How long does it take to approve uploads?

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Originally posted by omuh

The answer is simple : those people who regularely get their uploads on the website actually upload pics regularely too. They don't upload ALL their pics at once, they upload more and more regularely. So the pics you see appearing on the website are pics they uploaded a while ago, like anyone else, but at this point they already have more pics pending, because they keep uploading (and have a big upload size for the good uploaders).

This is demonstrably untrue, as is the allegation that certain uploaders aren't favored. Sometimes someone will strip a picture off Reddit - and it's always the same user names - and it's here within hours. It somehow, for certain people who do this often, skips right over the queue.

The explanations being provided in this thread don't match the reality on the site.

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Originally posted by thegatsbe

This is demonstrably untrue, as is the allegation that certain uploaders aren't favored. Sometimes someone will strip a picture off Reddit - and it's always the same user names - and it's here within hours. It somehow, for certain people who do this often, skips right over the queue.

The explanations being provided in this thread don't match the reality on the site.

Well, The Sentinel explained earlier in the thread that depending on the user upload score, their priority in the queue and their upload queue size will change. So technically, yes, the site favour good uploaders but it's an automated process.
Unless the system changed, picture mods cannot technically bypass the queue since they only get served pictures automatically to mod.

Now I don't know to what extent the priority to good uploader goes (as in, does it give them a few less days in the queue or greatly reduces it), maybe Dizzy could give more specifics on that, but unless some queue mods (and there shouldn't be many) are specifically accepting stuff from certains users (which I'd then agree would be unfair), there's no human input in how the queue is processed (again, provided the system hasn't changed).

[reply=omuh]The answer is simple : those people who regularely get their uploads on the website actually upload pics regularely too. They don't upload ALL their pics at once, they upload more and more regularely. So the pics you see appearing on the website are pics they uploaded a while ago, like anyone else, but at this point they already have more pics pending, because they keep uploading (and have a big upload size for the good uploaders).
You can try it yourself. Just upload 10 pics now, then 10 pics a few days later and so on. Then you'll see your pics regularely uploaded (if they are accepted of course). Those uploaders to the same, but with bigger numbers, that's all.

If that's the case then why is it if I uploaded 100 pics, 10 might get approved or rejected one day, but it will take 3 or 4 days before 10 more pics get checked, and this goes on until all the pics are gone through which might be 5 or 6 weeks. During this time I could upload more pics, but the don't get approved any faster. As for priority numbers, why aren't they posted so everyone can see who is at the top of the list. That would help explain why certain members get their pics posted faster.

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Originally posted by strictguy

If that's the case then why is it if I uploaded 100 pics, 10 might get approved or rejected one day, but it will take 3 or 4 days before 10 more pics get checked, and this goes on until all the pics are gone through which might be 5 or 6 weeks. During this time I could upload more pics, but the don't get approved any faster. As for priority numbers, why aren't they posted so everyone can see who is at the top of the list. That would help explain why certain members get their pics posted faster.

I explained in my first post here why you may see pics rejected very quickly : queue mods can scan the queue quickly to remove anything that is easy to spot, regardless of the queue order. It's a way to quikly remove bulks of obvious "bad" stuff. Nothing should be accepted from that though, it's only a way to quickly delete items. So aside from a bug, I don't think your example is correct.
Normally you might see stuff disapearing quickly (depending on queue mods activity) and then after the queue time, you'll see the remaining get rejected/accepted (which will be the action of regular moderation).

As for the priority specifics, yeah, could be nice to know them. I don't personnaly know those.

(Keep in mind, this is based on past activity as a mod, so things may have changed since then. It's been a few years since ^^)

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Originally posted by omuh

I explained in my first post here why you may see pics rejected very quickly : queue mods can scan the queue quickly to remove anything that is easy to spot, regardless of the queue order. It's a way to quikly remove bulks of obvious "bad" stuff. Nothing should be accepted from that though, it's only a way to quickly delete items. So aside from a bug, I don't think your example is correct.
Normally you might see stuff disapearing quickly (depending on queue mods activity) and then after the queue time, you'll see the remaining get rejected/accepted (which will be the action of regular moderation).

