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Originally posted by zeroflat
im exstatic that B.O. won. I didnt vote for McCain because around 90% of his voting was the exact same as GWs. voting on stupid bills, giving oil companies tax breaks. Obama looks like a radical, and i hope he is. Because right now only some radical moves can get the united states out of the toilet that GW and his office left it in.
From what I can tell, you're glad Obama won because he's not George Bush and George W. Bush is responsible for the shape the US is in. That's fairly off base, but hey, it's your vote.
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Originally posted by yibby
The white race in this country is over as we know it, I hoped I die first ,but after the riots, I probally will be dead anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, no! Were we even close? And here I didn't even know we were racing. Someone should have told me. I have a twin-turbo, and could have perhaps helped in some way. I'm wicked fast, you know.
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Originally posted by dr.waller
obvious troll. no one actually thinks any of that. nice try though.
I bet some people do. Way to speak for 300,000,000+ americans though, doc.
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Originally posted by Mr_Bubbles
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Bollocks he's a war criminal and should hang(hang)
Wow, at first I thought you were just misguided. Now I think you're not all that bright. There are tons of world leaders that are MUCH worse than Bush could ever imagine being. I'm no fan of GWB, but to say that he's a war criminal that, "should hang" is beyond ridiculous.
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Originally posted by tommyjt24
In case you missed Jimmy Carter was one of the first presidents to actually take action on trying to reduce our consumption of foreign oil,
Yeah, those sweaters in the White House were a good idea. I can't imagine why they didn't catch on.
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Originally posted by tommyjt24
the problem with a republic/democracy is that the majority generally rules and will not work in the best interest of the country or what is "good" for the people but for the majority.
The flip side of that coin is that no one person or small group is able to steer government policy in foolish ways. Unless, of course, that constituency has access to lots of money to contribute to political campaigns and parties.
Further, the problem with your assertion is that there is no true arbiter of what, precisely, is "good" for the people or in the best interests of the country. That's quite a subjective rule.
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Originally posted by tommyjt24
Don't get me wrong I'm all about small government but when everyone is subsiding (and you can just print money) what is wrong with America how is it ever going to get fixed through pure capitalism?
Pure capitalism is exactly what would fix it. The problems arise when the government intervenes in pure capitalism, distorting market forces that would be otherwise self-correcting.
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Originally posted by 4tookerplace
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I voted Democrat because I'm sick of cry baby rich cowards running the damn country. Fucking cry babies see the boogie man behind every rock and cower in fear. They should take all their money and move in with their masters in Saudi Arabia and live in fear there for a while.
Shut the fuck up already. Grow some balls and be a man and stop crying about your goddamn money.
Well, that was productive.
BTW, Rich cry baby cowards aren't exclusive to Republicans.
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Originally posted by montanamax
The U.S. didn't achieve greatness because of hate and ignorance, it became the great nation it is because of the willingness to accept different viewpoints and ideas and incorporate it for the benefit of everybody.
What? You mean like how the early settlers of the country accepted the viewpoints of the monarchs of Europe with regard to religion and representation?
The US achieved greatness because it was a bastion of social and religious freedom, it's lack of oppression (generally) and the economic possibilities contained within. Not because the nation stood arm in arm singing "Coom-by-yah".
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Originally posted by montanamaxAny civilization that doesn't adapt and accept change, stagnates and implodes upon itself. Just like any new president, you should give him your full support, but question what you think is wrong and work to improve the country and if it doesn't succeed, there is always the option to vote for alternatives. Hate doesn't do anything but breed hate.
Nobody should give anyone with whom they strongly ideologically disagree their strong support. That's a ridiculous statement.
While I generally agree that "hate" is often detrimental, holding strongly to ones convictions, even if those convictions are in the minority is to be lauded, not derided. There have been numerous times throughout the course of history when the option of voting for "alternatives" isn't enough. If you think there is a significant difference between the average democratic politician and the average republican politician you're missing the bigger picture.
I guess what I'm saying is, don't feel the need to conform to what is politically correct or accepted, if after inspection, one comes to the conclusion that none of the options on the table are adequate. There are times, in fact, when hating the status quo are acceptable and justified.
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Originally posted by Skoffla
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haha awesome.
and i think the new leaders ARE rising. remember last night? clinton, gore, bush, kerry, any of the former big deals in this country were nowhere to be seen. it's a new generation of politicians.
What were you watching last night? I saw and heard from Reid, Pelosi, and Biden, the current bigwigs of the Democratic Party, who have an average of TWENTY-SIX YEARS in congress.
To quote one of those three: "That's not change; that's more of the same!"
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Originally posted by Skofflaunless Obama comes to my place and roughs me up anything he does in the next year or so will most likely not even effect me personally.
Wow. That's one of the mos naive things I've heard said on WBW. Which is saying a lot.
The President of the United States has a profound impact on the daily lives of each and every US citizen, and often more than just US citizens. It's just that you don't see it directly.
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Somewhat off topic funny anecdote: My cousin works in the registration department of a hospital in Trenton. He said that last night a woman came into the emergency department for treatment. She was uninsured, and as such was given information on the programs available to assist the uninsured pay for treatment, as is standard hospital operating procedure. Her response when given this information: "I don't need that. Obama's going to take care of it."
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