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What's up with Israel?

Starter: Poida Posted: 10 years ago Views: 4.1K
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#4866402
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In 1975, by its resolution 3376 the General Assembly established the Committee on the Exercise of the Inalienable Rights of the Palestinian people regardless of the fact that all documents on so called “Palestinians” have been forged by Russian KGB in 1960s. At that time, Secretary-General of the United Nations was Kurt Waldheim.

So, the question is why this resolution emerged in 1975 and how is it associate with Kurt Waldheim? The analysis of historic documents revealed two undeniable facts:

Fact 1. In 1920s-30s, Palestinian Muslims committed massacre of Jews in occupied Israel murdering thousands of children and civilians. The murder was organized by the founder and supreme leader of the Arab Higher Committee, Haj Amin al Husseini, the Mufti of Jerusalem, and supported by British Administration of Palestine. The primary objective was elimination of all Jews from Historic Israel land. The massacre was, in reality, the Holocaust committed by Palestinian Arabs.

Haj Amin was a close friend of Hitler. In 1941, Haj Amin came to Berlin and visited Hitler. He brought the Holocaust idea to Hitler. In 1943, Amin organized Bosnian Muslim battalions in Croatia comprising some twenty thousand men. The battalions were put in Waffen-SS units, fought Yugoslav partisans in Bosnia. Thousands of Serbs, Roma ('Gypsies' and Jews hunted down by Haj Amin's SS troops were killed by those same troops, or they were sent to the Islamic death camp Jasenovac. After the WWII, the International tribunal declared Haj Amin war criminal; however, he escaped prosecution (thanks to Britain), fled to Egypt and then Palestine where he organized Fatah; Arafat was Haj Amin’s deputy. Under Amin’s and Arafat’s leadership, Fatah committed numerous crimes around the world including: planes and ships hijacking; murders; thievery. Thousands were killed, mostly Americans and Israelis, tens of thousands were injured. After Amin died in 1974, Arafat became a Fatah commander. He organized PLO. Thus, PLO and Fatah were created by people close to Nazi and based on Nazi ideology.

Fact 2. Kurt Waldheim was a #$%$ officer in WWII, committed numerous crimes in Europe and responsible for death of thousands of Europeans. He is a war criminal.

These two facts clearly show that the Palestinian issue was introduced to commemorate Nazi-Palestinian Muslims unbreakable criminal collaboration and to recognize PLO-Fatah as Nazi successor. After 1975, every Secretary General, including the current, and entire UN staff uphold Nazi legacy of Kurt Waldheim.

UN authorities that have lead UN after Kurt Waldheim, including current, shall be held responsible for promoting elimination of Israel from the map, stealing Jewish historic land and distortion of the truthful history of Jewish people resulted in persecution, including murder, of Jews around the world. We need a Nuremberg Tribunal on UN to put UN authorities on trial and prosecution, including death penalty.

Total extermination of Fatah, PLO and Palestinian islam-fascists is only mean to peace and stability in the world.
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#4866411
Lvl 18
But the world needs Israel or God will never come back. It says so in the book. So they get to do what they want.
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#4866943
Lvl 4
I just can't figure out where this part of the book fits in with the current scenario, maybe I am dumb as a rock.

6 “You shall not murder.
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#4866959
Lvl 20
I'm shocked by all the "scholars" on here who just seem to not give a shit about the number of children that have been killed. Again no one is arguing that Israel should exist but every pro Israeli seems to think a non Israeli life has no meaning
#4866960
Lvl 15
the president of Israel said it right.. if the rest of the world doesn't help them get rid of these terrorists, tomorrow they will be knocking on your door. This whole middle east terror things people need to take notice of. So far they have toppled 3-4 countries, and rue in a handful of others. They ensure everyone lives in fear so things are as the terrorists think they should be. Those who don't want to live that lifestyle or religion are branded traders and the consequence is "death by sword". They have tried a few things in north America but the legal system and the fact here we are all on camera somehow 24-7 helps keep them in check. They are coming, people need to be prepared, and the rest of the western world should keep a very watchful eye on these people. Why we have so many government spying on it's citizens.. in my mind, the gov can spy all they want on what I do as long as they keep these mornons away from here.
#4866968
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Originally posted by SmellMyCheese
I'm shocked by all the "scholars" on here who just seem to not give a shit about the number of children that have been killed. Again no one is arguing that Israel should exist but every pro Israeli seems to think a non Israeli life has no meaning