As for the priority specifics, yeah, could be nice to know them. I don't personnaly know those.

(Keep in mind, this is based on past activity as a mod, so things may have changed since then. It's been a few years since ^^)

You didn't understand what I said. All the rejects aren't done at the same time. 7 to 10 pics might get approved or rejected, but the rest just sit in the queue. Then a week later 7 to 10 more pics might get checked through. The last time I uploaded any pics it took over 5 weeks to finally get all 100 pics approved or rejected. As for priority numbers, its just another way of showing favoritism to certain individuals. Throw out the priority and moderate the pics in order as they're uploaded, then it will be fair!

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Originally posted by strictguy

You didn't understand what I said. All the rejects aren't done at the same time. 7 to 10 pics might get approved or rejected, but the rest just sit in the queue. Then a week later 7 to 10 more pics might get checked through. The last time I uploaded any pics it took over 5 weeks to finally get all 100 pics approved or rejected. As for priority numbers, its just another way of showing favoritism to certain individuals. Throw out the priority and moderate the pics in order as they're uploaded, then it will be fair!

Ok, so it's normal that all pics aren't accepted at the same exact time. For example, let's say you upload 100 pics and the current queue time is around 3 weeks. Here what will most likely happen and why :
- during the 3 weeks, you might see of your upload get rejected, fast or not : this is the action of queue mods cleaning the queue quickly from easy to spot items.
- then around the 3 weeks mark, you'll start seeing some accepted/rejected but not all : this is because the queue doesn't give pictures to mod in a perfect order but it will take the x oldest pictures, randomise their order and then serve them to mod. Why? It's made to avoid cases where someone would upload a batch of hundreds of pictures and then the only pics you'd see on the site for a while would only be their. With the little randomisation at the end, it still mix uploads up so that there is still variety uploaded on the site. So this will make it so that your 100 uploads will probably be moderated over a few days as they gradually appear into the current random mix.

As for favoritism, you may want to reread its definition. Favouring someone means giving them an advantage based on a partial reason. For example if mods were accepting stuff from their friends quicker.
Having a system that rewards users based on the quality of their upload isn't favoritism as it's impartial. There's a set rule and that's it. You may disagree with the rule itself, but that's not favoritism.
The same way you get credits for contributing to the site. You're not given credits because a staff likes you more than others (favoritism), you're given credits based on a set of rules (uploads, posts, votes etc.)

There was a time where there was no limit to uploads, no upload score and no priority. What happened was that some users with very poor uploads would spam the queue with shit stuff and slow queue time even more, giving mods unecessary work and lower quality galleries at times. That's why this sytem exists to reward quality uploads so that it's easier to currate it.

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Originally posted by omuh

Ok, so it's normal that all pics aren't accepted at the same exact time. For example, let's say you upload 100 pics and the current queue time is around 3 weeks. Here what will most likely happen and why :
- during the 3 weeks, you might see of your upload get rejected, fast or not : this is the action of queue mods cleaning the queue quickly from easy to spot items.
- then around the 3 weeks mark, you'll start seeing some accepted/rejected but not all : this is because the queue doesn't give pictures to mod in a perfect order but it will take the x oldest pictures, randomise their order and then serve them to mod. Why? It's made to avoid cases where someone would upload a batch of hundreds of pictures and then the only pics you'd see on the site for a while would only be their. With the little randomisation at the end, it still mix uploads up so that there is still variety uploaded on the site. So this will make it so that your 100 uploads will probably be moderated over a few days as they gradually appear into the current random mix.

