Revamping Upload Rules: Seeking Your Input on Updated Guidelines

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Originally posted by hiproof

Underage is simple. If she looks like she might be underage, don't allow it.

There are limitless pictures of women who are unquestionably 18+, so why chance aiding and abetting child porn?

Looks underage to whom ? The older you get the younger girls/women look. A 60 yr old will think a 25 yr old girl looks 'underage'

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Originally posted by AJ100

Looks underage to whom ? The older you get the younger girls/women look. A 60 yr old will think a 25 yr old girl looks 'underage'

True, and this is where an issue can arise with those that upload. I could reject an image for being underage (in my opinion), and another moderator sees the same upload a week later and accepts it because they think she looks old enough. Then the original uploader whose image was rejected gets all shitty because they then see the exact same image accepted onto the site a week later.

I don't really see a solution to this particular issue, but an explanation on the upload screen so that members can understand how things work could certainly help.

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Originally posted by Diz-X

I'm in the process of revising the upload rules, and I'm currently focusing on refining the following guidelines. What are your thoughts on these and did I forget anything I should focus on?

× Only women centric content

What's the general consensus on close-up images of a woman's face with a cock alongside it? So no other part of the woman on show, just a face and a cock.

For me, I tend to think they should be rejected. If more of the woman is on show then fair enough, but I would normally reject face-only images anyway (without cock) so the additional penis doesn't change things. I do see plenty of these image accepted by other moderators though, so there's no clear guideline on this as far as I know.

I have a couple of images rejected just recently for being "underage". My issue is that I can point you to her Facebook or Insta profile, which proves she is not underage. So, let's have a published list of ALL the moderators and the moderator who rejects a picture has their name allocated to the refusal. That way the moderator can be "challenged", given the evidence and invited to reverse the decision. That to me is only fair and equitable and holds the moderator to account because at the moment no-one effectively moderates the moderator's decisions.

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Originally posted by darkstar001

I have a couple of images rejected just recently for being "underage". My issue is that I can point you to her Facebook or Insta profile, which proves she is not underage. So, let's have a published list of ALL the moderators and the moderator who rejects a picture has their name allocated to the refusal. That way the moderator can be "challenged", given the evidence and invited to reverse the decision. That to me is only fair and equitable and holds the moderator to account because at the moment no-one effectively moderates the moderator's decisions.

I’ve always said I’m happy for members to send me a message with any decision they are not happy with, and I’d look into it. I don’t think any moderator would be against reversing a decision if there was actual proof, it’s just best to err on the side of caution if you’re not sure (when moderating an image).

While I appreciate the idea, I’m not sure naming the moderator that rejects each image is a good move because it just opens them up to receiving unnecessary abuse. I think a clearer reporting function for this could be a good idea though.

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Originally posted by darkstar001

I have a couple of images rejected just recently for being "underage". My issue is that I can point you to her Facebook or Insta profile, which proves she is not underage. So, let's have a published list of ALL the moderators and the moderator who rejects a picture has their name allocated to the refusal. That way the moderator can be "challenged", given the evidence and invited to reverse the decision. That to me is only fair and equitable and holds the moderator to account because at the moment no-one effectively moderates the moderator's decisions.

You don't need to be 18+ to post on facebook or Instagram. So unless you have the person's ID, there's no serious proof that someone is 18+ there, unless you can see them on those account doing something that can only be done by an adult but that would be rare.

I dont know why we have rules pertaining to models and fakes. I've had numerous pictures of someone who is most certainly not a a model or fake, rejected for those reasons, and then turn around and see Emma Kotos or clear fakes posted. My issue is some of your mods have a clue and other clearly don't know what they're doing, so just open it up. Not sure why those are an issue to begin with.

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Originally posted by Wonderstruck

I dont know why we have rules pertaining to models and fakes. I've had numerous pictures of someone who is most certainly not a a model or fake, rejected for those reasons, and then turn around and see Emma Kotos or clear fakes posted. My issue is some of your mods have a clue and other clearly don't know what they're doing, so just open it up. Not sure why those are an issue to begin with.

The "altered" reason isn't only for fakes. Cropped pictures also fall in this category, and this is one of the main reasons pics get rejected (as you may know, pics go around the internet a lot and people tend to crop them differently, to remove watermarks or reframe them, those aren't accepted). In your case, your last "altered" rejected pics were rejected for that reason. Some of them even have a black/white line on them showing they have been cropped.
For pros, the last series that was rejected is an onlyfans model. Seems correct to me.

