Does Anyone Else Like George Bush?

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Originally posted by hellfire67878

Take away the teleprompter and speech writers and they're just as dumb as we are.

No, they're not. Perhaps a few of them have very average intelligence (GWB, Bachmann, Palin, etc), but most Presidents are very intelligent and the average US citizen is very stupid.

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Originally posted by F1098

We would have invaded Pakistan by now.

Luckily, instead, we just use our flying Nobel Peace Robots to drop freedom bombs on them. And Yemen.


As for the question, I too have a hard time separating the guy from what he did. Like, if I know a guy who's really cool to hang out with, but likes to rape babies in his spare time, well, I can't like that guy. I mean, sure, I'm not an infant, so it doesn't directly effect me, but it just can't be cool with heinous people.

But aside from that, he seems like a dude who might be cool to hang out with:

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I thank God every day that we had G Bush as President when terrorists struck on 9/11. Perfect?...no. No one is and despite voting both times for him I don't always agree with him but my God I sure do miss him...every day.

There will alway be those on both sides that hate on politicians from the other side- it just is.

But one thing about W that I respect is the fact that you never were confused about who's side he was on- Iraq war was only for oil? Don't be too blind to remeber that EVERY Democrat at the time- both Clintons, Gore, etc. was saying Saddam was a serious threat to the US and the entire middle east (and all it's oil!) and needed to be dealt with. At least W had the ballsack to do something. And make no mistake, you damn right W was acting in ALL OUR best interests.

Some say W started the iraq war because Saddam tried to assassinate HW Bush during a visit to the middle east in the 90's (a fact not debated), which, if true, makes me think he's doing the right thing by all us Americans. Whether you are Dem, Rep., Independent, etc., when a fuckboy dictator like Saddam tries to assassinate OUR big swingin' dick, we ALL should take that personally and want to vaporize that turd! If it was Clinton he wantad to off, I'd be just as bent!! There were many reasons the Iraq war happened, but to say it was Rummy and Cheney and Bush doing it just for oil is simple and incorrect.

Don't forget- Barrack O sat in a church for 20+ years listening to a man that presided at his wedding and baptized his children ( the Rev. Jeremiah Wright) who is on tape (sorry libs, no way to call me a bomb-throwin', lying teabagger) saying " God Bless America?!!! No, God DAMN America!!!!!!!!! And after 9/11, Wright said, "America's Chickens, have come home to roost!!". Who's side in this dude on? The Rev. Wright's philosophies give me a REASONABLE doubt about Obama.

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Originally posted by Elmer280

For me, I have a hard time separating what he did in office from him. Maybe it's an unfair standard, but especially only a few years removed from the Bush presidency, I think it's tough to separate any former president from that individual as a person from that individual as the president.

As a person, I'm sure he's cool shit. But I don't really care if it seems like I could get a beer with the President if he (or she) isn't going to be a good President. It doesn't bother me that Obama comes off as an intellectual because I want an intellectual in office that I feel can handle the kind of problems that come up when you're the President. I mean, I don't want the President to come off as really unlikable, but it isn't all that important to me.

No offense to your position, but clearly if a person is elected because they seem intellectual and that is equated with their being capable of handling problems that come up, then that theory is without sufficient foundation.
Obama may have seemed to many as an intellectual, but he has proved without any remaining doubts that he can't find his ass with both hands, can't make a speech (he reads pretty good, though), can't write worth a damn (his books were written by others, now a known fact), and (except for his stint as a 'community instigator' has NEVER held any position where he displayed more than elitist indifference - including the one he has now. He has no concept of how to be a leader, to be a President, to be a head of government, or to fulfill his Constitutional responsibilities and obligations. To say that he is a disappointment is equivalent to saying that vinegar is a disappointing wine.
I was never a fan of George Bush, but I had a sense of foreboding about Ozero from the earliest days of his declared candidacy. I don't have to 'like' George Bush - but I do respect him - always did. After 9/11, he had a new mission, and he cared little if he was popular, but he wanted to do what was right - which he didn't always do, mind you. I believe he is a Christian Patriot, I believe he always cared about our nation, unconditionally loves America, and was most willing an' ready to preserve, protect and defend The Constitution, which was in both the oaths of office administered to him.
I believe none of that with respect to Ozero, and nothing in his performance since 2008 has proved me wrong. He knows how to go through the motions, and mouth the correct words - when his trusty teleprompter is along - but he is as cold an' calculating as a malevolent robot. His agenda is not America's agenda, his goals are not America's goals...His motivation derives from his hate, and his quest to dismantle and utterly lay waste to America.

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Originally posted by carpman

I thank God every day that we had G Bush as President when terrorists struck on 9/11. Perfect?...no. No one is and despite voting both times for him I don't always agree with him but my God I sure do miss him...every day.

Your words of simple truth speak for millions both in America an' around the world...We not only miss his honest brand of leadership, but we need some of the qualities he displayed...Thank GOD he knew that the presidency of the United States was NOT a popularity contest but a responsibility to protect America and Americans, preserve our way of life, thwart our adversaries and defeat those who would make themselves our enemies, as well as being a source of support and friendship to our allies. Hell yeah - I do miss him.

