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Finally figured out how I end up getting outgunned y the competiton at the bars, but the solution involves a moral dilemma..

Starter: nightowl613 Posted: 11 years ago Views: 3.1K
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Well, I take that back. There is no moral dilemma about any of this. I am going to share with you a secret method that the real players, the guys who are always getting laid-use. This info will now be yours. Yeah I know this is long, but I promise you an entertaining read if you just stick with it. Intelligent commentary is welcome, and I welcome it from those who are players, those who have done what I am contemplating doing and those who have seen it work. I am going to tell you what I found out is a VERY easy way for a guy who at least has some game and isn't a burn victim to get laid almost every, single time, and to be able to pick out the girl to do it to like they were at a fucking smorgasbord. If you are just beginning your serious vocation at attempting to pick up chicks at bars and get laid, this is for you. Got your attention now? Read on.

Okay, so I am 40 and decent looking, mommy taught me how to dress, and my social skills are good enough for me to hold my own when I go out, though I am not an expert at getting women to fall at my feet, at least I can on occasion have them eating out of my hand. Usually I can get some positive response and flirting from girls anywhere between 32 and forty. Not too bad, really. They're still quite hot in that range. Plus I'm okay with kids, which helps. One would think that getting just plain laid, let alone being able to snag a date, wouldn't be impossible for me. ,This bar I hang at is where I normally go trolling or just drop in to have a beer and do some mingling. Yes, I am wide open to a relationship but for whatever reason, I'm not prone to being in them. I would love to meet that kind of women, and since this place is mostly populated by regulars and a generally clean and decent crowd, there are many relationship-worthy women who hang there. This is a bar/pub, not a club filled with drunken college kids. A sort of calm, neighborhood-y type of joint with some class. I wouldn't rule out meeting someone there who was datable. But II also admit there are far better places to go looking for relationships: cooking classes, libraries, volunteerism, etc. Yeah, I know that. On the other hand, especially with the weekend crowd, getting laid there should be in no way out of the question.

But getting picked up and just plain fucked is pretty nice too. "But Jeff, why would you want to be in a relationship with a girl like that?". Um, I didn't say the word "relationship" did I? Okay. I often get flirted with plenty...the arm grabbed, engaging conversation with reasonably hot women, and sometimes VERY hot women. So I think the question of physical attractiveness being the problem is ruleable-outable. As is lack of social skill, otherwise they wouldn't be talking to me at all and I'd develop a reputation pretty fast as someone who is better not talked to. Yet every single time I would swear I'm doing okay with a girl at a bar, and I mean every single time over the years.......they always take off with someone else in the end. Let me clarify: they take off with someone else who didn't put in the work finessing the subject or buying the drinks for the last two hours. By now it's a theme in my life. I just have that little problem closing the deal, and I have tried every....fucking.....thing under the sun. Maybe my problem is that I'm regarded as a "nice guy". But as we all know, the words "nice guy" translate to "not getting laid during this presidential administration". And really I just wouldn't even know where to begin with being an asshole. I have felt for years that I am absolutely helpless in, well, getting laid. And we do all need to get laid. Especially at least once every 7 years, and that is a current and rather kind estimate. I have finally faced the fact that there is nothing I can do-at least at the bars and other places where one can reasonably expect to get picked up and laid at least now and then-to get laid now and then. Everyone unless they are butt ugly or lack all game, deserves to get laid at such a place now and then. I just don't have anything else I can pull out of my ass. But I think I finally found what that thing-that superweapon- is, and I am going to discuss it in a minute. I am going to reveal The Monumental Secret. For real. And what guy hasn't wanted to just skip all the BULLSHIT with the buying the drinks with no guarantee she'll put out, the phone calls that go unturned, the time invested-sometimes weeks- and all the usual BS that comes from getting one simple screw.

