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Some ideas to improve the site (for users and mods)

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1) The image queue is massive and it takes a while to get through from a mod's perspective. Would it be a good idea to cut down the maximum length of queue a user can have? I noted a comment earlier where a mod stated a user had 2500 images in their queue (and the user has multiple accounts) which takes up a huge chunk of the queue size and moderator time. If the max queue size a user can have is indeed 2500 wouldn't it be a good idea to cut it down to 1000? Or even better, if every user can only have 500 in their image queue maximum then the queue would decrease dramatically and the uploads would be better quality.

Not only does it help the mods, and the users get a quicker upload time, it would also be fairer for those of us who upload nudes instead of clothed/bikini images. Anyone can scrape Instagram/Depop/Vinted/Social media for random images and the likelihood of it being taken down is slim, resulting in users who only upload clothed images having a much higher chance of a better upload score and the ability to upload even more images. It would result in better quality uploads and also save a fair bit of server space, rather than having potentially 10,000 extra images sitting in a queue that no one can view but costs money to maintain on the server.

There's already a lifetime worth of images on here going back nearly 20 years. There's plenty to enjoy so it would be awesome to keep future uploads high quality because we're now in an era where there's a lot of social media images being uploaded and to me that is generally low quality material for a site based on amateur porn. I'm not suggesting that the site stops accepting clothed ladies but there's users who are piling the site up with clothed women and that's an issue for a porn site.


2) On the subject of non-nude ladies, I've started to 'hide' users who upload mainly clothed images. Even if they have some nudes in there it's just easier to hide all of their content. It would be great if we had an option to filter certain categories from the site rather than hide a users full profile and uploads because some of it is non-nude/bikini images. Maybe there is already an option to filter certain categories from the front page or the trending page but if there is I can't find it and have had to fully block certain users and the list is growing quickly. Some of these profiles I blocked do have some nude images but my only option is to cut all of the uploads or none from specific users. I feel if there was an option, maybe a box to tick, that doesn't show you non-nude images or whatever category you're not interested in then there would be less complaints about non-nude/social media girls. I'm personally not overly keen on the creep-shots and a few other categories either so it would be great to be able to tailor that content with the click of a button.


3) Let users separate images from a series if it's in the wrong place. This would have to be accepted by a moderator before it takes effect, but it would cut some mod time as I understand it is a pain to separate images from large series if they're in the wrong place. If we had an interface that showed all images in the series, we could select each image that doesn't belong and click an 'accept' button and if the mod agrees with the changes they only have to accept the changes rather than do the hard work themselves.


4) Make the 'Tags' section work correctly. Almost nobody tags their images and while it is understandable, it renders the function almost useless when 99% of the images/videos on the site don't have tags and will be skipped. Once an upload is accepted by moderators, leave it in a queue where the user has to add at least 5 tags for the image to be added to the site. This would stop some users from uploading a million bikini photos they don't want to tag. If users keep tagging the images with poor or wrong tags then limit their uploads. It would make the site function better and again promote better quality content. I understand users get tokens for tagging images and while I can't speak for everyone, I barely use the tokens I get so I don't feel rewarded for tagging the images I upload.


5) Remove the cars section? How often is it used and how much server space does it take?
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#5445388
Lvl 41
Quote:
Originally posted by tututut1
1) The image queue is massive and it takes a while to get through from a mod's perspective. Would it be a good idea to cut down the maximum length of queue a user can have? I noted a comment earlier where a mod stated a user had 2500 images in their queue (and the user has multiple accounts) which takes up a huge chunk of the queue size and moderator time. If the max queue size a user can have is indeed 2500 wouldn't it be a good idea to cut it down to 1000? Or even better, if every user can only have 500 in their image queue maximum then the queue would decrease dramatically and the uploads would be better quality.