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Originally posted by snoopy7666

...Thank GOD he knew that the presidency of the United States was NOT a popularity contest but a responsibility to protect America and Americans, preserve our way of life, thwart our adversaries and defeat those who would make themselves our enemies, as well as being a source of support and friendship to our allies. Hell yeah - I do miss him.

"Preserve our way of life?"

Come on, bro. Since 9/11 the United States has destroyed the civil liberties of US citizens left and right, all in the name of "fighting terrorism." A nation that once proclaimed it was an example for the rest of the world set up a worldwide torture regime, has killed tens of thousands of innocent people, run roughshod all over the rule of law, spies on it's own population, detains prisoners for years without ever bringing charges against them and has claimed the right to assassinate US citizens far away from any battlefield. These things are supposed to have preserved the American Way of Life?

Not to mention that by attempting to tackle all of these things, the US has managed to spend trillions of dollars it doesn't have. The greatest empires die not because they are defeated by other, stronger powers, but because they so weaken themselves by virtue of trying to maintain their empire that they collapsed from within.

That's not the "way of life" that existed before 9/11, and the US is no safer today than it was back then. Tens of thousands of new people who hate the US have been created. These people don't hate the West because of "our freedoms," they hate the US and her allies because their friends, families and loved ones have been killed by the wars being conducted on their homelands.


I hate to be the dude to shit on the coats at the cocktail party of US Nationalism going on here, but the terrorists kinda won.

Good stand-up comedian.

Like all presidents before and after him, he was never elected, anyone who believes that must also believe in fairies and santa claus, all presidents are chosen by the real powers that be, they are chosen because they do what they are told, they have no real power to make any decisions, they are a figurehead representing an administration which in turn is governed from the shadows by the money men. The same goes for every country that has a political leader, my own included, there is no such thing as a democratic country, there is only the illusion of democracy presented to the masses to make you feel like you are choosing someone and that you have a say in who runs your country when in actual fact that person has been selected from day one.

What's your next thread Honda??? Hitler was a swell guy!!!

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Originally posted by Mr_Bubbles

What's your next thread Honda??? Hitler was a swell guy!!!

"Why Casey Anthony Was Innocent All Along"

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Originally posted by EricLindros

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Since 9/11 the United States has destroyed the civil liberties of US citizens left and right, all in the name of "fighting terrorism."

Destroying civil liberties hardly started on 9/11 and it didn't end when the resident of the White House changed.

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Originally posted by EricLindros

A nation that once proclaimed it was an example for the rest of the world set up a worldwide torture regime, has killed tens of thousands of innocent people, run roughshod all over the rule of law, spies on it's own population, detains prisoners for years without ever bringing charges against them and has claimed the right to assassinate US citizens far away from any battlefield.

That also didn't start on 9/11, and it didn't end when the Bush left office. Regarding detainees and prisoners, yeah, I agree they need to be formally charged, but they're not just average American citizens the Govn't randomly decided to toss in jail for no reason. I have not a shred of doubt that there are far more innocent people wrongly imprisoned by a jury of their peers than truely "innocent" people being held by the Govnt because of involvement in terrorist activites.

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Originally posted by EricLindros

Not to mention that by attempting to tackle all of these things, the US has managed to spend trillions of dollars it doesn't have. The greatest empires die not because they are defeated by other, stronger powers, but because they so weaken themselves by virtue of trying to maintain their empire that they collapsed from within.

Yeah, we're clearly standing on the accelerator and ignoring the "Bridge Out" sign, but I think it disingenuous to assume that those dollars wouldn't have been flushed down a different shit hole had we not gone to the Middle East. Obama railed against the war(s) when he a Senator and a campaigner, yet he's been pouring cash down the war hole at a record pace as well.

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Originally posted by EricLindros

That's not the "way of life" that existed before 9/11, and the US is no safer today than it was back then. Tens of thousands of new people who hate the US have been created. These people don't hate the West because of "our freedoms," they hate the US and her allies because their friends, families and loved ones have been killed by the wars being conducted on their homelands.

Yeah, that's just not true at all. Their religion demands that they destroy their enemies; their hatred for anyone that isn't them predates the discovery of America by a year or two.

Does the American Govnt walk over individual rights far too often in the name of public interest? ABSOLUTELY. Did that start or end with Bush? Certainly not!

Bush was a good man, and a good President. As a whole, he did what the majority of Americans wanted and expected him to do.

As a soldier and a patriot, G. W. Was a great president. Think about this.... If Iraq was about oil would you be paying out your ear for gas!?! Obama is a silver tongued snake in the grass... Can't wait for election time to get rid of that idiot!

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Originally posted by brownell

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Destroying civil liberties hardly started on 9/11 and it didn't end when the resident of the White House changed.


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That also didn't start on 9/11, and it didn't end when the Bush left office. Regarding detainees and prisoners, yeah, I agree they need to be formally charged, but they're not just average American citizens the Govn't randomly decided to toss in jail for no reason. I have not a shred of doubt that there are far more innocent people wrongly imprisoned by a jury of their peers than truely "innocent" people being held by the Govnt because of involvement in terrorist activites.