But for now the (short version) of what went on last night needs to be told. I'm at the bar and walk up to the actual bar and find a group of people which looked somewhat together, and a couple of the women were holding Pomeranians. Yes, as in the dogs. So I walk up and pet the dog and before you know it we're discussing the dog and out own pets and so on. The girl I am mainly talking to is married, but that's cool. You see, she's the one who is going to refer you to her friends. So I make nice with her. Then I ask her about her cute little unmarried friend. She says the friend is single. I ask what the friend is into, what she does, the other essential details. She more than happily tells me. Then I move in, asking to hold the Pomeranian she was holding. Pretty soon it's going great. We're discussing our love of Thai food, her kid (always be sure to gawk at the pictures they'll show you. In fact, be preemptive and ask to see them). And in fact, I like her. We're genuinely hitting it off. Had I left with just her number and maybe a date to look forward to I woulda been happy with that. She said "Okay, so what would we do on a date?". I said "Thai restaurant, then drive around and take in some Christmas lights. That seemed to go over well. Right there I should have formalized the plans for the date and left. But the married friend said I was doing okay-and I was-so I hung out a bit. Excuse the fuck outta me for being human and getting my hopes up. Again. Which is stupid since every single last time, they will leave with someone else.

I go to get her a beer, and by the time I come back she's being flirty with a guy who just got there. I hadn't seen this guy before. Then she just takes off. Then the guy takes off about 30 seconds later. I don't know why they even bothered to stagger it. May as well have just said "We're going out to the parking lot to fuck" which is exactly what they did. The married friend said "I am all but sure he offered her coke and she's going to have sex with him for it now". Now for all of you who are about to say "But what would you want with a girl like that anyhow?", just shut the fuck up, okay? I wouldn't want anything to do with a girl like that, but up until I saw her walk out with some guy she met five minutes earlier, I can't say I had a lot of idea she was that kind of girl. And if she was, then I was the guy who deserved to get laid. I bought the drinks, I got flirted with, we all but fucking planned a g-damned date already!". Just imagine how I felt. Now imagine year and years of this bullshit, sometimes on a weekly basis. It leaves one feeling kinda hopeless, dejected and helpless. I mean five minutes! Tell me you wouldn't kill to have that going on. And when you feel like shitty, you are going to look for a solution.

Then it hit me. That loss of the potential of getting laid by that chick was a real kick in the ass. A real hard one. But I owe that guy a thanks. Because I realized something; when I need to know how to do something, I look at others who have done it to find out how I should do it. [b]This guy used coke or crystal to get laid. And it worked like a charm. On top of that, he could have probably fucked just about any girl in the place who gave any indication she was a player.[/b] It was a smorgasbord for him. It also hit me that this explains just about every last time this has happened to me over the years, at least at bars. Yeah there are women out there who have passed on me. It's going to happen, we all get that. But this....this shit.......happened all too often.

And this was why, this was one of the greatest, most illuminating a-ha! moments in my life. Most of us only have one or two of these that are worth a crap in our whole lives. This one, for me, is going to do down in history. Years of searching for an explanation are now over. ow it's all so very clear. Now I get that these guys do not, in fact,have Svengali-like powers of seduction. I always knew they couldn't be that good. No one is that good. It had to be something else. That something else is, well, either coke or crystal. So there, whether you like it or not, you have it.

To these guys who are using this secret, this equalizer, they don't need the fancy threads, the buying drinks, the hours spent finessing some chick just to get dick-stomped later that night. I've been doing that for ages. It doesn't work. Or at least it doesn't work enough. If this is what you're doing, stop it. You are wasting your time.

One reason I didn't notice this before is that this kind of thing is on the DL. This is not weed. It ain't a community thing. This is a hard drug. You don't advertise that you have it. Coke and crystal are not something you either advertise yourself as having or being so loose of a woman as to fuck some guy for it. But I can see how it's employed....you get in close with the girl, then you say something like "Do you party?" or "You look like you could use a pick-me-up". It's all code. You do not have to say "Wanna fuck for some blow out in my car?". Don't be indelicate. Being so could kill even a moment like this. No woman wants to be called a whore, so the least you can do is keep up the illusion she's not. Then when you get to the car or her place, you say like you're joking "This is where you convince me you're not a cop". The girl, I assure you, knows she's going to have to fuck for this. It is also no wonder that this has all been going on under my nose-no pun intended-for years and I didn't even know it. In fact when you think about it, I'd say that nowadays, any girl who gets picked up from a bar is doing it for some nose candy. I'd also venture to say that at the average singles bar, there are probably hundreds of guys who are holding some. Oh it is all so clear now.

