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How long does it take to get pics approved?

Starter: iFaPuL8ToR Posted: 2 years ago Views: 1.6K
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#5258907
Lvl 39
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Originally posted by dariusslay
I'm not sure why some people seem to think that mods here would automatically know all pros and therefore be 100% accurate and consistent.

I'm also not sure how much people think the mods get paid to mod this site. Given the demands about how they should be doing the job, I have a sneaking suspicion that they think the compensation is more than it is...


I've never said the mods should know all the pros, my complaint has always been having pics rejected as pro, but seeing the exact same pics uploaded by someone else a week later. If one mod can catch it by reverse image search, or some other means, then why can't all the mods use the same system so that doesn't happen? Diz said a month ago he was going to write a new set of guide lines, but nobody has seen it.
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#5258909
Lvl 39
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Originally posted by dariusslay
Yes, I'm aware that there is no compensation aside from having a paid membership for free. Which makes demands that mods stop using and enjoying the site and "do their job" more ridiculous. Forego your only benefit mods, and put in more free hours!

Yes, reverse image search is great. It's not perfect, but it's great. It gets less perfect when images have been altered. When it doesn't pull up a pro as being a pro, that helps explain how one mod will approve a pic where another one will reject since the one that rejected a picture may be relying on memory. It's just one of the several ways that a human element is at play for more than just judgment calls on underage or not.

And, of course, the need to reverse image search will greatly slow down the entire moderation process in the first place.


It doesn't matter to me if mods upload pics, but when one of them is averaging over 20 pics uploaded per day when there is such a backlog of other members pics in the queue, it kind of seems like all they're doing is using that free paid membership to pad their stats.

As for images being altered, I was told by more than one mod that the system catches "ALL" altered/photo shopped pics. If that's true, then cropping or altering size shouldn't matter. You can't blame it on human error if the program is as good as they say it is. If it takes 2 to 3 weeks to have pics approved/rejected now, I don't think reverse images searches would slow it down that much, but at least there wouldn't be pics approved that were rejected for someone else.
#5258979
Lvl 58
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Originally posted by strictguy
I've never said the mods should know all the pros, my complaint has always been having pics rejected as pro, but seeing the exact same pics uploaded by someone else a week later. If one mod can catch it by reverse image search, or some other means, then why can't all the mods use the same system so that doesn't happen? Diz said a month ago he was going to write a new set of guide lines, but nobody has seen it.


Again, there's the human element portion. Mods will make mistakes from time-to-time, and I'm sure you know that and are generally fine with it. But for example, there's a pic on the front page right now that's trending that doesn't pull up anything (aside from a link back to WBW) in a reverse image search. But I know that's Brooke Marks because I recognize the set. So two mods could see that pic and one could approve it because the reverse image search pulls up nothing and they don't recognize the woman, whereas the other mod will reject it. Same pic, same system, but different result due to the human element.
#5258981
Lvl 58
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Originally posted by strictguy
It doesn't matter to me if mods upload pics, but when one of them is averaging over 20 pics uploaded per day when there is such a backlog of other members pics in the queue, it kind of seems like all they're doing is using that free paid membership to pad their stats.

As for images being altered, I was told by more than one mod that the system catches "ALL" altered/photo shopped pics. If that's true, then cropping or altering size shouldn't matter. You can't blame it on human error if the program is as good as they say it is. If it takes 2 to 3 weeks to have pics approved/rejected now, I don't think reverse images searches would slow it down that much, but at least there wouldn't be pics approved that were rejected for someone else.


I'm NOT a big tech guy, but I don't think that the system can catch all altered pics. Someone may very well teach me something new on that one, but I think you may have been misled if someone told you that the system can or will catch all altered pics.