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Yeah, we're clearly standing on the accelerator and ignoring the "Bridge Out" sign, but I think it disingenuous to assume that those dollars wouldn't have been flushed down a different shit hole had we not gone to the Middle East. Obama railed against the war(s) when he a Senator and a campaigner, yet he's been pouring cash down the war hole at a record pace as well.

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Yeah, that's just not true at all. Their religion demands that they destroy their enemies; their hatred for anyone that isn't them predates the discovery of America by a year or two.

Does the American Govnt walk over individual rights far too often in the name of public interest? ABSOLUTELY. Did that start or end with Bush? Certainly not!

Bush was a good man, and a good President. As a whole, he did what the majority of Americans wanted and expected him to do.

You're confusing Islam with U.S foreign policy.

EVERYTHING you've said is spoon fed propaganda.
You're really should stop believing what any government or Fox news, tell you.

Bush only did what the American public wanted. Well the American people only want what the Government tell them to want.
The American public is suckled from the tit of hatred and ignorance so follow the government like sheep!!

The Koran actually tells people that it's a sin to kill. It's basic values are the same the bible and it's also as vague and contradictory as the bible. How they're both interpreted says more about the person reading than the actual Religion; Both are used to preach peace, love, hatred, war and patriotism.

*moved to The Panel forum*

he might have made a lot of mistakes and lots of people may not really like him but i know he really loves this country. and he's kinda a gilf. not gonna lie.

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he might have made a lot of mistakes and lots of people may not really like him but i know he really loves this country. and he's kinda a gilf. not gonna lie.

Gilf???? Grandmother you'd like to fuck!!???

Yeah Hitler loved Germany. This Neo-patriatism indoctrination endemic in America has disturbing parallels Nazi Germany.

The arrogance, the superior race syndrome, the feeling that you have the right to bulldoze into other countries with the gun and the dollar and do your will. Then you wonder why other countries hate you and what to seek retribution.

Bush loved his country.....so the fuck what. His actions have lead to many deaths and his legacy of hatred and belligerence will lead to many more. You kill Mohammed and his friends and children will come and seek vengence. HISTORY TELL US THAT. You think that there aren't plotting another 9/11??? It'll come!! ...and the wars will start all over again.

George Bush a great patriot, deluded, arrogant, ignorant, a murderer, a war criminal and absolutely EVIL; but that's ok
Because he's an American President and what he did he did he did for god's country 'America'.

Ain't gonna Lie!!!

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Originally posted by Mr_Bubbles

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EVERYTHING you've said is spoon fed propaganda.

Conspiracy theory much?


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Originally posted by Mr_Bubbles

]The Koran actually tells people that it's a sin to kill. It's basic values are the same the bible and it's also as vague and contradictory as the bible. How they're both interpreted says more about the person reading than the actual Religion; Both are used to preach peace, love, hatred, war and patriotism.

I never said Islam promotes terrorism, I said their hatred stems from "their religion" A christian that bombs an abortion clinic isn't going to end up in heaven any more than a muslim that shouts "Allahu Akbar" as they press the detonator.

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Originally posted by brownell

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Conspiracy theory much?


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I never said Islam promotes terrorism, I said their hatred stems from "their religion" A christian that bombs an abortion clinic isn't going to end up in heaven any more than a muslim that shouts "Allahu Akbar" as they press the detonator.

What??? That politicians lie and the media have a politic agenda. Control the media you control the people??

Not heard about what's been going on in Briton with Rupert Murdoch? or that he's going to be investigated by the FBI??

Some pretty thick cloud you have your head there!!

Yes and the American Army invade countries and kill in the Name of America and God!!!! Just the opposite side of the same coin as Islamic extremists.

Personally Bush is alright.

Though, are we talking 2011 Bush or like 1970s Bush? From what I've heard 1970's Bush knew how to fuckin' party. I mean 2011 Bush will probably be cool to watch a game with -- he'd probably even bring over the good beer without anyone having to ask him. I bet he knows a lot of dirty jokes too and does that awesome move where he subtly looks both ways to make sure there are no chicks or Jews or black dudes around before he tells one. I bet too, like after the game while the party is winding down and there are maybe 5 people still there, tired and spread out on couches, he'd start into stories about cows giving birth on the ranch or just some crazy top secret shit where he had to blow someone the fuck up. And when everyone is in the twilight of a solid buzz that has got to be the best possible way to end an evening right?

That said, 1970's Bush would probably insist on doing blow from between your girlfriends tits.

Really depends on what your into. I'm gonna give 2011 Bush a thumbs up though.

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Originally posted by Mr_Bubbles

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What??? That politicians lie and the media have a politic agenda. Control the media you control the people??

You can't argue that politicians control the media when there's left leaning media and right leaning media, and they both agree that there bad people out there that want to kill innocent people in the name of Allah.

Well, you can argue it, but it takes a conscience willingness to ignore the fact that current technology allows for current events to be broadcast live. If you want to believe it's all fabricated and manufactured, that's between you and the voices in your head.