Family Disappeared a Year ago Yesterday

Very disturbing. The left their pets. $100,000 in the bank. New home they just bought. Husband had a close family. Police say they are stumped but the search goes on. No evidence of foul play. Husband, wife and 2 small children. The family set up this site to help find them. McStay family for googling:

http://www.mcstayfamily.com/

Lets here your theories of what happened to them? I have gone in circles trying to figure it out

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/02/25/california.missing.family/index.html?hpt=T2

Sometimes shitty things happen in life. It seems this is one of them.


Someone's gotta be the unlucky one who gets struck by lightning.

How about assuming for a change that they ay not want to be found.

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Originally posted by nightowl613

How about assuming for a change that they ay not want to be found.

Maybe, but people don't usually just abandon their dogs and leave perishable food out, and not take lots of personal belongings before they leave. Those are the signs that people left in a hurry, without much preparation or thought behind it. Not typically a good sign.

Exactly Eric! The wife had also bought some large toys the day they went missing. Those were left in the Izuzu trooper parked a few blocks from the Mexican border. Why go buy expensive toys if you are planning on leaving? The neighbors started feeding the animals and called Animal control. Looks like from the videos that they loved those dogs.
A business partner said he received a call from the husbands cell phone the last night(around 8:47 pm) they were heard from. Just had it on his answering machine. Sounded like a crowded restaurant in the back ground. No one said anything.
Police have video of what looks like them crossing the border. From behind angle. Wife had said she thought Mexico was too dangerous, but here they are walking across the border at night with their kids in tow? No passports(That police know of) to get back into the country? The vehicle was "Clean" according to police. Was it detailed with no prints at all? Baby seats were still in place. No room, with the toys, for anyone but 2 adults and kids.
There is a 4 day time frame between the vehicle being found and the day they went missing. 4 days of no cell phone use. No credit card use. The phones just went dead within 4 hours of each other.
If there was a crime then somebody sure went to a lot of trouble to show there was no crime. Police can't use all the investigative tools at their disposal because there is no evidence of a crime. There is plenty of evidence they didn't plan to leave that day. They scheduled a painter to finish his work a few days later. Buying the toys. Leaving eggs out. 2 bowls of popcorn were left on the sofa. Left their clothes. Left $100, 000 in the bank. Left their pets to starve.
Law enforcement said they were not in the witness protection program. I read where LE will contact the family and let them know if a family member is in the Wpp. So why continue the hunt if the family knows their in the Wpp? The family says they haven't been contacted.
Maybe that was them crossing the border and something bad happened to them there. There is a You tube video of it. Some say it looks like the wife but not the husband. So on the spur of the moment they cross the border(which is 60 to 70 miles from where they live) with their kids in tow. They don't use their credit cards in Mexico--from the info I have read. Or their phones. Why not just drive across the border? Why not call somebody and tell them to feed the dogs?

The 4400 in real life?

Kidnappers showed up at the house and stuck a gun to their heads. They all got in the SUV, still with a gun to the fathers head and drove south. They then exit the SUV (this is where the vehicle was found). Probably separated the kids from parents at this point, and headed into Mexico. Those cameras don't catch everything that happens on the border, which is why DHS just scrapped the whole "virtual fence" plan. I don't even want to think about what may have happened, or is happening still, after this point. Also, Kidnappers could have parked the SUV there just to make people think they went into Mexico. They could have gone anywhere.

I know there is no evidence of a struggle in the house or SUV, but they could have been some experienced kidnappers. They go in at night, kids are probably asleep. Parents watching a loud movie maybe (they found popcorn bowls)?

Creepy story.

Here is a recent interview with the lead Detective on the case. Link to MSNBC:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41448084/ns/us_news-life/

I think when they left their home there was 4 days unaccounted for between the time they found the Isuzu near the border

Maybe they just went on an extended camping trip?

What we need here...

The wife has changed her name a bunch of times? That just seems a bit odd, like she's hiding something in her past. But the brother swears they both were on the straight and narrow.

Also, I read in one story that the brother doesn't think it was them in the video crossing the border, he said maybe it was the kids.

Who knows, I'm still going with my above scenario

I watched the video of them going to their new home. You can find their home videos on You Tube. I don't know why they would put their personal life on video for all to see. Like where they live. Videos of the kids. Inside views of their home. One video maps out the way to their home. I guess this is the thing to do these days but it seems a bit risky with all the whackos out there. Clue one
Anyway here is this woman who not too long ago bore Children. On the ride to see the new home she says "Please don't make me have to do this". She says the area and home are "Ugly". She seems very unhappy with the move. All he can talk about is how beautiful the area is and the home is. His family said she adjusted. Did she?
Clue 2
Some family members say it looks like her but not him walking across the Mexican border. Another clue. The police seem positive it is him and her.
Anyway, this is the video of their ride to the new home:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f99N9GtQ9wA

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Originally posted by hornithologist

Kidnappers showed up at the house and stuck a gun to their heads. They all got in the SUV, still with a gun to the fathers head and drove south. They then exit the SUV (this is where the vehicle was found). Probably separated the kids from parents at this point, and headed into Mexico. Those cameras don't catch everything that happens on the border, which is why DHS just scrapped the whole "virtual fence" plan. I don't even want to think about what may have happened, or is happening still, after this point. Also, Kidnappers could have parked the SUV there just to make people think they went into Mexico. They could have gone anywhere.

