Children with transgender issues

I posted an article I got off WBW member F1098 regarding a seven year old boy with 'transgender issues', here trying to apply for girl scouts and it got me thinking...

Should children with these issues be allowed to live as their chosen sexuality at this age? Or should they wait until they are older and more mature to make that decision for themselves?

Surely letting a seven year old dress as a girl is sending mixed messages. It isn't the norm, but it's ok? Is that the right message?

Flipping it, maybe once he reaches puberty and the testosterone kicks in he might change his mind, and realise he's been living as a girl all these years....

I'm not sure I'd let my child, who is six, dress, and by the looks of it, encourage, them to live as the opposite gender.

What do you lot think?

no. at six years old, i won't let my son wear girl clothes if he wanted. if he wanted to grow up and do his thing, so be it.

but not while he's living under my roof and i'm buying his clothes.

playing with dolls is a different story. he could play with all the dolls he wanted. i don't care. but no. my money isn't going to girl clothes for my son.

My reasoning is hard to follow, but I'm having a hard time eloquently stating my feelings on the issue.

I'm very open regarding the GLBTQ community and fully support equal treatment, etc., etc. However, I just don't understand the whole "I feel like a woman trapped in a man's body" or vice versa thing. I just can't wrap my mind around it. If a guy was supposed to be a woman, he would have been a woman, and vice versa. It gets to biology, which I think is entirely separate from sexuality. It doesn't matter if you're a straight man, gay man, bisexual man, straight woman, gay woman, bisexual woman- that's just who you are.

If that was my kid, no. I would not raise him as a girl. Frankly, I would probably have the kid go see some type of mental health specialist. Not because I think he's crazy or anything like that, but I definitely think it could help sort out some confusion that's going on. I have quite a few gay friends and many of them relate much more to the opposite gender. And I have to think that's what's going on with a seven year old, but the kid just isn't as developed mentally or emotionally yet to fully grasp everything.

I view it like this: Gay men are still male by sex. But some/many gay men would identify their gender as female, since gender is a social construct. But it doesn't change that they're still males. And I don't think that there's anything wrong with associating more closely with females if you're a male, or associating more closely with males if you're a female. Just because you associate more closely with one gender as opposed to the other does not mean that your sex should be changed or that the world should treat you as though you are actually that sex.

I guess it comes down to another question- should people be treated according to their sex or according to their gender? And I come down solidly on the side of according to sex.

And if the kid grows up and still wants to be transgendered- fine. If they're old enough to support themselves, they can do what they want.

What we have here is a subject that has now been allowed out of the closet along with gay children,bulling, self harm, writing using the left hand, anti-social behaviour, not speaking in English and going to the wrong church etc. All this has been around for a long time and has been dealt with in many ways. I remember going to a workshop conference in Nottingham University 25 years ago ( I worked with young children /adults ) and what came out from the studies done was very simple. You cannot force young minds to your will you can only guide them to make up their own minds. The more you force and suppress the more trouble you store up for yourself,the child and society in general. Ramsann stop worrying Queen Victoria dressed her boys in girls cloths (as was the norm then) and the all turned out to be randy sods like their father.

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Originally posted by spaboy

Ramsann stop worrying Queen Victoria dressed her boys in girls cloths (as was the norm then) and the all turned out to be randy sods like their father.

I don't know what a randy sod is....

But also, if it was the norm to dress boys in girls clothes (which isn't the norm today), that would make the situation quite a bit different, IMO.

Most issues I have some sort of stand on, this particular one I really do not...

Aside from the fact that a "boy" regardless of how he feels should not be allowed in the Girl Scouts, boys should be in the boy scouts, and girls in the girl scouts, after all it is not the "I'm a boy but I feel like a girl scouts" or vice verse...

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Originally posted by Elmer280

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I don't know what a randy sod is....

But also, if it was the norm to dress boys in girls clothes (which isn't the norm today), that would make the situation quite a bit different, IMO.

Randy sod in American terms = Horn Dog !

im not worrying because i wont let it happen. simple as that

Boys don't belong in girl scouts gay or not. How does a seven year old even know about transgender. I had a friend who had a younger brother we always knew he was gay, but he he went to the boy scouts because that's were he belonged. If anything he should join boy scouts just so he can learn what it means to be a boy before he can decide he's actually a girl in a boys body. After all he might just be gay.

If he's got a dick then he's a boy and should be treated like one until he's old enough to make his own decisions.

Children are too young to make decisons about their sexuality. Even most teenagers lack that ability. Their frontal lobe is not full developed yet so for the most part they are driven by hormones not gray matter.

All i cared about when i was 7 was ponies and playing house... I dont think i cared about boys until i was 12 or 13... and didnt consider being sexually attracted to girls until my mid 20's.

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Originally posted by cog

If he's got a dick then he's a boy and should be treated like one until he's old enough to make his own decisions.

yep...that pretty much says it right there.

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Originally posted by Paddy!

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Randy sod in American terms = Horn Dog !

The first time I read that I had to think of Austin Powers when they speak "British" English around the Americans so no one else will know WTF they're talking about. Good stuff.

Kids like this don't have transgender issues...they have parenting issues.

My question is, wtf is a 7yo thinking about shit like that for anyway? I remember being 7. The big question of the day was Grape or Strawberry jelly. Not O I have a transgender issue, wtf!!! I agree with NRL, it's a parenting issue.