So anyone who doesn't believe me or want to take advantage of this can go right on with this fantasy that being the nice guy, the charming guy, that that new Polo shirt you blew fucking $100 on, that fancy car you drive, that $50 in drinks you bought her are going to get you laid. They rarely will, but chances are you are throwing good money after bad. Nothing triumphs over some nose candy. Nothing. Five minutes from the meet to getting something done to his dick out in his car. Seriously, think about that. This chick could have had any guy in the bar, she wasn't short on looks, but she took off with the guy who had the party favors, and I went home to fuck my fist again. Those days are over. I've tired with the nice guy stuff, now I am going to do what works. Life is too short to waste on anything else. So I think you know without saying it what I am going to do. I'll be screwing the hottest single player girl in the bar and you can be one of the simpering clueless losers who goes home to blow his load into a hanky which can probably stand up on it's own by now.

Since this Epiphany, I have come to believe in something that is not true; that to get some action, you have to use substances. That seems to be the only explanation as to why or how any reasonably attractive woman will have sex with anyone these days. I am going by deduction here, I use deductive reasoning a lot and it serves me well. I have tried everything else. Everything, for the last twenty years. I have had sex with 21 women but none in the last 10 years. I have tried everything but this. So here it is. There couldn't be any other answer. The other thing that leads me to think this is that guys, women don't need us anymore for anything. They have their own money and cars, they know they can raise the kids without our help. You're obsolete. If you have any illusions that romance is alive, drop them and get back into the real world. Who says the women are even looking for it? All they need is something battery powered and as a species, you're officially useless. Man up. It's cold out there and we need an edge. They aren't playing fair with us, why shouldn't we have some advantage? This is the only reliable way you are ever going to get any on a regular basis. You are not starring in a movie, you are not Matt Damon and you are not going to ride off with Scarlett Johannson in the end. You need some help, and here it is.

Yeah I'll probably take a cooking class, keep my eyes open when I go to where I go to hang out when I'm not at the bars, keep asking married female friends if they "know anyone". There may be a relationship in my future. I'd jump at that and be true to that woman who I hope turns out to be the love of my life. That's for the very lucky few. In the mean time, I have other plans.

Has anyone here employed such methods, thought of it, feel I have given good advice and piqued your curiosity? Throw down, brothers.
And if you're married and going to say something smart about how you didn't have to do any of that, can it. Married/unsingle people think they're like these bearded wizened gurus sitting on some mountaintop dispensing advice to us, the single, enlightenment seeking villagers below. You lucked out and could have been out there in the cold for years like many of us. Had you not met that person, which was pure luck, you'd still be out there. And don't think that she didn't marry you because most people are fucking terrified of being alone. You can bet that factored into it.
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#4744919
Lvl 28
Alright...

I'm going to read this I guess....coulda added a picture though.

Stay tuned for thoughts.
#4744926
Lvl 59
Without reading anything more than the title, let me just say that you get passed over by broads because your mouth is rotting from the inside. Pretty big turnoff when your smile is a cesspool.
#4744936
Too many words and not enough pictures, gifs, and colored fonts.
#4744941
Lvl 28
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they always take off with someone else in the end. Let me clarify: they take off with someone else who didn't put in the work finessing the subject or buying the drinks for the last two hours.


Hi. I'm that guy.


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Especially at least once every 7 years


You mean weeks right? Like....or months?

Are you a Vulcan?

Thanks for that sweet, yet obscure burn, Comic Book Guy.