As for favoritism, you may want to reread its definition. Favouring someone means giving them an advantage based on a partial reason. For example if mods were accepting stuff from their friends quicker.
Having a system that rewards users based on the quality of their upload isn't favoritism as it's impartial. There's a set rule and that's it. You may disagree with the rule itself, but that's not favoritism.
The same way you get credits for contributing to the site. You're not given credits because a staff likes you more than others (favoritism), you're given credits based on a set of rules (uploads, posts, votes etc.)

There was a time where there was no limit to uploads, no upload score and no priority. What happened was that some users with very poor uploads would spam the queue with shit stuff and slow queue time even more, giving mods unecessary work and lower quality galleries at times. That's why this sytem exists to reward quality uploads so that it's easier to currate it.

And just who decides on quality? Oh yeah, its the mods based on what they accept and reject from each user. So if a mod is friends with someone they can accept just about anything their friend uploads. Also if they don't like someone its very easy to use the terms "duplicate, bad quality, altered/photo shopped, or watermarked to reject their pics.

I have found this thread very helpful. I had no idea there was a point system with negative points for rejects by category. Also, I finally understand the upload history graphic.

I guess my problem is I don't automatically assume a photo is of a professional model just because she is beautiful and photographed well and that's cost me points. I do know the mod or algo judgement of altered or Photoshopped isn't always accurate as I've uploaded original content that hasn't been modified and yet rejected on those grounds.

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Originally posted by omuh

the queue doesn't give pictures to mod in a perfect order but it will take the x oldest pictures, randomise their order and then serve them to mod. Why? It's made to avoid cases where someone would upload a batch of hundreds of pictures and then the only pics you'd see on the site for a while would only be their. With the little randomisation at the end, it still mix uploads up so that there is still variety uploaded on the site. So this will make it so that your 100 uploads will probably be moderated over a few days as they gradually appear into the current random mix.

I now understand why uploads are not moderated in the exact order they are uploaded. It is to maintain variety of content for the betterment of the site.

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Originally posted by strictguy

And just who decides on quality? Oh yeah, its the mods based on what they accept and reject from each user. So if a mod is friends with someone they can accept just about anything their friend uploads. Also if they don't like someone its very easy to use the terms "duplicate, bad quality, altered/photo shopped, or watermarked to reject their pics.

Sometimes things just magically disappear out of the queue, so they have the ability to reject without saying anything if they want.

same at me ! upload one 2 weeks ago .wait wait wait .

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Originally posted by strictguy

And just who decides on quality? Oh yeah, its the mods based on what they accept and reject from each user. So if a mod is friends with someone they can accept just about anything their friend uploads. Also if they don't like someone its very easy to use the terms "duplicate, bad quality, altered/photo shopped, or watermarked to reject their pics.

By quality uploads, I mean uploads that respect the rules posted earlier in the thread by The Sentinel.
The system works the same for everybody. You too could have priority and bigger queue size if you upload stuff that respect the rules more often than not, anyone can.
Technically, yes someone could give a pass to a friend and that would be up to whoever is in charge of the crew to deal with this. I've been there in the past and never noticed anything of the sort. The only instance of proper favoritism I can remember is mods moderating their own uploads because the system could allow your own pics to come up in your mod queue (which was obviously a conflict of interest situation), and the stance was : no moderating your own uploads. So even in that case, there was no favoritism allowed.

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Originally posted by thegatsbe

Sometimes things just magically disappear out of the queue, so they have the ability to reject without saying anything if they want.

If the system hasn't changed, that shouldn't be possible. As far as I remember even queue mods give a reason when deleting stuff (I could be wrong though, it's been a while).

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Originally posted by thechoice

I have found this thread very helpful. I had no idea there was a point system with negative points for rejects by category. Also, I finally understand the upload history graphic.

I guess my problem is I don't automatically assume a photo is of a professional model just because she is beautiful and photographed well and that's cost me points. I do know the mod or algo judgement of altered or Photoshopped isn't always accurate as I've uploaded original content that hasn't been modified and yet rejected on those grounds.

