Skinheads/Nazis

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Originally posted by TickLes

I was a skinhead

So was i and i was never or ever will be a racist !!

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Originally posted by TickLes

I think you should state the difference between skinheads and nazis.

The nazis have taken on varying roles and appearances through the ages.

Skinheads are not nazis, they are not racists and they are not patriots either. However, some racists, nazis and patriots are skinheads.

this is true. There are 2 types of skinheads in the US they are racist and non racist. If you want to find out what the racist side thinks just go to google and look for Pastor Richard G. Butler and Tom Metzger from a group called W.A.R. Dont take me knowing these people the wrong way I used to work for a task force against hate crimes that is how I know them. Figured I would explain myself before someone got the wrong idea.

i thought i had to post this but real skinheads came from jamaica in the beginning and they listend to reggae and ska.

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Originally posted by spanky1

[reply=TickLes]
I think you should state the difference between skinheads and nazis.

The nazis have taken on varying roles and appearances through the ages.

Skinheads are not nazis, they are not racists and they are not patriots either. However, some racists, nazis and patriots are skinheads.

this is true. There are 2 types of skinheads in the US they are racist and non racist.
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I think that is the type of skinheads the wife was talking about, the racist ones. I dont know much of anything on this subject so I dont have anything to add to either side of it. Just thought I would clear that little bit up.

hey you all are getting way too deep and way to sensative....dont let the skinheads thinking affect you, dont try to get in thier heads, or reason with them or care what they think. Hitler was a mad man.................he had an idea in his mind that he tried to force upon others.....but he did not act alone he had other nazi ali's....... mussolini......and the catholic church........those two happened to be in the same country of Italy.........where did you think all the other nazis and the treasures and old world arts disappearred behind the doors of the Vatican and distributed to other countries. Back to Germany yeah Hitler is not a real nice thing to be associated with so disassociate be proud of your indutrial your technological your wonderful beers...your very hot german girls and I could go on but it aint my place to tell you ............. But Adolf..... although it was at the cost and suffering of many innocent souls did get medical science out of stagnent sess pool it was in pryor to the attrocities.................. Another point I would like to make is that while 6 million Jewish families were exterminated.........they were not the only casualties of the european theatre and if some one out there can correct me on this there were some 45 million that died on the eastern front Japanese civillians were baked alive by us good ole americans first with napalm then with the A bomb but then what had the Japanese done in Manchuria......and Korea...............systematically slaughtered
10's of millions of human lives...........my point is I come here to look at the hot babes and be entertained not to listen to insecurity issues which maybe in of or out of body expierience for whom ever gee thanks for letting me stop you from the i am afraid I am going to crap my bead contest Paul

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Originally posted by ziip

thats just because nazis are stupid! i never understood why a non-german could admire hitler as hitler probably would have killed him if he could. but he seems to be a shiny person. as i said... only stupid people can think that hitler was cool. i'm often quite ashamed for being a german and for living in a country that let things like that happen.

be ashamed?our generation has nothing to do with hitler and sh** like that.. so i don't feel ashamed for germany now.. our grandparents could have been ashamed, thats right.
but, i also cannot understand why nazis exist even today in every country

The problem with most of those people who join a Nazi, Neo-Nazi or skinhead "club" is that they have absolutely know idear of the history of those movements and what they claim to be a part of.
Most of them are unintelligent scared little kids who have no where else to turn. They do it to be a part of something else and feal like a part of something.
I don't think that you would get much out of talking to some "average" skinhead, because they don't really know what they are doing or what they are a part of or have any idear what they represent!
That is also why so many of them have tons of dobblet standards. They just don't know any better.

They are all mainly uneducated nieve morons who are short sighted. Anyone who thinks the BNP is the way forward must be fuckin stupid.



Also American History X is a good film to watch about Neo-Nazism

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Originally posted by 86lobo77

They are all mainly uneducated nieve morons who are short sighted. Anyone who thinks the BNP is the way forward must be fuckin stupid.



Also American History X is a good film to watch about Neo-Nazism

Thats true, much like all the stupid gangs American kids get into today (not sure if these are all over the world). ie: Crips, Folk, Blood, it's all just stupid bullshit.

I posted this elsewhere in response but figured I'd hit here too.

Couple of things.

You are pissing into the wind. Using a logic based on compassion for humanity against a logic based on a pseudo-scientific fallacy will just create an irreconcilable grudge match that will not be satisfying.

You probably won't get an answer anyway. And if you do, it will be almost non-sense.

Here is the answer. "Skinheads" who fully believe in the Aryan Race as masters believe that those with mental and physical disabilities are holding down the Aryan Race and as such should not be allowed to continue wasting resources required by the Master Race. In many ways, they see the euthanasia of those with disabilities much the same as we would see turning in a family member who is wanted by the law, a necessary evil. They love that person no less, but it is their duty to protect the Master Race against genetic imperfections. It is an agenda that is tough to buy into, but once you do the logic is immaculate and undeniable.

For the record, I am not nor would I ever consider being a "skinhead". But I learn enough about the subjects I discuss to argue both sides. That is the only way to truly understand anything. If we only study the side we ourselves believe in, then we will be ill equipped to argue for our preferred position.

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Originally posted by CrimsonBaby04

[reply=Z-BO]
Some punks called me a skinhead when I was like 5, I told a copper and he harassed the hell out of them......thats all I know.