Yea pretty bad that Hamas is hiding behind women and children. Hamas made everyone a target by building all those elaborate tunnels to Israel. Israel told everyone to leave. Hamas told them to stay. Yes war is terrible. Horrible that people get killed in Wars. Lots of children were killed in WW-2 also. The alternative was to let the world be ruled by ruthless dictators. Just my opinion
#4866986
Lvl 18
I am not a Bible thumper, people of religion are phonies for the most part, all they care about is themselves. If there is a god this world would be a better place. You cannot go out and Kill people/ woman and children no matter what side you are on and say it is the name God.
#4867008
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I don't think Israel has mention God as a reason for this war or as a defense for this war. I think they are just defending their people against terrorist. Terrorist so rotten that they hide behind women and children
#4867013
Lvl 20
Nightcruiser you seem to take everything good said about Israel as gospel truth but on the simple say so others but not of Hamas. At least I can say I don't trust Hamas and I don't trust Israel but as bad as Hamas is Israel doesn't really hold the lives of Palestinians (be it non European Jews, Christians or Muslims) also if the table were turned and Israel's were building tunnels and such you would be saying they just defending themselves. Proves my point that you refuse to see the blood on Israel's hand simply because it isn't israeli blood

Just saying
#4867015
Lvl 4
I think Israel is wrong to build settlements .I think there should be a Palestinian state. I think Palestinians should be treated as equals. I don't think Hamas is helping them achieve these goals. Hamas wants the total destruction of Israel and that is it. The Palestinians are therefore guilty by association. Israel doesn't have tunnels so that is a mute point
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#4867016
Lvl 20
So that means they children and babies should get killed does it. Point remains if Palestine were treated better then people like Hamas wouldn't have got a foothold. While I respect your views you seem to have blinkers on and naively think this is all one sided and black and white

You mention they should be be treated equally have their own state but they never have been, this has been happening before Hamas
#4867021
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Originally posted by SmellMyCheese
So that means they children and babies should get killed does it. Point remains if Palestine were treated better then people like Hamas wouldn't have got a foothold. While I respect your views you seem to have blinkers on and naively think this is all one sided and black and white

You mention they should be be treated equally have their own state but they never have been, this has been happening before Hamas


Sir, you are an ignorant little fellow. When Hamasaki was firing rockets into Israel do you think.they really thought about when and children getting killed? No... They just cared about killing Jews. Hamas and the PLO before them never cared either
After reading all that has been posted in this thread about the history of this conflict you.still prefer to whine on about women and children dying. The Israelis have been more than accommodating by warning the Palestinians ahead of time about the areas.they were targeting, which has never happened in any war I might add, yet Hamas keeps.their people in these areas. This is war man, people get killed. Witness the 60 million CIVILIANS who died during WW2. Pull your head out of your left leaning peacenik ASS and give it a really good shake. Your disgraceful........
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#4867022
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First on all if you can't keep a civil tongue stay out of it. I'm a disgrace because im horrified by the horrific killing of children? I'm whining about women and children dying? Listen to yourself you sound like a monster. The real disgrace is you, you abject apology of a human being as you don't seem to give a shit.

(You want to be uncivil I can be the same to you) and don't talk to me about WW2, what happened there was a dark chapter and yet you think you can use that as an excuse to justify what is happening now. Frankly you insult their memory and all the suffering they went through. you cretin you follow a one sided argument at lease I have said over and over against BOTH sides Hamas and Israel have blood in their hands but Israel is being un proportionate and indiscriminate

Next time you want to reply go fuck yourself because your knowledge of history seems one sided and frankly if you can't take the fact someone has a differing view to yours then don't talk until you can do so in a civil fashion

I'm sure you will have more to say because your that kind of narrow minded petty idiotic moron but please go ahead because I have nothing more to say to you.
#4867023
Lvl 20
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Originally posted by SmellMyCheese
I'm shocked by all the "scholars" on here who just seem to not give a shit about the number of children that have been killed. Again no one is arguing that Israel should exist but every pro Israeli seems to think a non Israeli life has no meaning


I can't speak for everyone under every circumstance, but I haven't once seen anyone dismiss the life of a child in this discussion, despite your accusation that it has happened.