We can agree to disagree about how much time would be added to a queue review time if pics are not reverse-image searched v. all pics are reverse-image searched. Without a reverse image search, I think I would take 15-20 seconds per pic on average to review once I look at the picture, check for watermarks, check for minors in the background, determine if it fits the other rules, see if I recognize the woman, etc. With a reverse image search, I'm doing all of that and then more than doubling the review time by the time search loads and I check out the results. It would be substantially longer than that if there are a lot of results, but nothing that definitively says who the person is and whether she's pro or not.
#5258985
Lvl 39
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Originally posted by dariusslay
Again, there's the human element portion. Mods will make mistakes from time-to-time, and I'm sure you know that and are generally fine with it. But for example, there's a pic on the front page right now that's trending that doesn't pull up anything (aside from a link back to WBW) in a reverse image search. But I know that's Brooke Marks because I recognize the set. So two mods could see that pic and one could approve it because the reverse image search pulls up nothing and they don't recognize the woman, whereas the other mod will reject it. Same pic, same system, but different result due to the human element.


I can easily understand that, but someone, Diz, needs to tell certain mods to stop putting out bullshit information.
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Originally posted by dariusslay
I'm NOT a big tech guy, but I don't think that the system can catch all altered pics. Someone may very well teach me something new on that one, but I think you may have been misled if someone told you that the system can or will catch all altered pics.

We can agree to disagree about how much time would be added to a queue review time if pics are not reverse-image searched v. all pics are reverse-image searched. Without a reverse image search, I think I would take 15-20 seconds per pic on average to review once I look at the picture, check for watermarks, check for minors in the background, determine if it fits the other rules, see if I recognize the woman, etc. With a reverse image search, I'm doing all of that and then more than doubling the review time by the time search loads and I check out the results. It would be substantially longer than that if there are a lot of results, but nothing that definitively says who the person is and whether she's pro or not.


Here again its the mods putting out bad info to the members, and no one has ever explained how if the system can catch a photo as 'duplicate' for me, why will it get uploaded by someone else later on? The excuse I got was the pic was resized, but at the same time I had other pics rejected as altered/photo shopped that showed up on other members uploads. The exact same pics. If the so called system works so great for one, why doesn't it work the same for everybody?
#5259101
Lvl 43
Quote:
Originally posted by strictguy
Members don't start out being able to upload 1000 pics. Their first limit is either 50 or 100 pics. If it takes 2 to 3 weeks to have those pics moderated, that's 2 to 3 weeks he can't upload anymore. 3 weeks later he uploads another 100 pics and the same thing happens. Unless you immediately jump to group 1 and 1000 pics, there is no way anyone should be able to reach over 12,000 pics uploaded in 21 months.
You had pics rejected because of a mods 'personal taste', same here, but why should a mod be able to reject any photo without a justifiable reason? That smacks of favoritism also.


I give it another try....

I'm a newbie and make a new account today , I'm able to post 100 pictures from the start....
3 or 4 weeks later they're accepted and my acceptancerate is higher than 90%
My uploadstatus is changed and from now on I can post 1000 pictures evey month because I'm in the highest group....
I have 20 months left to reach 12K of pictures (21 months -1 when I was only able to post 100)
So it's possible you just have to see that you keep minimum 90% of acceptancerate....
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#5259103
Lvl 43
As I see it there are 3 situations where duplicates are handeled...

1- you upload pictures and the systems finds out those are already on the site they get rejected immediately , they don't get in the queue (the only way the system can find out a duplidate). System is not gonna find the cropped pictures just like reverse search don't find them...
2- picture is in the queue and gets moderated , moderator has already seen this picture here before so he refuse it and flag it as duplicate.
3- picture was accepted and is reported by another user. It gets removed and flagged as duplicate
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#5259113
Lvl 39
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Originally posted by boobiemonster
I give it another try....

I'm a newbie and make a new account today , I'm able to post 100 pictures from the start....
3 or 4 weeks later they're accepted and my acceptancerate is higher than 90%
My uploadstatus is changed and from now on I can post 1000 pictures evey month because I'm in the highest group....
I have 20 months left to reach 12K of pictures (21 months -1 when I was only able to post 100)
So it's possible you just have to see that you keep minimum 90% of acceptancerate....