I am so sorry that was done to you
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It was more funny to me at the time, I was at the mall in a bathroom. When they came out and a cop went up to them and started fuckin with them they freaked out...priceless.

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Originally posted by TheKaiser

[reply=ziip]
thats just because nazis are stupid! i never understood why a non-german could admire hitler as hitler probably would have killed him if he could. but he seems to be a shiny person. as i said... only stupid people can think that hitler was cool. i'm often quite ashamed for being a german and for living in a country that let things like that happen.

be ashamed?our generation has nothing to do with hitler and sh** like that.. so i don't feel ashamed for germany now.. our grandparents could have been ashamed, thats right.
but, i also cannot understand why nazis exist even today in every country
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that is more then true. be aware but dont be ashammed. we are the generation that change the face of germany and we have done with the WC 2006!

and this is what i posted across the street:

Here are the wiki links for each group:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinhead
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazi

You will see that Skinheads are not necesseraily Nazi's or Neo-Nazi's.
It's true that Nazi's and Neo-Nazi's see people with disabillities as virus that infects the Aryan race and genetics and so need to be killed. The ideology behind this goes a bit further. Hitler did want to see the Aryan race rule the world. Therefor he needed healthy aryan women and aryan men to raise more kids. In his believing a person that didnt have any disabilities in their family tree must be healthy. One that had a handicaped grandpa i.e. could never be aryan.
He then wanted this race to grow and spreed across the world. Therefor he needed places for them to live. That was one of the major reasons to start the war. In conclusion everyone who lived there had to be killed to get space for the aryans that can settle there then.

Now for your question:
A Nazi would answer like this: "I dont know any people with disabilities and even if one of my family members is handycaped, i wouldnt talk to him anymore. They are people of a lower race and need to be killed so the aryan race has more space to live."
They also never saw Hitler as a person that is alike god. They just saw them as their leader in political questions.
I hope that covers your question. If not, i am always willing to discuss this topic from both points of view as i have gotten to know quite a few of these idiots. I also dont have a problem talking about this dark chapter of my nations history.

There are some guys in our school, who acts a bit like Nazis. They dont attack black people or foreigner, but they say some nasty things about them. I know them pretty good and they are just ridiculous, because you can't take them seriously. So it's not a big deal, they only want to feel big.

And once I signed up at a site where I later recognised, that it is a site of people which are Nazis. So I deleted my account instantly.

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Originally posted by TickLes

I was a skinhead

me too a ska skin, rudeboy

but if you want to know where the ignorants surf .....

www.stormfront.org

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Originally posted by creepus

[reply=TickLes]
I was a skinhead

me too a ska skin, rudeboy

but if you want to know where the ignorants surf .....

www.stormfront.org
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I believe that is one of the sites we found while trying to get the information she was wanting. That site is full of ignorant people.

I am ashamed of what my country (Italy) is NOW, at least your shitty past is in the past...

Sirio

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Originally posted by ziip

thats just because nazis are stupid! i never understood why a non-german could admire hitler as hitler probably would have killed him if he could. but he seems to be a shiny person. as i said... only stupid people can think that hitler was cool. i'm often quite ashamed for being a german and for living in a country that let things like that happen.

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Originally posted by CrimsonBaby04

[reply=Latino]
it might be easier to help and know if this thread will become political or not if you gave more information...

I was so hoping you would get online and I am so glad you did. Here is what I posted across the street maybe it will help.

Ok as many of you know my son has several disabilities. Well these skinheads love Hitler and pretty much think he is a God right. Well I am pretty sure some of these skinheads have family members who have disabilities and yet back in Hitlers time if a child was born with a disability aweful things happened to them. So therefore if they think Hitler is so awesome how can they love their loved ones with disabilities and love Hitler at the same time. If you get what I am saying.
[/reply]sorry morons wont listen to you no matter what.
plus hittler wanted evry non "pure" white to be dead, not only handycap people, read some history books
and see that he was going to doble cross the non "pure" people that servd him and kill them to. he and the nazi party wanted the following races to be elimentd: latins,russians,chezks,and a lot more so, dont try to make sense of insane people.

lets leave this at that.

and the most bizarre thing is that there are quite a few neo nazis in the u.s and euorpe, and they dont care about history they idollize the nazi party and hittler becuse they like the "fuck everyone were the supreme race and anyone else is lower then us "pure"

if those morons knew the past then they would know that theyre "stars" will kill them to, after using them.

It's good when people have a way of life as nazis,skinheads,metal fans,punks...What do you want?Everywhere people who like robots in an capitalism world? No thanks!

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Originally posted by zirrio

I am ashamed of what my country (Italy) is NOW, at least your shitty past is in the past...

Sirio
[reply=ziip]
thats just because nazis are stupid! i never understood why a non-german could admire hitler as hitler probably would have killed him if he could. but he seems to be a shiny person. as i said... only stupid people can think that hitler was cool. i'm often quite ashamed for being a german and for living in a country that let things like that happen.

[/reply]sirio you cant foreget the past becuse history repat itself, and you nead to learn from the past in order to make the futhere a better place

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Originally posted by witchunter88

It's good when people have a way of life as nazis,skinheads,metal fans,punks...What do you want?Everywhere people who like robots in an capitalism world? No thanks!

how can you compare punks and metal fans to nazis?!
these guys just like music and being a bit reblious, not killing anyone that is diffrent then them