group 1 , group that allows the most uploads already has a limit of 1000 pics max....
If they know someone has several accounts to avoid the limitation just ban his accounts with the highest limit and let him keep the one with the lowest limit , just take reponsability instead of adapting the system . example sogood and his multiple accounts , they know it but do nothing , at the same time you avoid accepting multiple of his bikinipics....
sogood is not the only one with multiple accounts for this purpose.....
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#5445395
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Originally posted by boobiemonster
group 1 , group that allows the most uploads already has a limit of 1000 pics max....
If they know someone has several accounts to avoid the limitation just ban his accounts with the highest limit and let him keep the one with the lowest limit , just take reponsability instead of adapting the system . example sogood and his multiple accounts , they know it but do nothing , at the same time you avoid accepting multiple of his bikinipics....
sogood is not the only one with multiple accounts for this purpose.....


Maybe the '2500 images in the queue' quote was across multiple of his accounts (sogood and his multiple alts) but even 1000 is too much I'd argue. There's no need to have 1000 uploads at one time. Quality over quantity is always best but the upload system seems to favour quantity and awards uploaders with poor quality submissions. It's just making the queue massive and it takes a very long time for the mods to get round to your submissions.

I also agree his alt accounts should be closed as he's openly cheating the system.

I know sogood and his multiple accounts are trawling websites like Vinted for ladies selling bikinis etc as I have reverse searched some of his images and found them on websites like that. He's a good example of someone I've hidden and is bringing the quality of the site down in my opinion. This post isn't meant to be targeting anyone in specific though, I just feel that if some of those ideas were taken up then it would solve some of the problems pretty much instantly.
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#5445401
Lvl 6
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Originally posted by tututut1
I know sogood and his multiple accounts are trawling websites like Vinted for ladies selling bikinis etc as I have reverse searched some of his images and found them on websites like that. He's a good example of someone I've hidden and is bringing the quality of the site down in my opinion. This post isn't meant to be targeting anyone in specific though, I just feel that if some of those ideas were taken up then it would solve some of the problems pretty much instantly.

TutTutTut1 you're awesome and you love this website.
when we upload a picture, we have a silent agreement that the picture was provided to the uploader with consent. -excluded are the pictures that float the interwebs and are amateur.
what is illegal is uploading pictures/ screenshot from a private Dating Site. but also, any website with non-nude pictures applies a copyright on the pictures of persons depicted. Instagram is a commercial platform and like Flickr it applies copyright to the pictures/ content it provides. and it is certain that ripping pictures from those websites, you have zero consent to then upload those images/ persons here.
about (5) of the first post. well if there was a poll about discarding the Cars Gallery, certainly most users would vote for removing it. but I find that gallery very nice and it provides an alternative for the nudes/ porn here. also, pictures don't take too much server storage and... well... there are users who like the vehicle/ airplanes/ motos galleries!!
TY
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#5445409
Lvl 22
Keep the cars.
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#5445433
Lvl 47
On the first suggestion, I think it would be a great idea to disable uploading from multiple accounts per person. It IS openly cheating the system and results in everyone else having to wait even longer for their uploads to be addressed by mods.

For tagging, I’m not a big fan of requiring uploaders to tag their images before they go live. It would definitely reduce a lot of the uploads, but I think it would (1) reduce things on the back end after they’ve been seen by the mods, thereby not reducing the work or wait time for anyone, and (2) would result in poorly tagged images. Many users simply just wouldn’t tag the pics, leaving them in limbo, and I would bet that the majority that does tag would only do the minimum. When you’re looking for a specific pic or more of a niche, you aren’t going to find it with the tags “Caucasian”, “nonnude”, “bikini”, “face”, “beach.” Which isn’t altogether unhelpful, but I would rather see more users with tagging rights.
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#5445442
Lvl 55
Quote:
Originally posted by dariusslay
On the first suggestion, I think it would be a great idea to disable uploading from multiple accounts per person. It IS openly cheating the system and results in everyone else having to wait even longer for their uploads to be addressed by mods.

