Do You Think Organ Donation After Death Should Be Mandatory?

Do You Think Organ Donation After Death Should Be Mandatory?

A lot of people die..I mean, it probably happens AT LEAST once a week.

So, imagine you're doing something stupid...(Demo wont have to try hard) and you die, or you just randomly die...either way, dead. In your death you could save others......it's an option now, that most people decline.


If it became mandatory...how would you feel?

Do you think it should be?

Are you currently an organ donor?

What are your thoughts on the subject?


Protip: Do not google organ donation, you'll be overwhelmed with faggotry.

Hell, if it were mandatory...and Demo got into an accident, his organs might end up in a hot girl.....which would never happen otherwise.


Id uhh...ID LIKE...umm...Donate my penis and stuff..L0L

What do you think, meatbags?

No.

I'm not an organ donor because I don't like the system they have set up. I'd donate if they paid the donor, or even the donor's family after death, for the organs. But as it is now, the organ donor gives everything up for free, and then the doctors and nurses and techs get paid to transplant them, the hospitals get paid for the operating rooms, the organ transport teams get paid for transporting the organs quickly, etc. Everyone gets paid, except the person who actually made the real sacrifice. It's nonsense. If people are going to get paid because of my organs, my family sure as shit better be getting in on that action.

Plus, if you paid for organs you'd get a lot more donors, especially for non-vital things, like lobes of your liver (which can regenerate).

I also have the same opinion on blood donation.

The donors don't get paid for that stuff, but you do get paid for plasma donation, semen donation, and medical testing. It's weird how random and nonsensical the whole system is.

So, no, not until they start paying the donors.

Fair enough..how much money to your family would it take before you considered being an organ donor?

Not a lot. A few grand for larger organs. Like $50-100 for a pint of blood.


The organs could pay for funeral expenses or whatever for people who've died.

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Originally posted by EricLindros

No.

I'm not an organ donor because I don't like the system they have set up. I'd donate if they paid the donor, or even the donor's family after death, for the organs. But as it is now, the organ donor gives everything up for free, and then the doctors and nurses and techs get paid to transplant them, the hospitals get paid for the operating rooms, the organ transport teams get paid for transporting the organs quickly, etc. Everyone gets paid, except the person who actually made the real sacrifice. It's nonsense. If people are going to get paid because of my organs, my family sure as shit better be getting in on that action.

Plus, if you paid for organs you'd get a lot more donors, especially for non-vital things, like lobes of your liver (which can regenerate).

I also have the same opinion on blood donation.

The donors don't get paid for that stuff, but you do get paid for plasma donation, semen donation, and medical testing. It's weird how random and nonsensical the whole system is.

So, no, not until they start paying the donors.

Yeah, I don't see it as a sacrifice...you're dead...you were gonna be dead anyway. You didn't die to save that person, you died because you drove to fast, or choked on a cherry pit, or got shot by a serial killer. If there was an sacrifice, it was made before death, not after.

Also, I think paying for organs potentially opens up the door for desperate, suicidal people to off themselves just for the money to help out their family.

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Originally posted by Sugarpie

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Yeah, I don't see it as a sacrifice...you're dead...you were gonna be dead anyway. You didn't die to save that person, you died because you drove to fast, or choked on a cherry pit, or got shot by a serial killer. If there was an sacrifice, it was made before death, not after.

Also, I think paying for organs potentially opens up the door for desperate, suicidal people to off themselves just for the money to help out their family.

First, like I said, there are renewable things, like livers and bone marrow and blood, etc, that people can give while they're still alive.

As to the second point, people already kill themselves. All the time. It might as well be nice for their family to get something out of it to help defray the costs of burial/cremation/funeral/etc.

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Originally posted by EricLindros

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First, like I said, there are renewable things, like livers and bone marrow and blood, etc, that people can give while they're still alive.

As to the second point, people already kill themselves. All the time. It might as well be nice for their family to get something out of it to help defray the costs of burial/cremation/funeral/etc.

But by your logic, you should make bank for a heart, or lungs. I hear what you're saying, and I'm not 100% opposed to your idea, I think it just potentially opens up a can of worms that we may not want opened.

I've been listed as an organ donor for as long as I can remember.

I mean, c'mon, once I'm dead, they won't be much good to me anyway.

Can't say anyone's really gonna be thrilled when they get my liver or kidneys though, been filtering an ungodly amount of alcohol for way too long.

I agree with Lindros regarding the donations that can be done while still alive, up the ante and put a dollar amount on it and you'd probably have a lot more donations happening.

Currently, I'm a somewhat regular blood donor. I've got that universal blood type that can go to anybody. And since I don't ever donate money to anything charitable, I figure this is my way of helping out.

The real issue for me is how the definition of death has been redefined to feed the transplant industry, which is (literally) rapacious in it's hunger for raw material.

If you want to be an organ donor, you MUST define the conditions under which your death is defined so that your heirs or family can fend off the doctors who want to pull your plug.