As for why some pics can still get through despite also being pro / fake / whatever, this has been discussed many times, including in this thread. Refer to one of my replies in page 1.

Well, it looks to me that omuh is a moderator. So to me, the question is should we take lessons from someone who has been on the site since 27th April 2010 but has only uploaded 46 images and the last of these was 7 years ago? Plus your average scoring of girls is only 5.62 so I would view you as one of the site's serial low scorers. The site is over-moderated. Pics are sometimes rejected immediately after they are uploaded. Then rejected again when a moderator decides that they are a model/celebrity/underage/other etc and then they can be removed after they've been approved. I never knew that there were so many models and celebrities in the world. To address your point about underage material. I am one of the site's more discerning posters. I won't post if I think that the girl is underage. Those that have been rejected as underage aren't. I have checked their profiles and ascertained that they are over 18 years of age. For example: one of them works in a bar in Newcastle and there are photos of her there.

Here is the first draft of the new upload rules. Please let me know what I am missing or needs tweaking:



Only women-centric content is allowed

The content should focus on and revolve around individuals who are biologically female. Transgender content is not permitted.

All subjects must 18+ years

All individuals featured in uploaded content must be a minimum of 18 years old, including those appearing in the background or any images within the background.

Copyrighted or Celebrity content is not allowed

Ensure that you have the right to upload the content. Respect copyright laws and refrain from uploading material that infringes on the intellectual property rights of others.

Refrain from uploading content featuring celebrities or professional models. Photography sessions with amateur models are permitted.

Watermarked content is not allowed

Content must be free of watermarks, logos, stamped text, or promotions, with the exception of timestamps.

Fake / AI / Altered content is not allowed

Examples of fake content include manipulations of the human body, such as alterations or modifications through photo editing software.

AI-generated content refers to digital material, like images, or videos, produced with the assistance of artificial intelligence technologies.

Altered content includes actions such as taking a screenshot or screen recording, as well as cropping the content to eliminate a watermark, for instance.

The exception to these rules is that you are allowed to blur/hide faces to make them unrecognisable.

Gross / Gore / Joke content is not allowed.

Gross and Gore Content includes material featuring scat, feces, vomit, menstrual blood, urination, and/or blood.

why is it that pictures that were deleted can still be uploaded and are not immediately recognized/rejected , this works for pictures that are compared to the existing ones ?
I suppose in such cases a copy of it is present on the server because it does appear in the queue log and the live log.
The site should be able to reject them as duplicates from the start and it would avoid some frustation.

Sentinel: While I appreciate the idea, I’m not sure naming the moderator that rejects each image is a good move because it just opens them up to receiving unnecessary abuse. I think a clearer reporting function for this could be a good idea though.[/reply]

I'm sure you don't want your name listed beside rejected or approved pics. It would show the members how little moderating you do since you spend all your time posting to your many forum threads. The wait wouldn't be so long if you put as much energy into moderating other members pics as you do patting yourself on the back and adding to your uploads. Just a suggestion that might bring the wait time down for those who still upload to this site.

Can’t please everyone. Two posts so close together and one member complains that Omuh doesn’t post enough while another complains that The_Sentinel posts too much.

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Originally posted by dariusslay

Can’t please everyone. Two posts so close together and one member complains that Omuh doesn’t post enough while another complains that The_Sentinel posts too much.

It will never be good enough. Something I am very aware of... I take it personally as I have failed in bringing structure for the last years..

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Originally posted by strictguy

I'm sure you don't want your name listed beside rejected or approved pics. It would show the members how little moderating you do since you spend all your time posting to your many forum threads. The wait wouldn't be so long if you put as much energy into moderating other members pics as you do patting yourself on the back and adding to your uploads. Just a suggestion that might bring the wait time down for those who still upload to this site.

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This argument again huh? Wondered how long it would be before you crawled out of your cave.

As I’ve said many times before, I add to my “many forum threads” because I enjoy it. Yes I’m an image moderator, but I’m not paid to do it, I was first a member that simply enjoyed the site. If I only visited the website for “work” then I wouldn’t enjoy it, and I wouldn’t be a mod.

For the most part, my threads seem to be well received. Ratings are good with plenty of awesomes etc. If I start a thread and it doesn’t land well (I’ve had a few of them over the years) then I simply discontinue it.

Also, if I stopped moderating images I can assure you the amount that are currently processed each week would drop significantly.