So what you're saying is a new member can get their upload limit to 1000 just by having a 90% approval rate in their first 100 photo upload? That is sheer stupidity! Its catering to all the newbies and screwing all the long time members. No wonder I'm not the only one who refuses to upload anything to this site!
#5259115
Lvl 43
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Originally posted by strictguy
So what you're saying is a new member can get their upload limit to 1000 just by having a 90% approval rate in their first 100 photo upload? That is sheer stupidity! Its catering to all the newbies and screwing all the long time members. No wonder I'm not the only one who refuses to upload anything to this site!


no , I'm saying that if you get 90% of approval in your first 100 you get a uploadlimit of 1000 pictures , if you don't keep a high rate in your next approvals your uploadlimit will drop down to a lower group...
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#5259117
Lvl 39
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Originally posted by boobiemonster
no , I'm saying that if you get 90% of approval in your first 100 you get a uploadlimit of 1000 pictures , if you don't keep a high rate in your next approvals your uploadlimit will drop down to a lower group...


That's exactly what I just said! By letting new members jump from a limit of 100 to 1000 on their first upload this site is screwing all the long time members.
#5259119
Lvl 43
Quote:
Originally posted by strictguy
That's exactly what I just said! By letting new members jump from a limit of 100 to 1000 on their first upload this site is screwing all the long time members.


it's you screwing up the explanation because you don't want to understand.....(Im' no admin or mod so that's only how I think it goes....)
How many people will upload 1000 pictures in once ?
If I upload 100 get in the 1000-group and upload 50 more and and they're all refused my uploadgroup will already have been changed and will drop down dramaticaly...
You can't think straight or you're messing up every explanation for the purpose of your frustration about the site....
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#5259165
Lvl 20
strictguy, it's not worthy your precious time, i first thought everyone make mistakes but these mods are just useless
#5259179
Lvl 39
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Originally posted by boobiemonster
it's you screwing up the explanation because you don't want to understand.....(Im' no admin or mod so that's only how I think it goes....)
How many people will upload 1000 pictures in once ?
If I upload 100 get in the 1000-group and upload 50 more and and they're all refused my uploadgroup will already have been changed and will drop down dramaticaly...
You can't think straight or you're messing up every explanation for the purpose of your frustration about the site....


Do you actually believe your explanation? Just how dense are you? You're trying to tell me your upload limit and group went from 100 to 1000 after one group of photos? If that was true then as I said this site is really fucked! You're not a mod and don't know what you're talking about, its only how you think it goes and you're wrong.
#5259181
Lvl 39
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Originally posted by Sanje
strictguy, it's not worthy your precious time, i first thought everyone make mistakes but these mods are just useless


Not all the mods are worthless, only the newer ones Diz has gotten in the last 3 or 4 years. They all think they're gods and none of them can answer a question without it being bullshit.
#5259183
Lvl 43
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Originally posted by strictguy
Do you actually believe your explanation? Just how dense are you? You're trying to tell me your upload limit and group went from 100 to 1000 after one group of photos? If that was true then as I said this site is really fucked! You're not a mod and don't know what you're talking about, its only how you think it goes and you're wrong.


QED
What are your uploadstats ? do you dare show them ?
And what is the truth then ?
you stated in a previous post and tried to use the avg babes given score from justmee ? You don't even know where you can find the uploadstats , how they look like and that you can't see those of another user (you just should bow your head in shame instead of reply stupidly)
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#5259189
Lvl 39
Quote:
Originally posted by boobiemonster
QED
What are your uploadstats ? do you dare show them ?
And what is the truth then ?
you stated in a previous post and tried to use the avg babes given score from justmee ? You don't even know where you can find the uploadstats , how they look like and that you can't see those of another user (you just should bow your head in shame instead of reply stupidly)


You keep pointing out that you jumped from 100 pics to 1000 after just one upload. I think you're full of shit!
As for upload stats, I can do the math you moron. Justmee has over 12,000 pics uploaded and he's only been here 21 months. That comes out to an average of about 20 pics uploaded every single day! Now if what the mods keep saying about the queue having 13,000 pics in it and it takes 2 to 3 weeks for pics to be approved or rejected, how in the hell can that be possible without his pics being given special treatment? All you have to do is look through the new babes pics for a few days and you'll see the vast majority of the members with the highest amount of pictures uploaded are people who have been on the site less than 3 years.
#5259219
Lvl 20
lol, i just saw justmeee upload history and he is also a mod, no wonder then, who the hell chose this pathetic mods
#5259221
Lvl 44
Guys. The "trick" is to upload 2-3 pics a day. So you can continuously upload some every day.
And for your information, the chicks from Reddit or only fans I would not accept.

