Current "sponsor" prices

Ready1 - of course he does. Why else would he be so ignorant?

Brownstain - I was referring to that being a good option for WBW to make some money from those who can't afford the full membership IF YOU READ what I typed you wouldn't currently look like an idiot from my point of view.
A trial membership is offered by 99% of ALL sites offering porn, there is a BIG reason for this. I sense you are not very intelligent to be acting like a complete dick to me after trying to work out ways that the entire community here at WBW can profit and/or be happy with the prices and pricing options available. If you do not care about my ideas then I suggest you go away and keep your opinions to yourself.

Sumo999 - Maybe because I only just started actually visiting this website? Clever boy.

Also I don't under stand how using an add blocker would effect the way you profit, if an add pops up I don't care where it's from It's not gonna get my service no matter how you look at it.

I will never and never have put money into a computer, it's ridiculous.

Yeah, that may be the case for alot of people. But if they get 1000 clicks over a period of a week each of which is 5c profit, that is still 50 bucks. 50 bucks is better than nothing.

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Originally posted by ready1

just a question = do guys like brownell profit from whatboyswant?

No.

The moderators do not get any financial compensation. They do get sponsor membership privileges, in order to be able to see all the photos and movies and such that they are moderating. The coding/development crew does get paid, but they're generally an entirely separate group of people from the forum moderators.


*Thread Cleaned*

Lets keep the childish name calling outta this thread, folks. If you can't discuss something like a mature person, perhaps you ought not comment at all.

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Originally posted by stevles

of course he does. Why else would he be so ignorant?

Sorry, but you're mistaken. None of the regular mods get paid for helping here. And what exactly did I say that caused you to call me ignorant?

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Originally posted by stevies

Brownstain

Nice

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Originally posted by stevies

IF YOU READ what I typed you wouldn't currently look like an idiot from my point of view

I read everything you've written in this thread, I understand your point of view, but I think your expectation are pretty unrealistic, (ie $1 for 3 days of access to premium features)

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Originally posted by stevies

A trial membership is offered by 99% of ALL sites offering porn, there is a BIG reason for this

Really? Would that be anything like the free account you're posting from now that allows you full access to all the porn that's posted in the forums, or are you really suggesting that most websites (porn or otherwise) give away free access to their premium features?

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Originally posted by stevies

I sense you are not very intelligent to be acting like a complete dick...

If not agreeing with you about the logistics and economics of your request makes me un-intelligent and a dick in your view. I guess I can't argue with that

Yes, I know $5/mo doesn't sound that great when looking at the current monthly cost for when you buy it for a year but the problem is I can't just fork over $78 USD all at once. However $5/mo at a month by month basis, I can do.

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Originally posted by sumo999

intead of moaning about the price why dont you start uploading content and earn credits. that way you get your credits and your making the site bigger and better for everyone

A lot of people don't know their ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to computers or surfing the net. So ya your comment sucks ass IMO.

Brownell - I apologise for calling you ignorant, a dick and brownstain (though i admittedly did giggle at that).
My point about the trial was not to be a definite price it was just purely an example of another option that is available. Of course you could make the trial $5 for 1 day or $10 for 3 days or whatever.. I just wanted to give the idea not to push it. Definitely not intended as expectations thats for sure.
I'm sorry if that is how it came across.

To EricLindros, thanks for cleaning the thread. Honest to god I have no idea why people must straight away jump to abusing people for no good reason. Ah well, at least I know if and/or when I sign up I'll have decent moderators watching over the forum!

This thread is boring. The prices are what they are. Even if the people who run the site were charging $100 p/year and were living in luxury because of it, what business of ours is that? Nothing is hidden from you, you get told the price upfront and what you get for said price. If you don't think it's worth it, that's your call and I'm sure there are many people who agree. On the flipside there are many people who have signed up for the membership based on the current price so why would it be lowered?
As you can see, I'm not a sponsor member but I try to contribute to the site to make it better. One day I might sign up but at present I don't feel the need. A few of the moderators have tried to give explanations based on fact but just get either ignored or childish name-calling in return. What sort of discussion is this?!

! What sort of business is this of ours? You do realize what the CONCEPT of forums and businesses is right?
Seriously dude, what a ridiculous opinion.

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Originally posted by stevles

! What sort of business is this of ours? You do realize what the CONCEPT of forums and businesses is right?
Seriously dude, what a ridiculous opinion.

Yes, I fully understand the concept of a forum and also that of a business, but what that has to with what I said, well you've lost me. What I meant was, say you found out each of the mods made a pretty penny out of this site, it shouldn't change your opinion of whether or not the site content is worth it's current price.

WORTH. EVERY. PENNY.

Yes I realize that is in all caps.

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Originally posted by jhope1

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Yes, I fully understand the concept of a forum and also that of a business, but what that has to with what I said, well you've lost me. What I meant was, say you found out each of the mods made a pretty penny out of this site, it shouldn't change your opinion of whether or not the site content is worth it's current price.