I did see that you challenged Nightcruiser's interpretation of facts however. I also saw him go out of his way to point out that he doesn't agree with a separated Palestinian people, and that they should have their own state and be treated as equals on the world stage.

I also saw you fail to acknowledge his statements, and I saw you fail to acknowledge attributing words and thoughts to him that he never expressed.

If we (all of us - or any of us) want genuine understanding, reasonable solutions and progress, we must first display that those options are viable - by exemplifying those traits ourselves.

Being angry, unreasonable, unfair, and dishonest about one-another does not bring understanding. It only brings more child-sized body bags filled with the casualties of zealotry.
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#4867027
Lvl 14
those women and children would be alive if Hamas wasnt hiding among them, they have even discovered a manual from hamas that tells them to hide within the civilians to mazimize their deaths to gain public opinion, but only stupid people would buy into that and fall for what they are doing.........oh wait.....
#4867036
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I don't see Putin stopping at just Ukraine

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Russians are a violent bunch

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USA politicians have always been fair game on the Internet

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Can't stop drug wars that kill 1000s of their people.

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Surgarpie, you just don't understand

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The day to day Hamas terror attack against Israel doesn't make headlines


You know I could have joined the CIA, but they found out my parents were married.
#4867042
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Originally posted by SmellMyCheese
First on all if you can't keep a civil tongue stay out of it. I'm a disgrace because im horrified by the horrific killing of children? I'm whining about women and children dying? Listen to yourself you sound like a monster. The real disgrace is you, you abject apology of a human being as you don't seem to give a shit.

(You want to be uncivil I can be the same to you) and don't talk to me about WW2, what happened there was a dark chapter and yet you think you can use that as an excuse to justify what is happening now. Frankly you insult their memory and all the suffering they went through. you cretin you follow a one sided argument at lease I have said over and over against BOTH sides Hamas and Israel have blood in their hands but Israel is being un proportionate and indiscriminate

Next time you want to reply go fuck yourself because your knowledge of history seems one sided and frankly if you can't take the fact someone has a differing view to yours then don't talk until you can do so in a civil fashion

I'm sure you will have more to say because your that kind of narrow minded petty idiotic moron but please go ahead because I have nothing more to say to you.