For tagging, I’m not a big fan of requiring uploaders to tag their images before they go live. It would definitely reduce a lot of the uploads, but I think it would (1) reduce things on the back end after they’ve been seen by the mods, thereby not reducing the work or wait time for anyone, and (2) would result in poorly tagged images. Many users simply just wouldn’t tag the pics, leaving them in limbo, and I would bet that the majority that does tag would only do the minimum. When you’re looking for a specific pic or more of a niche, you aren’t going to find it with the tags “Caucasian”, “nonnude”, “bikini”, “face”, “beach.” Which isn’t altogether unhelpful, but I would rather see more users with tagging rights.


I agree on this as I having tagging rights. Most taggers don't relies that a tag is link, click on it and takes you all pics tagged with such . stop putting on useless tags and put on relevant ones only. I have spoken!
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#5445792
Lvl 6
after reading thoughts here, well something radical would be: Freeze the babes uploading. the queue is full with thousand pictures, half of them will be reported or rejected. there don't exist much amateur nudes anymore other than the few extraordinarily high quality in MPixels that a handful of users upload.
the website has tons of pictures from all these years, freezing the new arrivals until the "overhauling" discussed on another thread happens, we can explore the galleries, tag, download and sort.
and the main dish of wbwcom is videos. the prices of premium membership have gone up because electricity, services, even the eggs we buy from the store have gone up. capitalism plays tricks and some say something is about to happen in the world. there are difficult situations and war or clashes around the globe and wbwcom needs to survive because it keeps us quality company. lastly, the Video section must be more organized and tagged and many other things (I had a sponsor memebership at some time).
these words don't fill an empty stomach but someone might find them interesting. TY
#5445795
Lvl 78
Quote:
Originally posted by tututut1
1) The image queue is massive and it takes a while to get through from a mod's perspective. Would it be a good idea to cut down the maximum length of queue a user can have? I noted a comment earlier where a mod stated a user had 2500 images in their queue (and the user has multiple accounts) which takes up a huge chunk of the queue size and moderator time. If the max queue size a user can have is indeed 2500 wouldn't it be a good idea to cut it down to 1000? Or even better, if every user can only have 500 in their image queue maximum then the queue would decrease dramatically and the uploads would be better quality.


Reducing everyone's queue size would certainly help - people would be more selective about what they add to their queue perhaps. But we would also need to have something in place that limits one account per IP address, otherwise people will continue to circumnavigate the queue limitations by simply creating more accounts.

I have recently thought that a monthly limit would also help. So rather than having a rolling image allowance that keeps regenerating when a user's images are approved/rejected, each user's upload allowance is just that; 1000 images for the month (for exampe), but once you have added 1000 images to your queue, that's you done until the following month, irrespective of how many of those images are approved/rejected. Just a thought anyway 🤷‍♂️


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Originally posted by tututut1
3) Let users separate images from a series if it's in the wrong place. This would have to be accepted by a moderator before it takes effect, but it would cut some mod time as I understand it is a pain to separate images from large series if they're in the wrong place. If we had an interface that showed all images in the series, we could select each image that doesn't belong and click an 'accept' button and if the mod agrees with the changes they only have to accept the changes rather than do the hard work themselves.


If we had that interface available, it would make the ungrouping of images a lot easier for the mods. Currently if 50 images of one woman are incorrectly joined with a 5000 series of another woman, the moderator has to find and open all 50 images seperately, unlink them all, and then link those 50 together again. It's a ball-ache, as I'm sure you can imagine. I wouldn't necessarily allow users to un-group series' though as there are idiots out there that like to cause work/trouble for the fun of it.


Quote:
Originally posted by tututut1
4) Make the 'Tags' section work correctly. Almost nobody tags their images and while it is understandable, it renders the function almost useless when 99% of the images/videos on the site don't have tags and will be skipped. Once an upload is accepted by moderators, leave it in a queue where the user has to add at least 5 tags for the image to be added to the site. This would stop some users from uploading a million bikini photos they don't want to tag. If users keep tagging the images with poor or wrong tags then limit their uploads. It would make the site function better and again promote better quality content. I understand users get tokens for tagging images and while I can't speak for everyone, I barely use the tokens I get so I don't feel rewarded for tagging the images I upload.


