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sleep disorder, seisure, wtf??

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Every time I try to take a nap or go to bed, sometime before I actually fall asleep I get this strong electrical type shock over the top of my head (cranium) and it runs into my face. It makes my face spaz (contort) & body jerk & bounce. Been going on for a 1/2 a year now. Been to scared to see a doctor because of my age.... Anyway,I think It's a form of Epilepsy, called nocturnal seizure. What do you think? Yes i'm gonna see my Dr. soon.

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#4623047
Lvl 27
I have no idea..

But going to see the Dr doesn't sound like a bad idea...

But like a true man, good job putting it off
#4623048
Lvl 12
You could be seizing babe. Def see a Dr. not only that but your nerves from your head to your face (& pretty much through your body) can make you end up with Bells Palsy. Which will make one side of your face fall downward & possibly cause IV nerve palsy causing double vision
#4623049
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Originally posted by Americanbulldog

Anyway,I think It's a form of Epilepsy, called nocturnal seizure. What do you think? Yes i'm gonna see my Dr. soon.


Are you a hypochondriac?
Stop reading the internet doc sites.
Everyone twitches, wretches, jerks, recoils and thrashes in their sleep.
Disclaimer: I have no experience in medical conditions and anything I say can not be held against me.It's you're fault if you follow my advice and then die.
#4623050
Lvl 12
How long does your body jerk? Because when having a seizure your should turn to one side, so tell your wife to make sure she puts you that way. Also DO NOT PUT ANYTHING DOWN YOUR THROAT!
#4623051
Lvl 12
Yes everyone does jerk somehow when falling to sleep, but the electrical vibes in the head is what I'm looking at
#4623052
Lvl 71
If it's new and disturbs you, that definitely means something has changed. It doesn't have to be serious but you should clearly see your doc.

Nothing to loose except a bit of money
#4623053
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Originally posted by rower41

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Are you a hypochondriac?
Stop reading the internet doc sites.
Everyone twitches, wretches, jerks, recoils and thrashes in their sleep.
Disclaimer: I have no experience in medical conditions and anything I say can not be held against me.It's you're fault if you follow my advice and then die.


no no honest up.. its for real & ask anybody on here i dont post bullshit & deff not a hypocrite .. jeez
#4623054
yea its new.. 1/2 yr & today i had bad headache all day.. had a few big episodes last night....... Grrrrr
#4623055
Lvl 21
For years now, id say about 5-7 years, maybe longer. i don't remember exactly, i would get (for about a week outta every month) this intense anxiety feeling. every thing i ate anything it all taste the same, id get this strong feeling of deja vu, and then one night when i was 25 i had a grand mal seizure. the worst kind of em all. i went to the hospital. saw a neurologist was diagnosed with epilepsy started taking meds bla bla bla. oh and the anxiety deja vu feeling i was having i know now is a partial seizure. then it happen again to me about a year lata. (the grand mal seizure). i tried several different meds until i found one that worked. although im not completely outta the woods, it still happens from time to time, but it is a lot better. its certainly not the only reason people have seizures but, i was partying a lot then going to bars doing coke, shit like that, and thats a big reason i learned that i had seizures. i drink a lot less now, go out about one night a week and dont to any drugs anymore. but... anyway. Almost every time im falling asleep i get a "body jerk" my whole body sorta, jumps. the face/jaw jerk too. i told you about all that other stuff just to let y know maybe this is something you should go see a doctor about. better safe than sorry bro.
#4623056
Lvl 3
I have a feeling you are experiencing a case of (ADNFLE) or "Autosomal Dominant Nocturnal Frontal Lobe Epilepsy" on the higher end. Mine, unlike JSteel's have never gotten to full-on grand mal seizure. Every blue moon I know sometimes still do the "body jerk," sometimes doing a full uncontrollable jump in my bed while at other times a tiny foot or arm twitch will occur right before I fall into REM sleep because I subconsciously feel it happen. For a while these full and partial body jerks almost always happened to me right before I fall into REM sleep (but sometimes immediately after REM sleep) or while taking a nap; occurring for months on end while in my teens. I have noticed that as I age its frequency decreases and sometimes I go days without it happening. I, on the other hand, have never had the "deja-vu" feeling nor have ever been Rx medicated to deal with it over the years.

I have learned through my nursing courses that these full-body jerks and twitches are caused because of the brain and body's wiring in regards to the sending and receiving of signals being out-of-sync. The best way for me to explain it is:
Right before some of us fall into REM sleep our brains temporarily "shut down" for a split second. This becomes a problem because our body does not recognize this temporary shut down, thus this shut down of the brain creates a mental receptor (signal) "misfire" to the rest of the body telling the body NOT to move. The body instead interprets that signal as a signal FOR it to move, causing a clashing of information/signals and an involuntary movement with a part of or the rest of our body (body being out-of-sync with the mind/brain).

