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#5418822
Lvl 75
Quote:
Originally posted by vbollie
SUGGESTION: let users moderate - unless it's an obvious OF model (simple Google Lens search), or there's a child in the photo, let it through. Deal with issues after the fact through DMCA and user moderation.


30-40% of images that are rejected on a weekly basis are professional, which shows that we’re not at a level where we can just let every image onto the site and deal with them afterwards. I’m not sure on the exact rules on this or what it could mean for Diz (as the owner), but you could have an instance where some mental user decides to upload a shit tonne of underage or progressional images (obviously Playboy or similar) and then we have a situation where they would be on the site until reported or a moderator sees them. Might be too risky from a site ownership perspective.
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#5418825
Lvl 40
Quote:
Originally posted by The_Sentinel
30-40% of images that are rejected on a weekly basis are professional, which shows that we’re not at a level where we can just let every image onto the site and deal with them afterwards. I’m not sure on the exact rules on this or what it could mean for Diz (as the owner), but you could have an instance where some mental user decides to upload a shit tonne of underage or progressional images (obviously Playboy or similar) and then we have a situation where they would be on the site until reported or a moderator sees them. Might be too risky from a site ownership perspective.


Not completely....you could put pictures 2 weeks in a queue where moderators would quickly screen them and the fact that people would have to grant every picture a category themself (like for the cars) , it would slow down the amount of uploads and even avoid somebody to post a shit tonne unwanted pictures...People would know that all pictures who aren't refused in the 2 next weeks will appear on the site and beyond that users would still be able to report...
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#5419055
Lvl 70
Quote:
Originally posted by vbollie
let's bring this back on topic.

Moderator rules still remain inconsistent. The "quality" or "photoshop" standards are too subjective (below are a couple more due to "quality" or "photoshopped" that didn't get through).

And even though I screen on Google Lens and Yandex, I only have a 50% hit rate of upload. So too hard.

Particularly when, for some users, or some moderators, the beautiful Matilde Tantot and 2 other OF models made it through moderation from the same uploader in the last 6. This can't just be "oops, we missed some", but shows different levels of moderation depending on user.

SUGGESTION: let users moderate - unless it's an obvious OF model (simple Google Lens search), or there's a child in the photo, let it through. Deal with issues after the fact through DMCA and user moderation.


So you're essentially asking for WBW to switch to being an unmoderated website just because you don't like the way it works. If we'd have to follow user imput regarding the issue and according to your own poll, we should actually tighten the moderation on the site. Only a minority is complaining that uploading stuff is too hard.
Even without considering your poll, the main draw of WBW is that it's actually a vetted website where you know the content is filtered to be amateur (to some extents as there are always stuff going through anyway). There are plenty of unmoderated websites where you can upload stuff at will and the majority of stuff there that is marked as "amateur" isn't, some very obviously. So yeah, no thanks.
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#5419060
Lvl 25
Sorry vbollie, but without moderation this site would be a total mess. Moderators are the first line of defence. All we can do is follow the rules whatever they may be. Nothing is perfect anyway but i believe this community forum is one of the best and things can only get better.
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#5419250
Lvl 24
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Originally posted by omuh
So you're essentially asking for WBW to switch to being an unmoderated website just because you don't like the way it works.

No, and I think you're being a bit sensitive. I'm suggesting that limited moderator time focuses on the things that matter: pros, underage, clear watermarks.

When I pull direct images from instagram they get rejected because they're "altered/photoshopped". It's horse shit. I report 3 photos/day that are clear onlyfans models that get through... yet these 4 examples get rejected. That doesn't seem fair. Moderator explanations don't address it adequately.

Is it fair that these 4 photos are rejected because 'altered / photoshop' when OF models make it through? Are you continuing to make bad judgement calls omuh?

Focus moderators on what matters. No pros. No kids. No watermarks. Rejection of photos like this exemplifies why it's "too hard".
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#5419253
Lvl 24
TL;DR - I upload good, high quality shit. Almost all of my photos have a 8 rating. Moderators get in the way and discourage people like me from participating

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Originally posted by LunaMoon
Sorry vbollie, but without moderation this site would be a total mess. Moderators are the first line of defence. All we can do is follow the rules whatever they may be. Nothing is perfect anyway but i believe this community forum is one of the best and things can only get better.