Yeah, pro stuff is tough to figure out sometimes even for seasonned mods so you shouldn't feel bad if a few of your upload end up being pros. As long as it's not a majority, in which case you should just reconsider not uploading stuff from wherever you took those pics.
As for original content, if you're talking about pics that YOU took yourself (which is the only way to be 100% sure this is original), you can always PM a mod and explain the situation. As I said earlier, nobody's perfect and mistakes happen.

[reply=omuh]By quality uploads, I mean uploads that respect the rules posted earlier in the thread by The Sentinel.
The system works the same for everybody. You too could have priority and bigger queue size if you upload stuff that respect the rules more often than not, anyone can.

You can't seem to understand a single thing I've said! Listen closely. The very same pics that I upload and are rejected are later posted by others. Now just how the fuck does that relate to my pics not being "quality"? If its not quality for me, why is it quality for someone else? Same with underage pics that I had rejected and penalized for, the very same girl is uploaded by others, sometimes the same pics! How the hell are we supposed to respect the rules when certain other people don't seem to have to? That's why I don't upload anymore, its a waste of time as long as you have mods abusing the rules!

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Originally posted by strictguy

[reply=omuh]By quality uploads, I mean uploads that respect the rules posted earlier in the thread by The Sentinel.
The system works the same for everybody. You too could have priority and bigger queue size if you upload stuff that respect the rules more often than not, anyone can.

You can't seem to understand a single thing I've said! Listen closely. The very same pics that I upload and are rejected are later posted by others. Now just how the fuck does that relate to my pics not being "quality"? If its not quality for me, why is it quality for someone else? Same with underage pics that I had rejected and penalized for, the very same girl is uploaded by others, sometimes the same pics! How the hell are we supposed to respect the rules when certain other people don't seem to have to? That's why I don't upload anymore, its a waste of time as long as you have mods abusing the rules!

I understand perfectly and have already replied to that part in my first reply in this topic. But seems like you're more worried about keeping your complaining stance than actually understanding how things work (like others have done in this thread).

So I'll try one last time very simply :
If you upload a picture that is rejected for x reason and the same picture gets accepted later on, it means that the second mod that moderated the second picture didn't know that the picture broke said rule.
Don't take it personnally, nobody is after you. It's just part of the fact that mods are humans, and thus don't know all pro models in the world or don't have the exact same judgement on some criteria that are subjective (like "bad quality" or "underage" ). Reread my first reply if you want more details.
And you can always report the pics that went through if they shouldn't have.

I can even give you a simple example, in the reverse that what you claim is always happening to you.
This is one of your uploads that was accepted :
https://whatboyswant.com/babes/tight-asses/3069732?c=u-535425

Yet, this picture is both photoshopped (her ass has been morphed) and cropped and thus shouldn't have been accepted.
Here's the original : https://imgur.com/xqg4Jrm

I'm also fairly sure that it's a picture that I have rejected several times in the past years ago, for those reasons.
Does that mean you were favoured compared to the people who had it rejected? No, it's just that a mod didn't notice that is was shopped and cropped, because it's not super obvious, that's it (please mods don't delete the pic for the sake of demonstration ^^).

And I'm sure we can find many other examples of the sort, both in your uploads and others'. Again, there's no way to perfectly filter out all content in the world, there will always be mistakes, but at least WBW has a pretty well curated gallery as opposed to many site who claim to have amateur content and are just filled with pornstars and models.

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Originally posted by omuh

I understand perfectly and have already replied to that part in my first reply in this topic. But seems like you're more worried about keeping your complaining stance than actually understanding how things work (like others have done in this thread).