It would be interesting to know how many people actually use the tagging system to find images anyway but I don't disagree with this suggestion. Forcing people to tag their own uploads (even if it's just 5-10, say) would certainly improve that part of the website (assuming people use it).


I say that the above ideas would all benefit the website but I have zero clue how the back-end of creating a website actually works. What I do know is Diz does all of that on his own, so although these ideas are great, it might be unrealistic to apply perhaps.
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#5445797
Lvl 78
Quote:
Originally posted by acidlust
when we upload a picture, we have a silent agreement that the picture was provided to the uploader with consent. -excluded are the pictures that float the interwebs and are amateur.
what is illegal is uploading pictures/ screenshot from a private Dating Site. but also, any website with non-nude pictures applies a copyright on the pictures of persons depicted. Instagram is a commercial platform and like Flickr it applies copyright to the pictures/ content it provides. and it is certain that ripping pictures from those websites, you have zero consent to then upload those images/ persons here.


I'm not sure I agree fully with this. Firstly, I think if images on social media accounts were NOT allowed to be uploaded onto websites like this one (hosted in the Netherlands) then I would've thought Diz would know this and those images would be banned already. It's not like Instagram is a new platform.

Also I don't see the difference between clothed and nude images in this regard - just because a woman has been naked/topless when her photo was taken, doesn't mean she has given the photographer the right to distribute said image wherever they please. And most nude/topless images uploaded to WBW are most certainly not photographs taken by the member; for the most part they have taken them from other websites.

I may have misunderstood your point, and if that is the case then I apologise.
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#5445810
Lvl 28
Quote:
Originally posted by DrunkRandall33
I agree on this as I having tagging rights. Most taggers don't relies that a tag is link, click on it and takes you all pics tagged with such . stop putting on useless tags and put on relevant ones only. I have spoken!


And to add to the tagging issue....... those that have tagging privilege's should have the ability to remove other's tags that are incorrect
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#5445814
Lvl 6
Quote:
Originally posted by The_Sentinel
I may have misunderstood your point, ....

no, my english is not the best.
Quote:
Originally posted by The_Sentinel
I'm not sure I agree fully with this. Firstly, I think if images on social media accounts were NOT allowed to be uploaded onto websites like this one (hosted in the Netherlands) then I would've thought Diz would know this and those images would be banned already. It's not like Instagram is a new platform.

I did a search and it seems Insta does not copyrights the content provided by users, it only has certain permissions to reuse it. I was wrong about this. now about other websites Tuttuttut1 mentioned, I don't know. and yes, Diz has lwayers, he would probably know if there was a problem.
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Originally posted by The_Sentinel
Also I don't see the difference between clothed and nude images in this regard - just because a woman has been naked/topless when her photo was taken, doesn't mean she has given the photographer the right to distribute said image wherever they please.
And most nude/topless images uploaded to WBW are most certainly not photographs taken by the member; for the most part they have taken them from other websites.

a woman might not want her nude diplay in public view. that's one difference I see about clothed/ nude. but this is obvious and of-course wbwcom is covered legally and it also has the reporting function. but of course you're right when you write "In that Regard, ...]
well as a moderator you know that most pictures are from other websites, I didn't. however there are websites that are dark and barely legal and they apply a logo on the picture they provide. then someone crops it and posts it somewhere and then it gets uploaded here. well, this is laundering.
but there are users here who upload pictures they took themshelves or pictures who are freely provided to everyone by the person in them and these two occasions are very nice.
TY for replying, some things were resolved in my head.
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#5445820
Lvl 28
Regarding people with multiple accounts, let us review certain sections of the terms of service : https://whatboyswant.com/termsofservice

"8. TERMINATION
You agree that we, in our sole and unfettered discretion, may terminate your access to our Service for any reason, including, without limitation, your breach of these Terms. You agree that any termination of your access to our Service may be effected without prior notice, and acknowledge and agree that we may immediately deactivate or delete any of your accounts and all related information and files in such accounts and/or bar any further access to such files or our Service. Further, you agree that we will not be liable to you or any third party for any termination of your access to our Service."