Camwhores =\= amateurs!

@sanje all your currently uploaded girls are not amateurs. You are uploading quasi-pros and you are complaining that there are rejected.
I'm on this site since 2003. I had another nickname. Admin checked it and I was accepted.
Everyone can. Just talk to people instead of moaning that "everyone are bad ones and I'm the good guy here".
I'm not better as you or something. It's my hobby. I'm not being paid. I've just got plenty of time because I don't need to work.
Don't be mad at me. Just try to improve yourself ❤️
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#5259225
Lvl 20
lol, im not mad, like i said many times before im well aware why my pics are rejected and then the same pic/girl is approved for another member and ive seen your uploads and others many of them are of girls, insta models, pornstars etc. only a handful of members can upload daily anything they like with no restrictions, incompetent mods with double standards
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#5259229
Lvl 39
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Originally posted by justmeee
Guys. The "trick" is to upload 2-3 pics a day. So you can continuously upload some every day.
And for your information, the chicks from Reddit or only fans I would not accept.

Camwhores =\= amateurs!

@sanje all your currently uploaded girls are not amateurs. You are uploading quasi-pros and you are complaining that there are rejected.
I'm on this site since 2003. I had another nickname. Admin checked it and I was accepted.
Everyone can. Just talk to people instead of moaning that "everyone are bad ones and I'm the good guy here".
I'm not better as you or something. It's my hobby. I'm not being paid. I've just got plenty of time because I don't need to work.
Don't be mad at me. Just try to improve yourself ❤️


@ Justmee - I really don't care how long you say you've been here. I checked your very first photo posted and it says uploaded 1 year ago so your profile and saying you've been here since 2003 makes those statements seem pretty fishy. As for your so called 'trick' to upload so many pics, that's bullshit too.
All you mods keep harping on how the queue has 13,000 pics waiting to be moderated and hundreds more being added each day according to Sentinel.
OK if I take the mods words for this how can someone average, that's average 10 to 20 pics per day being uploaded? Here is how I see it.
If my limit is 100 pics and I upload 10 pics per day for 10 days I'm done. Now I have to wait 2 to 3 weeks for the first 10 pics to get moderated. Follow me so far? Now I can upload 10 more pics, but they're going to be behind all those hundreds of pics other members have been uploading every day I didn't upload my full allotment. It may get me 1 or 2 pics uploaded each day, but it sure won't get 13,000 pics loaded in 21 months! Even if your limit was 1000 and you uploaded 100 pics per day, your pics fall behind those uploaded by other members the previous days. If the pics are supposed to be so randomly sent to the mods, how can one member manage to get over half and sometimes 3/4ths of the pics put in the babe section that day? Its even harder to figure out if the sentinel is being truthful about "hundreds" of members uploading pics each day.

Here is what I think:
1) This site doesn't have all the thousands of members it says it has. Want proof? Go to archives and the first year this site was up. Start checking which members uploaded pics and their 'last on line' date. There are a hell of a lot of members being carried that haven't logged on in 5, 7, 10, even 15 years.
2) I'm betting the total active members who log in each day is probably less than 300 at the most, and all of them aren't uploading pics every day either.
3) All the mods keep saying 13,000 pics in the queue. Fine, then why is there hardly ever more than 20 to 25 different members getting pics uploaded? I'll
bet over the last 3 years you can't find 10 days with more than maybe 50 members with pics uploaded, and even then the majority of them are always going to be the same people.

When I first joined this site there were a lot of different people uploading and there were a lot of different kinds of pics. Now its becoming instagram 2 with all the fashion pics or those looking like store window manikins. I'd like to see this site get better, but every time something is said we're called complainers and all we get are smart ass answers from the mods. Diz said a month ago he was going to ask for suggestions, but he must not care very much because I haven't seen a damn thing from him in the forums section about it.
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