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they will leave with someone else.


Yeah.. they will.


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Now imagine year and years of this bullshit.


That would just bum me out.



So this is taking a dark turn to insanity town.


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This is the only reliable way you are ever going to get any on a regular basis.




Really though?

Like really?

If by your own admission that have their own cars and careers and money and shit. So uhh, instead of being cokewhores.......they could just get it themselves and not bone old weird coke dealers?

As a person who hangs out (unfortunately) with a teen that does coke on occasion, I know they're pretty easy going on the sechs, but like.....really? Okay, well I guess right. I mean...I'm cute as balls and charming. I dress well, ( I speak as little as possible ) and I drive beautiful sports cars. I don't think I've ever gone to the bar to pick up and struck out completely. Then again I'm not like old or anything. I wear nice clothes because I like looking good. I drive nice cars because I like nice cars, I have fun driving. I can't imagine a dude taking fucking cooking classes or volunteering to meet chicks, let alone just straight offering chicks drugs for sex. I dunno, but if your motivation is entirely to get laid and stuff, go nuts right, who cares.

But, spoof or not spoof...I'm probably being trolled, but most of that logic is pretty retarded. "They all have a secret weapon!!!" or you know, we don't have the aroma of desperation floating around us. My friend and I used to go bar hopping often, he would go to meet girls. I would go because he didn't want to go alone. I'd grab a beer and pretend to drink it, and just chill out in a nice corner. Eventually some chick always approaches me and says something retarded to strike up a convo, and then sits down.

My friend dances, buys drinks, wears fucking MMA tapout horseshit and just strikes out every single god damn time. Why? He went there purposely to get his dick wet. I went to have a fun night out. I think girls can sense how desperate for pussy most guys are, and it's how they weed out the losers. Do girls fuck for coke? Sure. Do you wanna serrriously fuck that kinda girl? The mid 30s cokefloozie girl? I dunno dude.



Have uhh..fun? I guess.

C- Would not read again, or recommend to others.

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#4744944
Lvl 59
Apparently, in Canada teens can do cocaine :-O
#4744945
Lvl 28
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Originally posted by EricLindros
Apparently, in Canada teens can do cocaine :-O


Mostly on the beach apparently.
#4744946
Sooo...your answer to hooking up with girls is to become a drug dealer?


I'm sure nothing could possibly go wrong with this plan.
#4744947
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Originally posted by Sugarpie
Sooo...your answer to hooking up with girls is to become a drug dealer?


I'm sure nothing could possibly go wrong with this plan.


I figured he read a PUA book or something and was going to be "just be kind of a douche".

I mean, why not just like...pay hookers for sex?
#4744948
Lvl 59
Wait, did you guys actually read all that crap?


Because I was like...
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Originally posted by EricLindros
Wait, did you guys actually read all that crap?


I'm an excellent skimmer.
#4744951
Lvl 28
Yeah, I started reading and replying before the lulz parade...so I kinda got shafted into being awesome.