You realize that has absolutely NOTHING to do with what this thread is about? This thread is not about whether the owners of WBW make money or not. That would, as you said, have nothing to do with us. This topic IS about whether or not the content is worth the price tag.
Way to read a thread before commenting.

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Originally posted by CIZZO

I'm not saying your prices are not reasonable, but one thing that might help is adding a few more options. I cannot afford $78 a year or even $17 for a month (even though I do agree that it's pretty cheap). I'm thinking an affordable price would be around $5/mo that could buy us a given number of credits for movies priced according to the amount of bandwidth the movies take. I feel like there are many other individuals in my position that, although are very interested in the movies, we can't afford these prices but would be completely willing to pay around $5 for access based on credits. This option could not only draw in customers who can't afford the full priced service, but alleviate some of the cost of bandwidth. Another idea would be to charge for x amount of credits, instead of a month-by-month charge.

Actually that does sound very viable, maybe something to the tune of $5 a month for 100 credits. A pay-per-credit on the other hand would be a logistical nightmare with our merchant accounts. We may discuss this further amongst the crew.

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Originally posted by stevles

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Wouldn't you lower the prices so that it is more affordable and more people will jump on the band wagon? If the sponsorship numbers were declining, raising the price would just decrease the total number of sponsors even further.. Even if you were offering $60usd a year instead of the current $78 (a measly $18 discount) it still looks so much more appealing than the current price.

Well, we have had quite a few internal debates about this. I agree it does make it far less attractive, but at the moment we don’t the cash reserves to continue operations. The prices have gone up to cover the increase in operational costs.

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Edit: An afterthought. A trial membership! Say you spend $1 on a 3 day trial, and then if you sign up to a full year membership from that, you get the full year for $77usd (because you already paid the $1 for the trial)
This would allow people to see what you get with the full access without actually having to sign up to a yearly membership.

Yeah, on the grounds of cost that would just not be feasible. A single dollar for a three day trial? That could easily cost us way too much, three days of almost a 500kb/s? You could easily download well over 20GB of data a day.

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Originally posted by ready1

just a question = do guys like brownell profit from whatboyswant?

Right now he only gets the scraps tossed out from the local Cantonese place. We don’t have enough cash flow to even pay the four people at the actual office a living wage. Although Dizzy won’t admit it, we are pretty sure he is selling himself in the Redlight District to afford eating.

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Originally posted by ready1

Also I don't under stand how using an add blocker would effect the way you profit, if an add pops up I don't care where it's from It's not gonna get my service no matter how you look at it.

I will never and never have put money into a computer, it's ridiculous.

Okay, you don’t understand how ads work? For every http request back to an ad server, we get a fraction of a penny for that view of that image on our site. You wouldn’t have to click anything, but we would still get a little something. But ad-blockers disable the visitor’s browser from making that request to the ad server. Right now, so many people are blocking the ads we are barely bringing in $120 a month off of it. The plan was to use, our expected profit from the ads to pay the bills, but so many people have blocked them it barely puts a dent in it.

Yeah, ads are on sites for a reason.

We never went or intended to go the route of pop-ups, annoying flash banners with audio, or pop-unders. We just do a simple loading of a simple .gif image.

Also, are you telling us that you didn’t pay for your computer? You stole it? And the software on it? You might not want to readily admit to piracy.

I think its worth it, its going on two years that I've been here and I had a 6 month membership, for the movies alone I thought it was worth it........I'm about due for another sponsor membership but I'm fairly broke at the moment

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Originally posted by stevles

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You realize that has absolutely NOTHING to do with what this thread is about? This thread is not about whether the owners of WBW make money or not. That would, as you said, have nothing to do with us. This topic IS about whether or not the content is worth the price tag.
Way to read a thread before commenting.

Oh good God. I'm aware what the thread is about, but do you not think that whether or not the site is or isn't worth the membership cost depends on each individuals opinion as well as their disposable income? Just because person A can't afford it doesn't mean person B can't. I just wasn't sure what you were hoping to get out if the thread? And why do you always go on the defensive when someone offers a comment?

I'm aware what the thread is about, but do you not think that whether or not the site is or isn't worth the membership cost depends on each individuals opinion as well as their disposable income? I just wasn't sure what you were hoping to get out if the thread?

-jhope1


Yes, thus being the entire point of a forum. To post opinions on different subjects and to hear what other people have to say on the matter. This also being the point of this thread.

I'm not being defensive I'm merely trying to work out why you are posting garbled nonsense.

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Originally posted by Kanzen

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Yeah, on the grounds of cost that would just not be feasible. A single dollar for a three day trial? That could easily cost us way too much, three days of almost a 500kb/s? You could easily download well over 20GB of data a day.

It seems people didn't understand me on that one.
The numbers in that were purely example.
$x for x amount of days. The point I was trying to get across was for the trial period, not for the prices.

Kanzen's point, with regard to the trials, is that it would allow - and actually encourage - people to cram as use of credits/downloads/system resources as possible in a very short period of time. It would likely cost the site much more money than it would bring in.

You could limit the downloads as well then