So I'll try one last time very simply :
If you upload a picture that is rejected for x reason and the same picture gets accepted later on, it means that the second mod that moderated the second picture didn't know that the picture broke said rule.
Don't take it personnally, nobody is after you. It's just part of the fact that mods are humans, and thus don't know all pro models in the world or don't have the exact same judgement on some criteria that are subjective (like "bad quality" or "underage" ). Reread my first reply if you want more details.
And you can always report the pics that went through if they shouldn't have.

You haven't replied to anything. I asked why we get penalized for a rejected pic and its later uploaded by someone else. If we complain, then were being pricks according to certain mods. And just like you they skirt the issue. So here's your chance to tell us how to keep from being penalized for pics that have been uploaded by someone else. And that pic you used for an example came off another site, was not altered in any way by me, and I don't claim it always happens to me, but it has in certain instances, so stop the accusations OK? I'm just sick and tired of the same song and dance from you mods every time these things are brought up, but we're fucked on our user scores with the penalty points for pics that get uploaded by others. How are we supposed to get those penalty points removed? You talk about quality, but how come a lot of pics are grainy and blurry and still being let through, or reposts of pics for the 3rd or 4th time? By the way, if you check back through this thread, I'm not the only one bringing up the same issues.

StrictGuy there is no reason to inflict more pain. we are here to have a nice time.

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Originally posted by strictguy

You haven't replied to anything. I asked why we get penalized for a rejected pic and its later uploaded by someone else. If we complain, then were being pricks according to certain mods. And just like you they skirt the issue. So here's your chance to tell us how to keep from being penalized for pics that have been uploaded by someone else. And that pic you used for an example came off another site, was not altered in any way by me, and I don't claim it always happens to me, but it has in certain instances, so stop the accusations OK? I'm just sick and tired of the same song and dance from you mods every time these things are brought up, but we're fucked on our user scores with the penalty points for pics that get uploaded by others. How are we supposed to get those penalty points removed? You talk about quality, but how come a lot of pics are grainy and blurry and still being let through, or reposts of pics for the 3rd or 4th time? By the way, if you check back through this thread, I'm not the only one bringing up the same issues.

As I have told you in the past, I am always open for a private conversation about issues you are having. I can understand that things can be frustrating, but here to help out mate. I want it so everybody can enjoy our site. Just hit me up in the DM's if you want to talk.

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Originally posted by strictguy

You haven't replied to anything. I asked why we get penalized for a rejected pic and its later uploaded by someone else. If we complain, then were being pricks according to certain mods. And just like you they skirt the issue. So here's your chance to tell us how to keep from being penalized for pics that have been uploaded by someone else. And that pic you used for an example came off another site, was not altered in any way by me, and I don't claim it always happens to me, but it has in certain instances, so stop the accusations OK? I'm just sick and tired of the same song and dance from you mods every time these things are brought up, but we're fucked on our user scores with the penalty points for pics that get uploaded by others. How are we supposed to get those penalty points removed? You talk about quality, but how come a lot of pics are grainy and blurry and still being let through, or reposts of pics for the 3rd or 4th time? By the way, if you check back through this thread, I'm not the only one bringing up the same issues.

Yeah, I'm sorry dude, at this point you're just running on a loop. There's enough in this thread to understand how things work and replying again would just be repeating what's already written here.
You're right, you're not the only one asking those questions here, or in the past, but you seem to be the only one who didn't understand what's been explained. Sorry about that but I'm out. I got no stake here, I'm not a mod, just wanted to help by giving insight on how the system works.

I'll go back to lurking and enjoying the content and tag stuff ^^

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Originally posted by omuh

Yeah, I'm sorry dude, at this point you're just running on a loop. There's enough in this thread to understand how things work and replying again would just be repeating what's already written here.
You're right, you're not the only one asking those questions here, or in the past, but you seem to be the only one who didn't understand what's been explained. Sorry about that but I'm out. I got no stake here, I'm not a mod, just wanted to help by giving insight on how the system works.

I'll go back to lurking and enjoying the content and tag stuff ^^

Good, stay out of it since you're not a mod and don't know what the issues are.