Constitution ©1791. All Rights Reserved.
11. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?
12. The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the
others.
13. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.
14. Guns only have two enemies; rust and politicians.
15. Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
16. You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.
17. 911: Government sponsored Dial-a-Prayer.
18. Assault is a behavior, not a device.
19. Criminals love gun control; it makes their jobs safer.
20. If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson.
21. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control
them.
22. You have only the rights you are willing to fight for.
23. Enforce the gun control laws we ALREADY have; don't make more.
24. When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves.
25. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.

Yes, to all the above!

I feal sorry for you people who actually live in a part of the world where all that BS is true!
I personally don't see a problem in all who got gun go out and kill each other, so the rest of us don't have to worrie about crap like that!

I don't know - how's that jihad thing going in Denmark? Seems like a lot of people who enjoy using knives and swords to get their way are pretty pissed off at the native Danes. That group has a history of violence and an extreme reluctance to integrate into society: riots and fires in Paris (still going on), riots in Indonesia (and bombings and beheadings), mass murder and genocide in the Sudan and other garden spots in Africa, heightening tensions in the Balkans again, hatred and exclusion in Detroit - sounds to me that the jihadists bring trouble and blood wherever they go. Personally, I'd like to be armed if I encountered one at home or on the street.

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Originally posted by Erin_K

I don't know - how's that jihad thing going in Denmark? Seems like a lot of people who enjoy using knives and swords to get their way are pretty pissed off at the native Danes. That group has a history of violence and an extreme reluctance to integrate into society: riots and fires in Paris (still going on), riots in Indonesia (and bombings and beheadings), mass murder and genocide in the Sudan and other garden spots in Africa, heightening tensions in the Balkans again, hatred and exclusion in Detroit - sounds to me that the jihadists bring trouble and blood wherever they go. Personally, I'd like to be armed if I encountered one at home or on the street.

thats about the only valid point to bear arms!

but the availabilty of guns makes them an option to use, and not everyone has a cool head

The constitution of the United States Of America clearly states we have the right to bear arms. I have 5 guns 4 in my house and one in the glove box of my car. I have never had to shoot any one nor have I had to threaten someone with a gun. Also I carry a condom in my car just in case I come across someone ready to put out. Now if I have that condom and someone comes up to me ready to fuck I'm ready. If not what am I wasting more than a little space? I guess what I'm getting at is I would rather have a gun and not need it. Than need it and not have it.

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Originally posted by creepus

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thats about the only valid point to bear arms!

but the availabilty of guns makes them an option to use, and not everyone has a cool head

So your point is? Yes - self-defense is the PRIMARY reason to own them! Sure, I own a bunch, shoot them at the range often, get into off-hand shooting contests with a lot of my friends. And if you think video games are great for eye-hand coordination - try skeet, trap, or any clay bird shooting. Try plain old plinking. Shoot at moving targets - that requires coordination and nerves.

Yes - the US Constitution guarantees our right as citizens to own guns - and it does not mean for hunting and target shooting. It is for self-defense and to maintain a state of balance in friendly opposition to a power hungry government. THAT is what the 2A in our Constitution is all about.

Personally, I have only one problem with criminal checks before firearm purchases - the government (Clinton/Schumer/Kennedy/Pelosi etc) get to set the rules about what is criminal and who is excluded - THAT is NOT a power granted to the gov by the Constitution.

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Originally posted by Hangtime600RR

The constitution of the United States Of America clearly states we have the right to bear arms. I have 5 guns 4 in my house and one in the glove box of my car. I have never had to shoot any one nor have I had to threaten someone with a gun. Also I carry a condom in my car just in case I come across someone ready to put out. Now if I have that condom and someone comes up to me ready to fuck I'm ready. If not what am I wasting more than a little space? I guess what I'm getting at is I would rather have a gun and not need it. Than need it and not have it.

Absolutely. Like having a fire extinguisher in the house or on the boat. Better to have it at a time of need, than to wish you had it.

It is a terrible thing indeed to get an unexpected invitation to a gunfight and not have the price of admission.

Looking at it another way - why NOT shoot someone does not care enough for his own life and lacks the general sense of public duty to be prepared at all times to resist with appropriate and necessary force? Anyone who goes about unarmed makes the world less safe for us all and in my mind is not worthy of the right of citizenship.