From what I understand not all epilepsy syndromes are lifelong. ADNFLE though, is common around early childhood-to-late teens and tends to decrease as the child ages with adult cases of ADNFLE now becoming more common and still not very frequent. Also medication to combat epilepsy can help but it cannot be fully cured.

In other cases, the brain does this temporary "shut down" at different and random times during the day/night due to external audible or visual influences. This would be an example of the case of (PSE) Photosensitive Epilepsy which is the reason for those stickers that read "Epilepsy Warning..." to be on certain video games and DVD movies. You would know you have PSE if you are most likely playing a certain video game or watching a certain DVD movie (versus a regular game or regular movie without the epilepsy warning sticker on it) due to certain symptoms. Symptoms would be the onset of sudden dizziness, hyperventilation, an odd feeling that results in a massive headache while sweating profusely, and sometimes a sudden feeling like you are going to vomit. Triggers of PSE to occur in an individual are choices of lighting (most likely fluorescent lighting), amount of video flash rate, choice of colors used in the video, visual patterns/movement of the video, and contrast of the video that is playing.
Example: The DVD movie Cloverfield! .... I saw the movie the whole way through but was sweating, had a massive near-migraine and was nearly hyperventilating... all while having to keep from vomiting.

I believe an extreme result of PSE on an ungodly scale would be kind of be like the introductory Blanka scene in the original Street Fighter movie with Jean Cleaude Van-Damme. This is were the Brazilian fighter Blanka gets forcefully put into a white chamber and is exposed to hundreds of videos and sounds all on multiple screens for a very lengthy period of time. He then is released from the chamber and comes out looking like an electrocuted psycho and green like the color of a nasal infection and suddenly turns out to be a sort of Manchurian Candidate... yeah, I'd say that would be the extreme result of PSE (and drugs) ..... because ..... drugs are ummm baaad . lol
Anyway, this is all I know about the subject but I hope this helps. I'd say depending on your age see if these fits decrease to where it may be manageable over time as you age but if not get medicated to cope with yours. Good luck and see doc soon!
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#4623057
Lvl 6
im 20 and ive recently in the past 6 months started noticing a jump/twitch before falling asleep. doesnt seem like a big problem though considering im in good health. does make me wonder if it will get worse though.


on a side note has anyone ever fallen asleep and then someone or something wakes you up and you can process all the sounds around you but your still sleeping and you cant make yourself stop sleeping. and your stuck in this state of sleep with an awake mind
#4623058
Lvl 10
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Originally posted by WhoIsTheDRIZZLE

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I am The Drizzle.
#4623059
JSteel & crabs - thanks for the input. I'll update this after I see my Dr.
#4623060
Lvl 18
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Originally posted by Americanbulldog

JSteel & crabs - thanks for the input. I'll update this after I see my Dr.


Yes please keep us informed as a practicing EMT I can always put stuff like this in "my tool box"...
#4623061
Lvl 16
forget my bullshit post earlier, i was in a strange mind.
go see a doc and please keep us updated !
#4623062
Lvl 71
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Originally posted by WhoIsTheDRIZZLE

on a side note has anyone ever fallen asleep and then someone or something wakes you up and you can process all the sounds around you but your still sleeping and you cant make yourself stop sleeping. and your stuck in this state of sleep with an awake mind


Yep, it's called sleep paralysis. You're waking up but your body is still paralysed (as it is while you sleep) so you can't do anything until your body "understand" you're actually awake and let you move
This or it's hypnopompic dream (like daydream but while you're about to wake up).

By the way, it's normal to have strange moves while falling asleep. When your body fall asleep all your muscles release so you may have sometime the feeling that you're falling so your body reacts by moving an arm, a leg or "jumping". Nothing to worry about if it's not painful of disturbs you by being more than just a twitch.
#4623063
Lvl 18
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Originally posted by Demodad68


But like a true man, good job putting it off


A good friend of mine, early 30's, put off a stomach cramp he would get daily. He put it down to him eating a lot of fruit etc. 18 months later he was doubled up in pain and couldn't move. Went to the E.R and they rushed him in for emergency surgery with suspected appendicitis, but it turned out to be a tumour located somewhere on his bowel. Apparently it was touch and go if he would be shitting into a bag for the rest of his life. They removed the tumour, benign, and a fair amount of intestine too.

Just shows, best not to put things off!
#4623064
Lvl 22
Go see the Doc as soon as you can Dawg. I just got out of the hospital because I got a fat lip on the 22nd and waited a day. It turns out I was allergic
to my new BP med. It made my heart swell and it almost killed me.
#4623065
Lvl 27
Damn Notech, glad you're ok, I mean after we made fun of you and all, I feel bad now
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