So section 8 says in "legaleze" basically says "we (WBW B.V.) can terminate your account at any time for any reason".

Perhaps those that "abuse" system or are even suspect of if can get a direct warning from a mod and if the behavior continues they can get their account terminated/deleted. This goes for those with multiple accounts and those repeatedly posting duplicates/edits/mirrors etc.

I will be sharing these same thoughts at the "agotsilac and his mirrored/cropped pics" thread.

PS: I am NOT a mod (and do not wish to be at this time) but just a loyal, concerned and premium member
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#5445877
Lvl 34
when we upload a picture, we have a silent agreement that the picture was provided to the uploader with consent. -excluded are the pictures that float the interwebs and are amateur.
what is illegal is uploading pictures/ screenshot from a private Dating Site. but also, any website with non-nude pictures applies a copyright on the pictures of persons depicted. Instagram is a commercial platform and like Flickr it applies copyright to the pictures/ content it provides. and it is certain that ripping pictures from those websites, you have zero consent to then upload those images/ persons here.

As The_Sentinel has commented, this is not true. I would wager most pictures come from other websites and we look at the pictures and judge them to be amateur and available for posting here. I would have to guess that many "social media" sites would want their pictures taken off here if they knew they were posted on WBW. However, even if pictures have a watermark from another site in some searches, it does not mean that site owns them. I have found numerous examples of pictures I have taken and own on other websites and often they watermark them.

Secondly, I agree with tututu1 about a monthly limit of say 250 images per user to shift the focus to quality and not quantity. Thank you.
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#5445878
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Originally posted by The_Sentinel
Reducing everyone's queue size would certainly help.


Seems like a no brainer to me, and something most of the valued members here would get behind!

Quote:
Originally posted by The_Sentinel
1000 images for the month (for exampe), but once you have added 1000 images to your queue, that's you done until the following month, irrespective of how many of those images are approved/rejected.


That's a good idea that would also help, although I'd imagine at the 'end of the month' certain users would pile a full 1000 images (or their full allowance) into the queue at once. Limiting users to 250 images (for example) at all times would stop the queue size from jumping up drastically in one go...

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Originally posted by The_Sentinel
It would be interesting to know how many people actually use the tagging system to find images anyway but I don't disagree with this suggestion. Forcing people to tag their own uploads (even if it's just 5-10, say) would certainly improve that part of the website (assuming people use it).


Personally I used it a lot when I first found this website, it's really the only way to search the images/videos in any sort of depth out-with the generic 'beach babe', 'topless babe' etc. I only stopped using it when I realised I was cutting off 99% of the content as they weren't tagged. If the tag feature worked better I'd absolutely use it frequently but I can only speak for myself.
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#5445940
Lvl 71
@tututtut1
1) Agreed. Either reduce the queue limit or add more limitations (like Sentinel suggested, a monthly limit) and/or re-add the ability for some mods to temporarily remove upload rights for some users (for example people who abuse the system or have the majority of their uploads not respect one rule, repeatedly.
Multi-account upload shouldn't be allowed as well...

2) You can actually filter out some categories. When viewing pics (like when you click on "new" or on a date, you should have a little sorting icon right abive the page numbers. Click it and you can choose the categories you want and only those will appear in the feed.

3) You can report a pic as not belonging into a series. But I do agree with you and Sentinel that the series system is a pain to deal with when it comes to fixing mistakes, especially on big series.

