Murder.

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Originally posted by Spidey_

Rule #1: Never talk about a crime.

Rule #2: See Rule #1!

Rule #3: Watch Matlock.

Fixed.

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Originally posted by rikko

Ah.....remember Forensics usually gets their man or woman sooner or later. There's an old "law" in Medicine that's almost as old (I think) than "The Germ Theory." The "Law" explains that all of us take something away at a crime scene or grandmas house and leave something behind. Yes....it's been tested empirically and it works. You can have a rubber Bio-hazard PPE on and the "law" still applies to you. (hang)

My little sister is an investigator for the state. She says that's a bunch of shit. What usually happens is that there's some evidence, but it's not usually all that cut and dry.

Just because they find some hair, or even blood, from someone else at a crime scene doesn't mean the blood is new, doesn't mean that's where it came from, doesn't mean they were involved, and so on. Just because Person A's blood is on a dead person's shirt doesn't mean much, and very few convictions will come from that alone.

What really does it is that they talk about it, witnesses place them there, they can get a mountain of circumstantial evidence, and either cut a deal or force a confession. Either that or they tell someone about it.

She says that shit you see on Discovery where they find the guy and lock down an airtight case simply doesn't happen that often.

She's the one that originally told me that if you wanted to whack someone and get away with it, you probably could.

If you can hide the body and no one can figure out they're dead rather than just missing, that's a big step. Not knowing the person is an even bigger step, because they can only compare any samples of anything they might find to the suspect pool. If you're not a suspect, not associated with the victim in any way, and especially if your shit isn't on file (you're not already in the database for someone) she's pretty sure you can get away with it.

Of course, if you're that distantly removed from the person and from a life of crime (so that you're not already a suspect or in the database) then you probably don't know how to kill someone, don't know what to do with the body, and don't really have a reason to do it in the first place.

She's a pretty good investigator. She's young, but she's already testified twice at the State Supreme Court on murder trials. She's pretty sharp. Beyond that, her answer makes sense to me.

if you were to, the best way is to cremate the body and then spread the ashes into the ocean. the fish will eat the remains and there will be no DNA evidence left

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Originally posted by Tarquin

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My little sister is an investigator for the state. She says that's a bunch of shit. What usually happens is that there's some evidence, but it's not usually all that cut and dry.

Just because they find some hair, or even blood, from someone else at a crime scene doesn't mean the blood is new, doesn't mean that's where it came from, doesn't mean they were involved, and so on. Just because Person A's blood is on a dead person's shirt doesn't mean much, and very few convictions will come from that alone.

What really does it is that they talk about it, witnesses place them there, they can get a mountain of circumstantial evidence, and either cut a deal or force a confession. Either that or they tell someone about it.

She says that shit you see on Discovery where they find the guy and lock down an airtight case simply doesn't happen that often.

She's the one that originally told me that if you wanted to whack someone and get away with it, you probably could.

If you can hide the body and no one can figure out they're dead rather than just missing, that's a big step. Not knowing the person is an even bigger step, because they can only compare any samples of anything they might find to the suspect pool. If you're not a suspect, not associated with the victim in any way, and especially if your shit isn't on file (you're not already in the database for someone) she's pretty sure you can get away with it.

Of course, if you're that distantly removed from the person and from a life of crime (so that you're not already a suspect or in the database) then you probably don't know how to kill someone, don't know what to do with the body, and don't really have a reason to do it in the first place.

She's a pretty good investigator. She's young, but she's already testified twice at the State Supreme Court on murder trials. She's pretty sharp. Beyond that, her answer makes sense to me.

You're sister needs to get re-training and/or a degree/advanced degree in Forensic Sciences. My uncle is a Forensic Pathologist for Bucks County, PA. He has his M.D(Professional Degree) and his Ph.D(Terminal Degree.)

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Originally posted by rikko

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You're sister needs to get re-training and/or a degree/advanced degree in Forensic Sciences. My uncle is a Forensic Pathologist for Bucks County, PA. He has his M.D(Professional Degree) and his Ph.D(Terminal Degree.)

She's got a degree. A couple of them actually.

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Iv thought about it a buncha times. Choke them till death so theirs no blood spill. freeze the body so their blood doesn't run when you cut them up. then feed their body to the fish out in the ocean off a house boat... or something.

I'm never visiting/meeting any of you...

haha... jokes

First you need to give your mark time and space, no matter how pissed you are at them. wait at least 1-2 years, so you won't be on the top of the suspect list. the police will think it was someone who had an altercation with them more recently than that. next get yourself an extra barrel for your govt. model 1911 (it's the most copied handgun in the world). buy it at a gun show, & pay cash for it (no paper trail), use an electric drill or a high speed rotary tool to foul the inside of the barrel slightly. swap the barrel's out. leave your cell phone, gps, & all electronic goodies at home so they can't be used to track your movements later. use the .45 to whack the mark in their home, gather up the spent shell casings. douse the body, & house with kerosene (don't use gas it has too low of a flash point). put 2 candles in a small plastic bucket of kerosene, make sure at least four inches of the candle are above the fluid, but below the top of the bucket. light the candles, & hit the road. it will take the candles a while to burn down far enough to ignite the kerosene. once lit, it will burn and melt the bucket causing the remaining contents and fire to spill out onto the floor lighting the other kerosene. by this time you should have had enough time to burn the clothes and shoes you were wearing. switch the barrels out in the pistol. pick up your gadgets, and get yourself somewhere very public for an alibi. you will also want to use a torch to heat up the barrel used in the crime, once cherry red use a hammer to flatten out the barrel. finaly cut the chunk of steel that had been the barrel into several small pieces and dispose of them in different places a junk yard would be good. KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT!!! this is all hypothetical of course. i wouldn't raise a hand against anyone.

WoW!

For those really interested in murder, there is(was) a book by Paladin Press in 1993 entitled 'Hit Man: A Technical Manual for Independent Contractors.'
The book was used as a how to guide to kill and a triple murder occurred in 1993 resulting in lawsuits, banning of the book and a settlement.

FYI---Book of course can be found on the internet and probably in some Paladin/Loompanics(now defunct) type of book sellers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hit_Man:_A_Technical_Manual_for_Independent_Contractors

First off, you'd have to watch the person to learn their routine. Once you've gotten their routine down, you would break into their house. Then, you'd have to knock the person out, either by choking them or using ether or something like that. If you choke them be carefull not to bruse the throat, they might find that. Once the person is out cold, find the gas line to the house or the stove or something. Pull the line from the wall and cut it. Then get the hell out. Make sure you wear gloves the whole time. And, do this at around 3 AM so the chance of a witness is less. Something will ignite the gas, and you'll be nowhere around.