Is sharking banned?

Are filmed depicting 'Sharking' banned and if not can I request that they are??

The filming of girls have their skirts(and sometimes more) pulled up/down, is surely sexual assault.
These films are probably illegal and most certainly immoral.

One of these movies has just appeared in the gallery and i've seem them in the movie forum, and as a long time member, I don't think this the sort of thing we should be associating ourselves with!!

Agreed.

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Originally posted by 11111111112

Agreed.

yeah, agreed

A lot of shit gets added that shouldnt. I don't think its formally banned, but it's not openly welcomed.

Agreed. Attacks on women should not be tolerated.

Thats a really good point, but the same case can be argued about the entire spycam/voyeur section. If my memory serves me correctly it has been argued, and dismissed. I am a legal professional and in my state sharking is unfortunately not illegal. Don't get me wrong, there may be a judge who would let a sexual battery trial run for this type of activity. Like I said, I'm not condoning the activity, I think its a terrible thing to do to a person and it can have the same mental and emotional effects as rape. Overall I agree with you Mr_Bubbles but if this is wrong, can you argue that videoing women without their knowledge and consent is okay?

I agree too, I do not like vids like that.

just my 2 cents.

Where the hell does the term 'sharking' come from?

I don't see the appeal in ripping off an unwilling chick's clothes. Kind of a douchebag move, but there are tons of douchebags, so I'm sure more than a few people enjoy this crap.

Discuss morals in a porn forum? Dangerous and disturbing, this is. Meditate on this, I will.

I agree!

Agree I!

I don't like the voyuer or spycam vids either. I think those are tasteless and give the wrong impression.

That falls more into the realm of a fetish, and this is not a fetish site. This is good clean porn for mature adults who just happen to like the female form. I much prefer a woman who knows and is either posed or showing off for the camera - that's fun for me, and it makes it an entirely different thing than sneaking around stealing pics of a woman's breasts or panties.

Moral: Appreciating a beautiful woman with her consent for mutual enjoyment.

Immoral: Anything you wouldn't want done to your mother/sister/daughter/wife.

Personally, I think this entire class of photo should be prohibited, but I know there'd be a huge outcry if I asserted it very often.

I appreciate the female form. I do not appreciate these other types of "pornography."

While it seems like a small difference at first glance, there's a significant difference in the motive and reasons in my mind. I would happily tell a police man that I like looking at naked girls. I would probably not be so thrilled to state to that same cop that I enjoy sneaking photos of women's underwear or vaginas without their consent, nor would I be proud to tell the cop that I enjoy surprising women, forcibly removing their panties, and forcing myself on them.

It seems a small difference, but these are two entirely different worlds. One is a woman and is art. The other is a fetish and is ... Something other than art.

That's my feeling on it anyway.

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Originally posted by Tarquin

I don't like the voyuer or spycam vids either. I think those are tasteless and give the wrong impression.

That falls more into the realm of a fetish, and this is not a fetish site. This is good clean porn for mature adults who just happen to like the female form. I much prefer a woman who knows and is either posed or showing off for the camera - that's fun for me, and it makes it an entirely different thing than sneaking around stealing pics of a woman's breasts or panties.

Moral: Appreciating a beautiful woman with her consent for mutual enjoyment.

Immoral: Anything you wouldn't want done to your mother/sister/daughter/wife.

Personally, I think this entire class of photo should be prohibited, but I know there'd be a huge outcry if I asserted it very often.

I appreciate the female form. I do not appreciate these other types of "pornography."

While it seems like a small difference at first glance, there's a significant difference in the motive and reasons in my mind. I would happily tell a police man that I like looking at naked girls. I would probably not be so thrilled to state to that same cop that I enjoy sneaking photos of women's underwear or vaginas without their consent, nor would I be proud to tell the cop that I enjoy surprising women, forcibly removing their panties, and forcing myself on them.

It seems a small difference, but these are two entirely different worlds. One is a woman and is art. The other is a fetish and is ... Something other than art.

That's my feeling on it anyway.

I don't really buy this argument, for the most part. This is not an art site. A chick with a dick in her ass and one in her mouth covered in a bucket of ejaculate is not art, even by the Potter Stuart's loosest definition.

Further, many of the "voyeur" pics of chicks in tanning beds, changing rooms, etc. are done with the women fully aware of the situation. While there are probably some that originate from the devious deeds of a few creepy perverts, I would say that they're the minority.

Not that I necessarily care for them, either.



Anyway, saying you're here for the "artform" of the naked female body is like saying you ordered a pizza because you were in need of a 16x16 flat box.