I know there is no evidence of a struggle in the house or SUV, but they could have been some experienced kidnappers. They go in at night, kids are probably asleep. Parents watching a loud movie maybe (they found popcorn bowls)?

Creepy story.

Possible but, police are letting a little more info out. Turns out the night of the disappearance the father called(8:47 pm) a business associate. I thought he said nothing but it turns out the 2 talked. He the Business associate said the Father talked professionally and calmly about business. He thought he could here restaurant noise in the background. This cell phone pinged in the Fallbrook CA area. This was after they left they left the home. The neighbors Video camera caught the back end their suv leaving their drive(Never know when a camera is on you these days haha) That was the last time(that we know of) they were heard from. Then 4 days past between the time their auto was found in a 2 hour parking limit space 2 blocks from the border. I guess no prints were found besides the owners because the police are adamant that they left on their own accord. No knows passports. Left $100,000 in the bank etc. No kidnapper ransom calls.

Can't believe someone could be so nieve. He's gone and posted a video of street by street directions all the way to his house for the whole world to see with his family in it, the whole layout of his house, information about where he works, the dogs, even the lime trees near his back fence. You can leave the rest to your imagination, anything could have happened but my guess is a well planned and executed kidnapping of some sort, using them as mules to get something across the border followed by an acid bath or dinner for the pigs

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Originally posted by Daycruiser

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Possible but, police are letting a little more info out. Turns out the night of the disappearance the father called(8:47 pm) a business associate. I thought he said nothing but it turns out the 2 talked. He the Business associate said the Father talked professionally and calmly about business. He thought he could here restaurant noise in the background. This cell phone pinged in the Fallbrook CA area. This was after they left they left the home. The neighbors Video camera caught the back end their suv leaving their drive(Never know when a camera is on you these days haha) That was the last time(that we know of) they were heard from. Then 4 days past between the time their auto was found in a 2 hour parking limit space 2 blocks from the border. I guess no prints were found besides the owners because the police are adamant that they left on their own accord. No knows passports. Left $100,000 in the bank etc. No kidnapper ransom calls.

If there was 4 days unaccounted for (the 4th, when he spoke to his associate, until the 8th when they found and towed the car), then the family easily could have went back home after being at the restaurant. Then the kidnappers came that same night I'm guessing. They wore gloves, were experienced, and also got really lucky that everything went according to their plan, so that no evidence was left. Kidnappers weren't after money, just the kids.

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Originally posted by 2stroke

Can't believe someone could be so nieve. He's gone and posted a video of street by street directions all the way to his house for the whole world to see with his family in it, the whole layout of his house, information about where he works, the dogs, even the lime trees near his back fence. You can leave the rest to your imagination, anything could have happened but my guess is a well planned and executed kidnapping of some sort, using them as mules to get something across the border followed by an acid bath or dinner for the pigs

Yeah, I read about that in one of the articles. The brother of Joseph McStay, thinks that is a possibility in one of the interviews. That someone saw the kids on Youtube and wanted them.

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Originally posted by NorthCountyTimes

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Michael McStay noted that his brother had posted on YouTube a home video of his young sons dancing on a clip titled "Boyz Dancing." Also on the same site, Joseph McStay had posted a different video recorded as the family drove east on Highway 76 and up to the Fallbrook house ---- where the address is clearly visible.

"The videos direct people to the house," Michael McStay said. He later added, "There is a possibility that my nephews are being trafficked. Yes, it is a possibility."

http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/fallbrook/article_edeea84e-70c8-5767-8bd0-6df3ac23cd34.html

This is likely a religious cult thing. They are living the life on a commune right now. Giving up material possessions sounds like a religious focus. If they left because someone forced them, there would be other motives apparent. For a woman to give up her material things and jump border sounds like she is on a religious pilramige of some kind. Maybe to go to a specific place or whatever. Remember that group in CA that dressed and acted the same. They all killed themselves trying to get into god's spaceship or whatever.
The only other thought option is much more far fetched, but statistically not impossible. They were alien-clone jobs. The real family was dead along time ago, and these people crossing the border are clones or skin-jobs. Going down to mexico to hook up with the others. Do you know how many UFO sightings happen down there? A very long history of it too, well before the spanish wiped out the culture.

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Originally posted by Glass_Dragon

This is likely a religious cult thing. They are living the life on a commune right now. Giving up material possessions sounds like a religious focus. If they left because someone forced them, there would be other motives apparent.

Other apparent motives if someone forced them? Do you mean evidence instead of motives perhaps?

There are plenty of motives for sick bastards to take someone's kids.

Was there any reports of strange lights in the night sky.