I am well versed on world events and history. I am horrified by wars and man`s inhumanity to man. I abhor war and conflict that results in the deaths of innocents but I also recognize that our species is violent. \I also recognize that a nation has a right to defend itself from terror and Hamas is a terrorist organization committed to the destruction of the Jewish state. I recognize that this particular Arab peoples knows only hate towards their neighbors. I recognize that their children are indoctrinated and educated from birth to hate the Jew. Can the same be said for the average Israeli against their neighbor? Arabs that reside in Israel and are Israeli citizens are moderate and take pride in their homeland and live hand in hand with the Jews in peace. Did you know that or did you think that Israel had no other nationalities besides Jews residing in it`s borders? I am also sure that the average Palestinian also desires to live in peace but their voice and choice is dictated by centuries old hatreds and a religion that is violent and anti-semetic at it`s core.
You call me narrow minded. I have traveled much of the world and interacted with many nationalities. I am a Canadian so I don`t tend to accept as truth the corporate news that I see spoon fed to the average American through Fox and CNN. Ever watch the CBC or the BBC? Ever read the english version of Pravda? I do so please don`t call me narrow minded.
The Palestinians could have chosen to live in a peaceful co-existence with the Jews when the land was ceded to the displaced Jews after WW2 but they chose hatred instead.It is their own narrow mindedness that has put them in the position they are in today. As has been pointed out many times in this thread, Hamas cowardly chooses to place their weapons in among the general populace and it is the general populace that is paying the price. As I pointed out, this is war and in war the first casualty is truth and the second is people. Don`t call me a monster for speaking truth. You choose to prattle on about the women and children dying but what about the sons on both sides who are also dying in this conflict? Every one who has died in this skirmish is somebodies child and I prey for all their souls.
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#4867047
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I am well versed on world events and history. I am horrified by wars and man`s inhumanity to man. I abhor war and conflict that results in the deaths of innocents but I also recognize that our species is violent. \I also recognize that a nation has a right to defend itself from terror and Hamas is a terrorist organization committed to the destruction of the Jewish state. I recognize that this particular Arab peoples knows only hate towards their neighbors. I recognize that their children are indoctrinated and educated from birth to hate the Jew. Can the same be said for the average Israeli against their neighbor? Arabs that reside in Israel and are Israeli citizens are moderate and take pride in their homeland and live hand in hand with the Jews in peace. Did you know that or did you think that Israel had no other nationalities besides Jews residing in it`s borders? I am also sure that the average Palestinian also desires to live in peace but their voice and choice is dictated by centuries old hatreds and a religion that is violent and anti-semetic at it`s core.
You call me narrow minded. I have traveled much of the world and interacted with many nationalities. I am a Canadian so I don`t tend to accept as truth the corporate news that I see spoon fed to the average American through Fox and CNN. Ever watch the CBC or the BBC? Ever read the english version of Pravda? I do so please don`t call me narrow minded.
The Palestinians could have chosen to live in a peaceful co-existence with the Jews when the land was ceded to the displaced Jews after WW2 but they chose hatred instead.It is their own narrow mindedness that has put them in the position they are in today. As has been pointed out many times in this thread, Hamas cowardly chooses to place their weapons in among the general populace and it is the general populace that is paying the price. As I pointed out, this is war and in war the first casualty is truth and the second is people. Don`t call me a monster for speaking truth. You choose to prattle on about the women and children dying but what about the sons on both sides who are also dying in this conflict? Every one who has died in this skirmish is somebodies child and I prey for all their souls.


AB

I'd like to congratulate you on the eloquent and well reasoned way you have set out your arguement.

As you state, there are some on this forum who need to take the blinkers off and start looking at the picture as it is, and not accept what they are fed through their media. They may also wish to question why the American government continues to fund Israel to the tune of over $3b year on year, and why they choose to sell off cut price armaments to Israel to enable them to perpetuate this conflict.

I support neither side in this conflict, but the images seen of the destruction of townships in the north of Palestine are remanicent of the destruction of places such as Dresden during WWII, and can hardy be described as comesurate with the attacks launched by those from Palestine.

All in all it's a pretty sad state of affairs !!
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#4867049
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The ONLY reason Israel hasn't suffered more in this conflict and daily is because Israel spend a LOT of USA money on defense and their security force. They have one of the best Airport security forces in the world. There would be a lot more dead Israelis if not for this fact. Surrounding states want them destroyed just because they are Jews. A state that takes up a tiny fraction of the worlds land.
What the Palestinians need to be focusing on is forming a cohesive government. A government that is not corrupt. A government that wants to do business with Israel. Educate their people. Train their people in business and trades. Look at the USA borders. You have Canada vs Mexico. Good government vs bad government. Educated vs Non educated. Laws vs Lawless. The USA welcomes Canadians. Mexicans not so much.
Just my opinion
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#4867050
Lvl 20
Nightcruiser as i said before I do not question Israel's right to exist or defend itself far from it but it's as you said Israel has the superior skills to defend itself which makes many question the amount of force used in Palestine. As I have said before I have worked with charities that provide medical and food aide to Palestine. Contrary to what people might believe here not all Palestinians are indoctrinated at birth to hate the Israelis most want to get on with their lives. Let me ask you this, if a small Palestinian grows up knowing only violence from its neighbours what view do you think he would have of them. If you wish to say that's it's all the Palestinians fault the surely Israel should show them your wrong. Where does the hate end, as I said it's not black and white but then all of us and by that I mean all of us are getting heated and trying to force our views on each other and trading personal insults. It would be greats to say its clear cut this person is good and this person is bad but we both know that isn't a case.

In that vein if I have caused you offence or insulted you personally I apologise because that was never my intention
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