How are Celebrities / Models found?

(I am deliberately using a similar subject line to this post as my previous one (about duplicates) as both are concerned with the moderation process.)

If have uploaded several hundred images and it turns out that many of these are rejected on the ground of a ”Celebrity / Model” appearing in the images. This puzzles me as I am pretty sure that the girls are neither (at least I don’t think so).

Sometimes even, some pictures in a set are rejected for C/M while others are not, with the same girl in all pictures.

So, my question is – how do you determine that a girl is a Model or Celebrity? Some are of course obvious, like movie stars, fashion models, porn actresses etc, but others not so much?

I need some clearer guidelines, - I don’t think it is so fun to first select some images which fulfill the “purity code” :-) on this site, upload, and only two weeks later find them rejected because they apparently contain some celebrity or model.

How do you determine this? – I’d like to know so I don’t waste both your and my time.

This is not intended as an angry or offensive post – it is simply because I don’t understand the process and as I already wrote, I don’t want to waste time (and besides I am also ”punished” for these "C/M" uploads by having a lower cred and lower upload allowance).

I have several 100.000 images I’d like to share….

I include a couple of examples of rejected images below.

The rules are pretty clear about it, if a girl is a model, a pornstar, a celebrity or a camgirl, the picture will be rejected as C/M. Even if the picture isn't part of a website set (like a selfshot).
This is based on mods knowledge of said models, pornstars, websites etc. as well google reverse searches mainly. Some other hints can give indications, like the picture quality/set/lighting (or even pro props showing in the background).

Since mods are humans and have different knowledge, it is possible that some discrepancies appear (one pic a model wrongly accepted while it was rejected before for example), or some mistakes may happen too. If this is the case, you can report wrongly accepted pics or contact a mod if you know a picture being wrongly rejected (I insist on "know". That means, you took the picture yourself. If it comes from the internet, there is 90% the picture you think is amateur isn't. Believe my experience. For example, the first picture you posted here is a model from eastern europe professional websites).

We're not here to discuss specific pictures though. We can't afford doing that for everyone who would then come with "why is this one not accepted?". You have the reason already, should be enough for you to understand what the problem was with the picture.

OK, I won't argue either - I just find the rules a bit fuzzy (random) and it makes it hard to understand what can and what can't be accepted. For instance, according to what you write, if a picture looks to professional it probably is. That means that amateurs who use high end photo gear are not allowed?

I can understand that you want to avoid posting copyrighted commercial material and that is of course understandable.

Just today I got about ten images accepted, which are part of a series. Another two images from the very same series were rejected with the C/M tag, and earlier another two were rejected as duplicates (meaning that they exist somewhere between the 1.8 million images on the WBW website). That some pics from a series are allowed and others rejected from obviously the same series on the same day is what makes things difficult to understand.

I consider this end of discussion - I will just post and hope that some of the images get through the moderation. It your site and you decide - I will live with that.

PS: I would sure like to see more of model from the eastern european website you mention in your answer - not because I doubt what you say, but just because I think she's attractive and like to see more (you can PM me if you have time, would be appreciated)

just a small update - I can see on one of the mentioned rejected images that the male "actor's" face is blurred - so it should probably have been labeled as Altered/Photoshopped.

(here is another topic for discussion - should all alterations be disallowed - I understand removal of watermarks are disallowed, but other may not be a problem --- but don't worry I won't make a new discussion about this ;-) )

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Originally posted by star1962

OK, I won't argue either - I just find the rules a bit fuzzy (random) and it makes it hard to understand what can and what can't be accepted. For instance, according to what you write, if a picture looks to professional it probably is. That means that amateurs who use high end photo gear are not allowed?

The rules are pretty clear, if the girl on the picture is a professional model, pornstar, actress or camgirl, she will be rejected as a C/M.
Picture quality or lighting is just an indication but alone shouldn't be used to reject a picture. It's just a hint that help recognize some copyrighted sets. So an amateur with good quality photos, will pass (as long as it respects the other rules).

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Originally posted by star1962

Just today I got about ten images accepted, which are part of a series. Another two images from the very same series were rejected with the C/M tag, and earlier another two were rejected as duplicates (meaning that they exist somewhere between the 1.8 million images on the WBW website). That some pics from a series are allowed and others rejected from obviously the same series on the same day is what makes things difficult to understand.

Either a mistake for the few pics rejected or for the part that as been accepted. It happens because, as explained above, all mods don't have the same knowledge and do mistakes sometimes (missclicks can happen too btw).
That (and long moderation time) is the price to pay to have galleries that we can confidently call amateur, as opposed to many other so called amateur galleries on other websites where you have tons of models and reposts.

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Originally posted by star1962

PS: I would sure like to see more of model from the eastern european website you mention in your answer - not because I doubt what you say, but just because I think she's attractive and like to see more (you can PM me if you have time, would be appreciated)

Usually models from these website (nakedinrussia, flashing/upskirt websites etc.) aren't really known and it's hard to find their name (or you just get a random first name). There are a few models like that we "know" without knowing their name, otherwise these website use often the same setup and that's how I recognize them.
You could try reverse google search. If the pic isn't too old, you could find a batch of her sets.

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Originally posted by star1962

just a small update - I can see on one of the mentioned rejected images that the male "actor's" face is blurred - so it should probably have been labeled as Altered/Photoshopped.

(here is another topic for discussion - should all alterations be disallowed - I understand removal of watermarks are disallowed, but other may not be a problem --- but don't worry I won't make a new discussion about this ;-) )

All alterations are against the rules except for: cropping/blurring the face/eyes for privacy purpose.
Keep in mind though that if a picture is deleted as "altered" with someone's face cropped/blurred, it could be because the picture was also altered in another way (sideways, crop at the bottom/side, filter etc.)