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Originally posted by deb1984

Actually, one item left out is "An armed society is a polite society". In spite of all the hoopla and blood-in-the streets screaming by liberals here in the US (and I am in a liberal hellhole, Massachusetts) - in spite of it all - in the states where laws have been loosened and where concealed carry is a widely acceptable option - there are now 46 out of 50 states in that wonderful club - in places where more people are carrying firearms and have them home, the crime rate is plummeting. No, there have been no shootouts in the streets, road rage is not being settled by weapons, and people are not being killed "accidentally" by their own guns. In every case and every argument against private ownership - the liberals lose, and continue to do so.

I carry when I travel in certain areas of my own state - when only gangs and thugs have guns, and the cops are miles away and slow in response, I'm glad I have something useful and powerful in my purse. Don't get me wrong, though - having cops around is great. Too bad, though, that they usually arrive at a crime scene after-the-fact, just in time to photograph the mess and supervise the cleanup.

I agree with every statement in that list above. I have no problem owning guns, being with people who own guns, and have absolutely no issue with using deadly force in self defense to deadly force from some thug. I have a major problem with governments that don't trust their own citizens. The sentiment is true that citizens of a state or country that does not trust them are no longer citizens at all - they are subjects on the road to a status of less-than-subject.

Sorry Mayor Bloomberg, Sens Kennedy/Clinton/Schumer/Feinswine, the UN, and the rest of you grabbers - I and all my friends are keeping our guns!

Gun control is hitting what you aim at!

Actually I am a Harry Truman Democrat I posted this and believe in it Not all liberals are open border pussys .

"Fightin' Words"

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Excuse me
First amendment?
Son, the first amendment protects you from the government
Not from me
You can say whatever you want to out there
You come within reach of me
I'll exercise my right to give you a good ol' country ass whoopin'
Is what I'll do for you
By God

I was raised in a household with numerous guns. Now that i'm out on my own I have guns in my home. Always have and always have. Do I go out and shoot anyone? No, but you better believe I wouldn't think twice about killing you if you come in to steal my dvds and television.

I am a regular citizen and I have a CPL (concealed pistol licence) I carry almost every day I do it because I am exercising my right and to protect my wife and myself if I should ever need to I have never had to even come close to having to use it . with the correct education and training there is nothing wrong with having a way to protect yourself.

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Originally posted by waywardson

... Actually I am a Harry Truman Democrat I posted this and believe in it Not all liberals are open border pussys .

Harry Truman was a Democrat but no so liberal - at least as "liberal" is used these days (Anti-American Socialist/Progressive, etc.). If you use Truman as your yardstick for liberal then there are few indeed in the current crop of the Democrat party leadership who would qualify as liberal, they have more in common with Hitler/Stalin/Mao/Pol-pot.

Like many of you, I've been around guns all of my life. Growing up, my dad made sure he taught me to treat firearms with respect. Never once did he lead me to believe that a gun was a good way to resolve a bad situation. That being said, he also taught me that sometimes a bad way out is the only way out. Is it right to shoot someone who is simply being stupid? Sadly, no. Is it right to shoot to kill in defense of property? No. But when it comes to defending your life, each of us has the right to respond with the necessary force to ensure our survival. Necessary being the key word in that last sentence. If you can escape the situation, do so. If another option is available, take it. But if it comes down to kill or be killed, we have the right to self defense. Criminals already enjoy more protection than the average citizen in the good ol' US of A. Taking away a firearm from a responsible citizen would only make it that much easier for them to make us all into victims. I, for one, hope to NEVER use a gun against another person. But, I will if there is NO OTHER CHOICE.
One other point: just because you have the right to own a firearm doesn't mean you have to go out and Rambo-ize yourself. If you don't want to own a gun, then don't own one. It's that simple.

Now that I'm pretty stoned I'd like to say a few things I didn't when I wasn't inebriated. Not because I wouldn't say them if I wasn't just that I didn't think about them. If something isn't done about the government in general here something is going to crack. My mom always told me that a government who can give you everything can also take it away. The forefathers of this country intended for the citizens of this country to over throw the government when it becomes to corrupt and/or powerful. Sadly over the time the government has simply gotten to powerful. I guess getting back to the issue at hand, it wont be long before the government tries to take your guns away. It may succeed at stopping more guns being sold but they will never take any of my guns. Which causes a problem for the people who would like to purchase a gun legally as the criminals could give a shit less about the laws. So what we are looking at is only the Good guys and bad guys having guns. No in between. It doesn't matter anyway because if we keep going at this rate I'm moving to Switzerland in the next 10 or 15 years.

Have you looked at Belize or Panama? The prospect of socialized medicine has lead me to contemplate such a move. I figure it would be more patriotic to stay and fight, but pretty soon I'd just be dead and my kids would have no father. That tends to change one's personal calculus.