NO! I just want moderators to focus on the things that matter, and end subjectivity. Who cares if it's cropped. Here are 4 more examples moderators rejected (and before anyone suggests it's the "720px rule" - then remove those rejections so I can try to level-up a group!)
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#5419257
Lvl 24
like seriously - is this bad quality?
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#5419258
Lvl 37
Quote:
Originally posted by nemisis02
Did you ever think that some people like the "plastic wannabe barbies"? You may dislike them but obviously some users like them. Many of us do not like seeing all of the overweight Boomer women posted on here, but we ignore them and move along. You seem overly fixated on a single type of pic. So either you really hate them (in which case downvote and move along) or you hate yourself for liking them (in which case I suggest therapy). Alternatively, you could come up with constructive criticism and help make the site better. Though given your advanced age, you may not have much in the way of constructive criticism and only whining left. Seems the only people having issues, aside from your plastic fetish, are those that mass upload and can't handle a few getting rejected. There isva complaint system(or used to be) or you can always go elsewhere. But since you are here complaining, I am guessing going elsewhere is unlikely for you.


Gee, all this from a guy who hasn't uploaded a single babe photo. If you're so worried about making this site better, why don't you contribute some worthwhile pics? As for therapy, you might want to try it for that fixation on plastic barbies. Of course you can always go lurk in the doll section of your local toy store. I hear there are plenty of plastic women there for your enjoyment. You can always go buy yourself a blow up doll or two, they seem to work for you boys who can't find a real woman to get your rocks off with. Good luck finding that plastic doll of your dreams little boy.
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#5419260
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#5419264
Lvl 37
Quote:
Originally posted by omuh
Sentinel explained the same thing about women in plain clothes and nothing showing in another thread not too long ago. WBW is a porn website to begin with, so yeah, makes sense that the content has to be porn/erotica. I do agree that this could be added to the guidelines though yeah.

As for the content itself, it evolves with time, there is nothing we can do about it if what's uploaded nowadays evolved into something you don't like. The same way the porn industry evolved from classic porn movies to onlyfans and pornhub content.

I didn't close the other thread, I don't even have forum moderation rights.


Here are 10 pics of girls in plain clothes, and they definitely aren't showing anything that qualifies them to be on a PORN site do they? Any of these could easily be put on Facebook, and no one would complain. By the way, these are all your pics, did you pull them off Facebook? As for evolving, the moderators can shape what gets uploaded, especially with "other" as a reason to reject photos, or allow a fellow moderators pics in even if they aren't erotic or qualify as porn. The vast majority of pics the mods allow right now could just as easily be uploaded to Facebook or Instagram without any problem. That's my complaint and criticizing the crappy pics is trying to make it better. All those quasi-pro plastic face barbie's might not be pro's, but they sure as hell aren't erotic!

babes/tight-asses/1397375
babes/party-babes/1394856
babes/tight-asses/1389573
babes/tight-asses/1389560
babes/tight-asses/1389205
babes/tight-asses/1351006
non-nude-babes/1332492
babes/tight-asses/1352511
babes/tight-asses/1373463
babes/tight-asses/1392094

If anyone cares to know why I criticize the sentinel and omuh just go take a look at their uploads. Very few are nude and only a small percentage are even bikini/beach pics. To say other's pics "don't add anything to the site" or "they don't belong on a porn site" when their uploads don't meet that criteria just makes the hypocrites.
Last thing, this site has a size requirement, which is good, but if they are re-sized to meet the requirement, they get rejected as altered. If they meet all other requirements, why couldn't the altered be excused if that is the only reason they get rejected? There are some decent photos that are on her only because the automatic size requirement had a bug in it for awhile.
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#5419340
Lvl 70
@vbollie
We reject cropped pics because otherwise you end up with a gallery filled with the same pics uploaded several times but cropped differently or mirrored. You could actually witness that a few years ago before the duplicate system was put in place with series having 4/5/6 times the same pictures.