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#4744973
Lvl 70
Isn't drug apology in the rules of what not to post here ? Because it should imo...
#4744989
Lvl 12
Well, no serious flaming yet and at least one attempt at a real reply, so thanks. When I go out, I usually do that think of just standing calmly in one spot, a not-to-obvious spot, but one where people are still going to walk by. I call it "motionless mingling" since someone, often a fairly cute girl who has had a drink or two, will eventually talk to me. In this manner I seem to end up talking to more of them than if I was wandering around looking for one to talk to. I just stand there and get noticed sooner or later. Or one of their married or hoked-up friends will say something and then introduce me to her crew one, one of whom will probably be single. Like I said, I know how to meet them, I'm just sick of seeing so many green lights so many times and then......nothing. Either they take off, the deal doesn't close or they end up with some guy who offers to put something up their nose. I am not saying this is any way to meet a woman who I'd want to go out with, but when it comes to getting laid, I'm saying you are all but wasting your time if you go out without some party favors in your pocket or stashed nearby. Luck just isn't reliable enough, plus any girl who is there looking to hook up is probably going to say yes to any number of guys, but she will certainly say yes to a guy who has some blow to offer. Plus you can pick the girl that way. When they go out they pick the guy, right? Because they have the pussy. That's not wring, is it? Well with some blow, we have their ability to choose. Why is that wrong? Hell, I've done way crazier things than blow to get some ass.
#4745034
Hell...I've been doing it wrong all these years. No wonder I don't have a lot of luck with the ladies...I need to offer them blow or meth first. Thanks for the tip.
#4745144
Lvl 8
Not saying a pocket full of blow won't get you laid but have you thought about hitting up a bar that's not full of coke whores? Are you doing your drinking in a poorly lit strip club? Because that's the best place to get coke whore vagina.
#4745203
Lvl 12
I do not hang out where there are a ton of coke whores. But think of the setting....it's at this bar, which, as I described, is pretty nice. If you're looking for a relationship, go to a decent bar like this after work because that's where you meet the women who are just out for a drink after work, they have jobs and are not going to be gettin' too wild. In fact you may not even see them there on the weekend or later at night.

But if you want to get laid, remember it's all about time and place. Where to get laid is the same place, different time. Like a weekend night, and late. The scene is different. People are dressed up, many of them are *there* to get laid. Inhibitions are waning as everyone gets drunker. There is a different energy in the place. Okay so now you say you run into a woman who is obviously a player. Do you think after several drinks (and do let someone else buy them, won't you?) she's going to say no to a bump? She's only one step away from wanting or being willing to have one by then. Yeah you may have just met her but you didn't run into her at 1:00 pm while out on your lunch hour in broad daylight. Setting, guys, setting. Tell me this wouldn't be worth a $100 bag of blow once or twice a year when you're out on a cannot-fail mission. I'm only giving you information, you do what you want with it. But you can't say I'm lying.
#4745264
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Originally posted by nightowl613
Well, no serious flaming yet and at least one attempt at a real reply, so thanks. When I go out, I usually do that think of just standing calmly in one spot, a not-to-obvious spot, but one where people are still going to walk by. I call it "motionless mingling" since someone, often a fairly cute girl who has had a drink or two, will eventually talk to me. In this manner I seem to end up talking to more of them than if I was wandering around looking for one to talk to. I just stand there and get noticed sooner or later. Or one of their married or hoked-up friends will say something and then introduce me to her crew one, one of whom will probably be single. Like I said, I know how to meet them, I'm just sick of seeing so many green lights so many times and then......nothing. Either they take off, the deal doesn't close or they end up with some guy who offers to put something up their nose. I am not saying this is any way to meet a woman who I'd want to go out with, but when it comes to getting laid, I'm saying you are all but wasting your time if you go out without some party favors in your pocket or stashed nearby. Luck just isn't reliable enough, plus any girl who is there looking to hook up is probably going to say yes to any number of guys, but she will certainly say yes to a guy who has some blow to offer. Plus you can pick the girl that way. When they go out they pick the guy, right? Because they have the pussy. That's not wring, is it? Well with some blow, we have their ability to choose. Why is that wrong? Hell, I've done way crazier things than blow to get some ass.


Sounds like you're colorblind. Cause those ain't green lights.
#4745331
Lvl 70
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Originally posted by nightowl613
I'm only giving you information, you do what you want with it. But you can't say I'm lying.

You're not giving information, you're making up false conclusions based on one experience you had when a random person said you that maybe you missed an opportunity because of drug.
Also, if the magic trick to get laid with drug users is having drug ( ). What about women who don't ? Why's that you also miss opportunities with them ?
So maybe you should look for another explanation, one that is not external to you. I don't know you but if you have the same kind of discussions at the bars that you have on these forums, the problem is simple : you're just creepy.
#4745345
Lvl 4
Hard drugs bring so much misery to peoples lives. The Users. Their family and friends all suffer terribly.. I wouldn't want any part of supplying them with drugs
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