It’s very bold for someone who contributes absolutely nothing to the site to be such a moany bitch. Just think, if you stopped searching for attention all the time, you could rate so many more uploads a 1…

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Originally posted by boobiemonster

why is it that pictures that were deleted can still be uploaded and are not immediately recognized/rejected , this works for pictures that are compared to the existing ones ?
I suppose in such cases a copy of it is present on the server because it does appear in the queue log and the live log.
The site should be able to reject them as duplicates from the start and it would avoid some frustation.

This would indeed be very useful. I think the recognition element only works if the image is identical to one already on the system; so if a duplicate image is uploaded with slightly different dimensions, it can slip through the net. Sometimes we end up with 5 different versions of the same image on the site and we have to remove 4. But this certainly something for Diz to look into (if he hasn’t already) as it would be useful.

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Originally posted by Diz-X

Here is the first draft of the new upload rules. Please let me know what I am missing or needs tweaking:


Copyrighted or Celebrity content is not allowed

Ensure that you have the right to upload the content. Respect copyright laws and refrain from uploading material that infringes on the intellectual property rights of others.

Refrain from uploading content featuring celebrities or professional models. Photography sessions with amateur models are permitted.

Would it be worth mentioning sites like OnlyFans (behind a paywall) classify as “professional”, as this is a confusing area.

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Originally posted by darkstar001

The site is over-moderated. Pics are sometimes rejected immediately after they are uploaded. Then rejected again when a moderator decides that they are a model/celebrity/underage/other etc and then they can be removed after they've been approved. I never knew that there were so many models and celebrities in the world. To address your point about underage material. I am one of the site's more discerning posters. I won't post if I think that the girl is underage. Those that have been rejected as underage aren't. I have checked their profiles and ascertained that they are over 18 years of age. For example: one of them works in a bar in Newcastle and there are photos of her there.

I have moderated a lot of your uploads and I certainly don’t think there is an issue with you personally when it comes to underage images, so don’t worry about that.
But, using the example you gave about the girl working in a bar in Newcastle - that’s fine that your know she’s over 18, but that information isn’t available to the moderator that happens to see that particular upload. And if the girl looks on the cusp, they’ll reject to be safe.
Of course it’s frustrating to you as the uploader, but hopefully you can see it from this perspective too? This is another example of following up with me or another mod to air your grievance and hopefully getting the rejection overturned.

Something else to be aware of (everyone, not just you) is that large sets of images can suddenly disappear from the site if a girl happens to find out her images are uploaded to the website without her consent - she can file a DMCA notice and Diz has no choice but to remove. So even if you know a girl is just a local girl (not a pro model), her images can be deleted from your approved list and all future uploads of this girl will (or should) be rejected. I’ve had this happen to me a few times and it’s annoying, but there’s nothing we can do about it.

how about someone to review the delete log to create some sort of consistency for what is posted? i know it is open to whoever is reviewing the pics, but there is no consistency. someone reviewing the delete log would create some sort of consistency.

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Originally posted by The_Sentinel

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This argument again huh? Wondered how long it would be before you crawled out of your cave.

As I’ve said many times before, I add to my “many forum threads” because I enjoy it. Yes I’m an image moderator, but I’m not paid to do it, I was first a member that simply enjoyed the site. If I only visited the website for “work” then I wouldn’t enjoy it, and I wouldn’t be a mod.

For the most part, my threads seem to be well received. Ratings are good with plenty of awesomes etc. If I start a thread and it doesn’t land well (I’ve had a few of them over the years) then I simply discontinue it.

Also, if I stopped moderating images I can assure you the amount that are currently processed each week would drop significantly.

It’s very bold for someone who contributes absolutely nothing to the site to be such a moany bitch. Just think, if you stopped searching for attention all the time, you could rate so many more uploads a 1…

It seems you're the one craving attention with so many forum threads and making sure you reply to any of these threads with complaints.
#1- You get a paid membership for moderating, so stop saying you don't get paid.
#2- You're a moron if you think all the time you spend on your forums and uploads doesn't take away from actually getting other members pics uploaded.
#3- 5 or 6 awesomes from people you give special favors to doesn't make your threads great.
#4- If you stopped moderating it's very doubtful the wait time would change, and it would probably improve!
#5- You're right, I stopped contributing to this site because the moderation got so poor it wasn't worth it. If Diz took the time to notice, the daily average quantity, along with the quality of uploads has decreased in the last 5 years. That coincides with when you became a moderator. Kind of points out what members think of you doesn't it. This would be a much better site if you stopped calling everyone with a complaint names, and shut up and spent more time actually working as a moderator. Just a suggestion for your pea-sized brain, but I doubt it will do much good since you're such an attention whore.