The rules are what they are, they are now displayed on the upload guidelines. As a mod, I'm just here to apply those rules, and as a user I'm fine with those as they provide good quality galleries. You can disagree with thoses rules and claim it's too hard, but even your poll disagrees with that sentiment.

You get the reasons why your pics have been rejected, we're not gonna comb through all those a second time just to give you the exact reason each time because you still can't handle pics being rejected for not respecting the rules.
One last time : first series you posted are cropped pics. You can actually find the uncropped ones on the internet ; second series I recognise two that are screenshots of videos, not pictures (found the videos online too). Last pic, we can't even see her pussy as it's all blury, yeah it's pretty bad quality, especialy in 2024.
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#5419343
Lvl 40
Quote:
Originally posted by omuh

One last time : first series you posted are cropped pics. You can actually find the uncropped ones on the internet ; second series I recognise two that are screenshots of videos, not pictures (found the videos online too). Last pic, we can't even see her pussy as it's all blury, yeah it's pretty bad quality, especialy in 2024.


Obviously not everybody thinks that the last pic is bad quility because today this one of the same girl got accepted https://whatboyswant.com/babes/selfshots/4337577 and I think the quality of the refused one was way better....
Nowhere in the rules there's stated that pictures have to be the same quality as 2024 , otherwise all pictures from more than 5 years ago that are now uploaded should be refused for this reason...

It would also surprise me that the 3rd picture in the first group (this one : https://whatboyswant.com/images/forums-norm-1419520.jpg ) would be a cropped one....
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#5419347
Lvl 70
Quote:
Originally posted by boobiemonster
Obviously not everybody thinks that the last pic is bad quility because today this one of the same girl got accepted and I think the quality of the refused one was way better....
Nowhere in the rules there's stated that pictures have to be the same quality as 2024 , otherwise all pictures from more than 5 years ago that are now uploaded should be refused for this reason...

It would also surprise me that the 3rd picture in the first group (this one : ) would be a cropped one....

Agreed on the bad quality one. It's bad quality too and shouldn't have been accepted (I'll keep it there for the sake of the discussion).

What I meant mentionning the year is that what we'd see as decend quality 10 years ago isn't the same as now as quality of pictures in general has greatly improved over the years. So it was normal to have smaller size pics, with some blur back in the days, but now we can expect better standards (that's also why the picture size rule has evolved over the years).
Obviously we're not gonna start removing smaller pics or blurry pics from the beginning of the site.

As for the cropped pics, I can confirm you it is.
See the attached pic. Open both on a new tab and you'll see that the bottom of the one uploaded by vbollie was cropped. Yes, it's not much, but that's enough to fool the duplicate system. Feel free to upload the original one I attached though, I don't think it's pro but it might already be in the galleries and get detected as duplicate.
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#5419349
Lvl 24
Quote:
Originally posted by omuh

As for the cropped pics, I can confirm you it is.
See the attached pic. Open both on a new tab and you'll see that the bottom of the one uploaded by vbollie was cropped. Yes, it's not much, but that's enough to fool the duplicate system. Feel free to upload the original one I attached though, I don't think it's pro but it might already be in the galleries and get detected as duplicate.


Well done. You found 30-50px. Still too hard to contribute.
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#5419355
Lvl 32
From my reading of the new upload rules, the only time pictures with cropping are not allowed is if they have been cropped to remove a watermark. A cropped image otherwise is acceptable. There are many legitimate reasons to crop a picture - better composition (e.g., that closet door really isn't that important), focus on the woman, remove the naked man that many viewers here think will lead to their becoming bisexual or gay.
Also it doesn't really matter if we have the same fundamental picture in this massive database 2 or 3 times. Thank you
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#5419387
Lvl 40
Quote:
Originally posted by omuh
Agreed on the bad quality one. It's bad quality too and shouldn't have been accepted (I'll keep it there for the sake of the discussion).