Sounds simple, this idea of death or clinical death or brain dead, or.... But it is absolutely not, as doctors now have such flexible definitions ( yes that is plural) of death that they are waiting for ya. This is a business after all, and it is quite competitive.

It is not about saving life and idealism my friends. It is all about the money and I have recently changed my status with the DMV ( here in California where we have our donor status on our drivers license) so for the dime being....I am not in the program.

Mandatory - No.
Voluntarily - Yes. I'm an organ donor on my drivers license as are my family to help others.
Institutionally/governmental - It already is via abortion and embryonic stem cell lines.
Abortion = infanticide = reduced human value=people are meat=reduced value of life
And I'm not even getting into the contemporary quasi-eugenics issue here...

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Originally posted by EricLindros

So, no, not until they start paying the donors.

So, if I had the ONE thing that could save your sorry life and I said...what's it worth to you pay up sucka?
And you couldn't pay up.
And no one in your family or so called friends would toss in anything to keep you alive fund to the highest bidder.
But I would give it to you for free because I...care.
Your choice?

I'd feel a little rustled if someone else was allowed to make a decision like that. The current laws are ok although people should be allowed to sell their own organs if they want, and if a body has no license or next of kin then use it. I'm a donor, take whatevers worth keeping and burn the rest. It'd be cool to still have pieces of me getting around doing marvelous things in various places after my death. If someone's making money out of it though, I want my death expenses paid.

I currently have Chronic Kidney Disease, and have to go to Dialysis 3 x per week. I am currently on the Donor List to get a new Kidney.

People who "need" organs, to sustain life understand what it is to donate organs, more than those who don't have to have one. If you are in need of one to LIVE, then you appreciate life more, and appreciate it when people donate organs, even if you aren't the recepient.

I personally know of [3] people who have had Kidney transplants, two this year alone. You can't imagine how happy they are and how full their lives are. We can't charge for organs, that would be the same as a 3rd world country where you can go buy organs.

They system that is set up here, in the U.S., is by far not perfect, but it is the best we have.

My free spirit would hate to see it mandatory.
I am a voluntary organ and I freely give what some needful person can use.

I am happy to donate my organs, my Mum really doesn't like the idea but she understands my feelings. When I'm gone I won't have any use for them so they may as well have them. The only things they can't take are my eyes, as that was something i promised my Mum. My organs could help 5 or more people have a better life.
Should it be mandatory? Yes, people should have to opt out. Instead of carrying a donor card, carry a refusal card. Not everyone's organs can be used. An alcoholics Liver wouldn't be much good or a heavy smokers Lungs but maybe other organs could be used.

I may have upset some people with my opinion but that's the way I feel.

ok so i know this is NOT on topic, and i'm not even going to get into this subject. but..

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Originally posted by rower41

Abortion = infanticide = reduced human value=people are meat=reduced value of life

seriously?

















moving on from that bullshit to the actual topic. i would not like it being mandatory, mostly because it seems like your hand is being forced regarding your own body and also there are some religions with certain organ donation limitations. and being that everyone who was ever religious believes their religion is undeniably right and true, it just seems like a shitty thing to do to people.

i am listed as an organ donor, as others have said once i'm dead i certainly dont have any use for them.


i think Lindbros has a point regarding the compensation for things that can be donated while still living, but the reason all of those people/places are charging money for those organ donations/transplants is because it COSTS money. i hardly think we can expect hospitals/organizations/doctors to cover the costs for nothing, its just too expensive and it wouldnt work. however, it does not cost you anything to donate your organs which you have no use for and WILL save or improve someones life.

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Originally posted by jono-smith

Should it be mandatory? Yes, people should have to opt out. Instead of carrying a donor card, carry a refusal card. Not everyone's organs can be used. An alcoholics Liver wouldn't be much good or a heavy smokers Lungs but maybe other organs could be used.

I may have upset some people with my opinion but that's the way I feel.

I pretty much agree with that.
Or something like : when you reach majority, the choice is given to you by institution (with possibility to change whenever you want). Bringing to choice to people instead of the opposite would be a good way to increase the number of donors without upsetting those who don't want to.


About the money part, there are so many ways to turn this into a mess that I'm not sure it would be 100% a good idea, even if I understand the point. People can do so many freaky stuff when it comes to money...

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Originally posted by FeFeHumHum

ok so i know this is NOT on topic, and i'm not even going to get into this subject. but..
[wtf quote]
seriously?

You're not the only one cringing on this one

@ omuh - i knew we'd get along just fine, you and me

@ Rower41,

good comments I pretty much agree straight across the board.

I do like the idea of making people opt-out.

I have no issue with people selling a regenerative organ, but I don't like the pay-after-death idea. Suicide rates, I do not believe, will be much affected, but the murder rate could skyrocket. Just something I don't like about knowing a family member could cut my brake lines to get out a financial jamb.

Why is no one mentioning stem cell research to avoid this shit ?