4) I'll reply a bit later about the tags as it's something I have a lot of experience with but don't have the time to elaborate right now. Another thing that would be nice would be that mods can actually add tags when they accept a picture/movie. Sure would take more mod time, but could help have base tags on each pics.
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#5445942
Lvl 41
found a serie with 103 pics/videos in it and the girl seems to have a page on onlyfans....
Do I have to report every single pic or is there a way to report the complete serie to get it all removed ?
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#5445943
Lvl 71
Quote:
Originally posted by boobiemonster
found a serie with 103 pics/videos in it and the girl seems to have a page on onlyfans....
Do I have to report every single pic or is there a way to report the complete serie to get it all removed ?

You could report just one and state that the whole series is pro. If it's Diz who deal with the report, he can delete the whole thing at once.
If you notice later on that only the one you reported has been deleted, then just send me the link.
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#5445944
Lvl 71
So, about tags. I've been tag manager for a while in the past and when tags were no longer doable by anyone but only by taggers, I tried recruiting as many good taggers as possible.
The main issue was that people would not be as active in the long term (understandable) and needing constantly new taggers.
That and people not understanding some tag definition and making tagging mistakes.

Lately, I've just been tagging and fixing mistakes and even now that the only people able to add tags are people with tagging right, there are still regular mistakes that are made. Some are just small misunderstandings like confusing stocking and pantyhose for example. But I've seen some pics that are constantly tagged with nonsense (like "feet" on a pic of a girl from the waist up, stuff like that). I don't know if it's from an uploader who also has tagging rights and wants as many tags on their pics to be seen, or someone who just tags at random...

More taggers and more pics tags would make sense, but if you open the gate to everybody, you risk having tons of pics tagged with nonsense, either because some people don't understand what the tag means, or done on purpose.
So I'm a bit on the fence when it comes to that. It's a bit of quality VS quantity kinda case, as in do you want more content in general to be tagged but with the risk of lots of mistakes meaning when you look for tag, the results might be polluted or, pics tagged rather accurately but knowing you're missing out on a lot of content when searching with tags.
Ideally there could be more systems in place to allow more people to tag while still keeping some quality control, but that would mean more development for Diz. Not sure where he's at right now, especially with the mod/report revamp.

Even just the tag search page itself could use more feature (like excluding tags for example)
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#5445960
Quote:
Originally posted by omuh
So, about tags. I've been tag manager for a while in the past and when tags were no longer doable by anyone but only by taggers, I tried recruiting as many good taggers as possible.
The main issue was that people would not be as active in the long term (understandable) and needing constantly new taggers.
That and people not understanding some tag definition and making tagging mistakes.

Lately, I've just been tagging and fixing mistakes and even now that the only people able to add tags are people with tagging right, there are still regular mistakes that are made. Some are just small misunderstandings like confusing stocking and pantyhose for example. But I've seen some pics that are constantly tagged with nonsense (like "feet" on a pic of a girl from the waist up, stuff like that). I don't know if it's from an uploader who also has tagging rights and wants as many tags on their pics to be seen, or someone who just tags at random...

More taggers and more pics tags would make sense, but if you open the gate to everybody, you risk having tons of pics tagged with nonsense, either because some people don't understand what the tag means, or done on purpose.
So I'm a bit on the fence when it comes to that. It's a bit of quality VS quantity kinda case, as in do you want more content in general to be tagged but with the risk of lots of mistakes meaning when you look for tag, the results might be polluted or, pics tagged rather accurately but knowing you're missing out on a lot of content when searching with tags.
Ideally there could be more systems in place to allow more people to tag while still keeping some quality control, but that would mean more development for Diz. Not sure where he's at right now, especially with the mod/report revamp.

Even just the tag search page itself could use more feature (like excluding tags for example)


Would it help if the tags were simplified? There are a lot of options and it might be quite daunting for some I guess.

Personally I like how there's so many options for tagging as it results in a more refined search but then you're relying on the tagger being more accurate and some of them are open to interpretation like 'tits xxlarge' and 'tits huge' for example, they're both the same thing in my eyes.
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