What I meant mentionning the year is that what we'd see as decend quality 10 years ago isn't the same as now as quality of pictures in general has greatly improved over the years. So it was normal to have smaller size pics, with some blur back in the days, but now we can expect better standards (that's also why the picture size rule has evolved over the years).
Obviously we're not gonna start removing smaller pics or blurry pics from the beginning of the site.

As for the cropped pics, I can confirm you it is.
See the attached pic. Open both on a new tab and you'll see that the bottom of the one uploaded by vbollie was cropped. Yes, it's not much, but that's enough to fool the duplicate system. Feel free to upload the original one I attached though, I don't think it's pro but it might already be in the galleries and get detected as duplicate.


indeed it's slightly cropped....
But I don't agree that the one rejected for bad quality should have been.... you can check any day pictures were accepted the last days and you will find tons of pics that are more blurry than this one....
You have to keep in mind that you want amateur pics no pro pics , so it's wrong to put your expectations equal to the pics posted on onlyfans (because a lot of those are accepted)

2 more examples of same kind of bad quality or worse the were accepted recently (are currently in the trending pics on the homepage)
https://whatboyswant.com/babes/selfshots/4339178
https://whatboyswant.com/babes/selfshots/4339094
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#5419389
Lvl 40
Quote:
Originally posted by bob4funs1234
From my reading of the new upload rules, the only time pictures with cropping are not allowed is if they have been cropped to remove a watermark. A cropped image otherwise is acceptable. There are many legitimate reasons to crop a picture - better composition (e.g., that closet door really isn't that important), focus on the woman, remove the naked man that many viewers here think will lead to their becoming bisexual or gay.
Also it doesn't really matter if we have the same fundamental picture in this massive database 2 or 3 times. Thank you


the only reason a picture should be cropped is because you took it yourself and want to make an adjustment.
All pics found on the internet should be posted untouched....
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#5419393
Lvl 75
Quote:
Originally posted by strictguy
If anyone cares to know why I criticize the sentinel and omuh just go take a look at their uploads. Very few are nude and only a small percentage are even bikini/beach pics. To say other's pics "don't add anything to the site" or "they don't belong on a porn site" when their uploads don't meet that criteria just makes the hypocrites.


Once again (seeing as you’re evidently struggling to understand this), the two largest sections of babe image galleries are “non-nude” and “beach/bikini”.

These two sections currently have close to 500k images in each, all of which are uploaded by users of the website (not just by me and omuh or anyone else that you currently have an unhealthy obsession with). The fact that many different users upload so many of these images suggest they like them.

I can’t speak for ALL non-nude images, but, seeing as you have a hard-on for me I’ll use my uploads as examples, and the majority of my uploads are voted fairly highly. More evidence that these images are enjoyed/welcomed by some users of the site.

I’m not into bondage images, it’s really not my thing. But, I appreciate that many are, so I don’t post on here moaning about how these images should be rejected, I simply ignore them and move on with my life.
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#5419400
Lvl 75
I will also point out that although it is “too hard” to upload images to this website, the two original members that had the main issues with this are still adding to their upload queues over the last few days, even after initially suggesting they were “done with uploading”. Since this thread began, they have also had a fair few images make it through the “unfair” process and have a 75.08% and 72.77% upload success rate respectively (this is pretty good btw, not sure I come across many users with better than this).
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#5419433
Lvl 24
Quote:
Originally posted by The_Sentinel
have a 75.08% and 72.77% upload success rate respectively (this is pretty good btw, not sure I come across many users with better than this).


Suggest you recalculate Sentinel and focus only on photos … videos accept rate much easier (and the only way I think you’d ever get to
Group 1 or 2).

369 photos live
368 rejected (340 in reject queue, 28 in live log)
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50% accept rate.

Focus on catching the OF/pros (usually 2-3 at any time on trending), stop nitpicking 50-100px of cropping deemed “photoshop”, let users vote on quality.

Like for real:
https://whatboyswant.com/babes/selfshots/4142384 - so this passes quality (disregard size)

Moderator standards are different for different users… one guy who posts great shit, 100% of his last 4 posts are OF models, easily found. I want that moderating standard on my queue please
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