Voyeur videos, at least generally, are legal if there is no sound included with the clip.

That might have changed, the lawyer can clarify on that.

I'm not a bit fan of voyeur videos. But I disagree on just about every level with Tarquin's argument.

However, sharking is not considered voyeurism in my book. Like Punly said, it's not banned, but not encouraged. So my hat goes into the ring of agreeing, and banning those videos.

Just at a glance, I misread the title as "Is sharing banned?".




Fuck!! I certainly hope not!!

I am certainly not a lawyer, but I feel that sharking is different from voyeurism for one huge reason, it is physical. Sharking involves sexual battery to me, when someone puts their hands on another and forces their clothes off/down. Voyeurism is similar, but it is hands off. The person being voyeured takes his/her own clothes off on their own terms. Sure you shouldn't be watching but there is no force.

Are they both "wrong," yes. But certainly if there are degrees of "wrong" sharking takes the cake.

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Originally posted by EricLindros

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I don't really buy this argument, for the most part. This is not an art site. A chick with a dick in her ass and one in her mouth covered in a bucket of ejaculate is not art, even by the Potter Stuart's loosest definition.

Further, many of the "voyeur" pics of chicks in tanning beds, changing rooms, etc. are done with the women fully aware of the situation. While there are probably some that originate from the devious deeds of a few creepy perverts, I would say that they're the minority.

Not that I necessarily care for them, either.



Anyway, saying you're here for the "artform" of the naked female body is like saying you ordered a pizza because you were in need of a 16x16 flat box.

Well, I can understand your skepticism. That's all fine. I still draw a line between "normal porn" and "fetish porn" and it's hard to argue that the spycam/voyeur/shark pics aren't fetish porn. In fact, I don't see how it could be anything other than a fetish.

That's more to the topic.

As for your skepticism of my take on it, again I understand your skepticism. I think a quick look at my favorites will support that, however. I'm pretty selective, and most of the girls (the vast majority actually) are fully clothed. I choose them based off my own set of attributes - but no, I really am not here for the "porn." I can get "virtual sex" on cable, off a torrent site, or from my own imagination. I really am here to see beautiful women, because I find them pleasing to look at.

I realize this may put me in the minority - which is something I acknowledged above, but it is indeed an accurate statement of what I look for in terms of pics on the site, and I'm probably not the only one.

Whether we consider any of the girls on this site to be art or not doesn't really have much to do with the base argument though. The types of pics we're talking about most certainly are a fetish, and they most certainly do cross a new line of morality and ethics - one that most of the pictures on this site do not.

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Originally posted by Mr_Bubbles

Are filmed depicting 'Sharking' banned and if not can I request that they are??

The filming of girls have their skirts(and sometimes more) pulled up/down, is surely sexual assault.
These films are probably illegal and most certainly immoral.

One of these movies has just appeared in the gallery and i've seem them in the movie forum, and as a long time member, I don't think this the sort of thing we should be associating ourselves with!!

is there any way you could PM me the link so it could be removed?

I don't know much about this sharking thing but it kinda sounds like rape (or just simulated or w/e you wanna call it) Some girls have a fetish for being forced to do things thus why they want the guy to take charge and rip clothes, rape, etc. Note that I am not at all a fan of this and think it is wrong. However I believe that people are entitled to what they wish to do so long as its legal. Now unless there is a legal reason for it to be banned it seems to me that "sharking" has just as much place on this site as "Sexy Babes" or Webcams or anything really for that matter. My suggestion might be to keep these closely monitered and possibly even set up a separate thread for those people who really don't wish to see that stuff which seems like a majority. It could even be a "Risque Thread" or somthing along those lines.

Well, except the site (I always thought at least) has a "No fetish, just normal shit" policy.

The thing is guys, that I speak about WBW and people ask where I get my pics and what web communities I am a part of. I don't at all mind mentioning WBW, and if I share the pics I keep the logo on them on purpose.

I'm not at all uncomfortable with sharing the fact that I am part of this community, and I even brag about it now and then. The people are cool, and it's good, clean, legal, moral and ethical fun.

Those kinds of fetishes, even if "most of the girls" consented to it - some did not - and it is certainly meant to depict the girl's participation as non-consentual.

That is not good clean fun to me, and it is not something I would brag about. That's not something I would want in a community I would want to be a part of (if it were a major facet of it) - much less openly tell people I am a part of.

I like being able to say, "My web hang-out is WBW."

If it starts being associated with this type of material then I will most certainly have to re-evaluate my current position about it.