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Was what I looked at legal?

Starter: Daryl3 Posted: 11 years ago Views: 3.2K
#4795026
Lvl 4
So I got talking to a random older guy in a chatroom a day ago who seemed cool and we got along well. We happened to get talking
about childhood experiences and embarrassing experiences. He happened to tell me about a time when he was 14 in the 1960s how he
was punished by his mother for a wrong doing and was made to stand naked in the corner for hours in front of his sisters who
taunted and laughed at him. I found the account strange but just left it alone. Later on in our convo he happened to send me a
link to something and I clicked on it not knowing what it was beforehand he just said "you'll find it amusing". On the link
was a page containing about 3 different stories of seemingly HIS humiliating sexual childhood experiences as a teen and I know
this as he told me about them earlier on in casual convo. The stories while not actually dealing with sex or physical sexual
activity, dealt with persons under 18 being stripped as punishment in front of members of the opposite sex and mentioned teens
as young as 14. Also on the page was digital images of these situations. An example of 1 pic was a boy about 14 years of age
made to stand on a chair holding his ears totally naked with a red blushing face and look of embarrassment while teen girls and
boys laughed at him and the mother stood nearby with her arms folded looking angry. In the story with the image it was apparently
something his mom did because he broke a house window deliberately with a football out of sheer mischief and tried to lie his way
out of it so he was stripped naked and made to stand still for a couple of hours as punishment. The image I might add had all the
"details" of his body, as in below his waist. He looked around 15 or so but did not look like a full blown child. Would this
type of image be illegal? I am in the UK by the way. It was a cartoon style image so it did not look real but it did have "details".

I know I was nieve for looking at this so please don't judge too much on this but is the fact I viewed this page with these
images and stories on it, illegal? if indeed these things are in fact illegal as I don't know. I heard as long as an image of
a person below 18 is "cartoon" and not realistic at all even if it contains nudity etc, then its safe. Its when images that
look real depicting persons under 18 and is sexual in nature is when its illegal. Is this correct? also can a story be deemed
"illegal" ? the ones on there talked about teens under 18 exposed naked and humiliated in front of other teens and their reactions
and exitement etc towards the exposed individual. While there was no mention of actual sexual activity like sex etc would it be
"illegal" ? what are the laws on these types of stories in the UK?
#4795198
Lvl 71
I guess you'd have better chance looking on the internet what's considered illegal or not concerning child pornography.
I really have no clue about the stories but for the pics, if they were drawn, they often need some kind of disclaimer stating that every character is 18+ (even though they might not look like so). So in this case, I don't know either
#4795295
Pretty sure that in Canada stories (providing that they're fiction) involving underage persons are not illegal. I believe the same goes for artwork.

I'm sorry, I don't know about the UK.
#4795373
Lvl 17
Stories not illegal in the US but actual photos would be.
#4795396
Lvl 23
In Canada you can get busted for possession,production or distribution of child porn. You cannot get busted if you write about it.
#4795399
Lvl 19
I heard a story about a guy who was arrested for having "funny" pics of the Simpsons kids on his computer. He brought it into a store to get it fixed and they called the cops. Now I don't know about the rest of the people around here, but I stay away from anything involving under age people
#4796299
Lvl 20
I can't speak about the UK, but I can share some information about the US, and they're probably pretty close in terms of this sort of thing.

Since it's part of a story, it's probably deemed "art" because of the literature and context. Further, since you didn't know what it was when you opened it, that's a pretty big chunk of any allegations someone might want to make. The reality is we all get spam whether we want it or not. Our friends email dumb shit whether we want them to or not. It's pretty unreasonable to hold one of us accountable for something someone else did.

Additionally, it's a cartoon. The law isn't intended to prevent expression of human desires. It's intended to prevent an actual child from being victimized. I realize that we feeble humans often have trouble distinguishing what's real from what's fiction, but Bart Simpson is in fact, not a real boy.

There have been cases where cartoons were used to make an argument in court, but I don't think they've ever been the actual evidence that someone got convicted on. In other words, a guy might be getting charged with saying dirty things to a young kid (a real one - with a pulse) and they introduce the cartoon pictures from his computer as evidence. That doesn't make the cartoons illegal though; they're simply used to inform the court about the defendant's behaviors and state of mind.

To add to my rambling, I have had to take two lie detector tests in the recent past (for occupational purposes). They ask some really invasive questions during those tests. In both cases I was asked if I had looked at any child pornography. As closely as I can recall, here is my answer to that question:

"Not willingly. I get spam, I have dumb friends, I surf the net. I'm a member of a porn board, and I can't swear on my life that every girl on that community is of age, but I do know they try to filter it out."

I passed both lie detectors.

So... I'm not an attorney, but those are my understandings based on what I've researched and experienced.
* This post has been modified : 11 years ago
#4796339
Lvl 71
Quote:
but Bart Simpson is in fact, not a real boy.

Really ?!

Ow
And I just bought some doughnuts for his dad...
#4810252
Lvl 5
the simpsons story is screwed up :/ but then again.. dont concern yourself too much. Theres a lot of illegal stupid shit. For example, your bf turned 18 yet youre one day away from 18.. in some parts its considered theoritecally illegal for underage sex. Yeahhh. right.. Also sexting in your teen years.
But then again.. dont be stupid and admit to anything until you're over 18.
AND DONT LET ANYONE.. share what you do. Thats how cops find it
but.. besides that.. yer good. I hope.
#4810258
Lvl 21
Bart Simpson is like 30 yrs old now