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Moderators aren't perfect, it appears

Starter: Danny6108 Posted: 9 years ago Views: 3.0K
#4913349
Lvl 7
Just a couple of observations. I do enjoy this site and recently submitted some photos. I have no problem with most of the pictures being rejected as I realize I don't always know who is a celebrity model, etc. but found it interesting that a couple of pictures that were rejected were totally for the wrong reasons. Both supposedly were rejected for being altered. One would have been a real surprise to a friend who took the picture of his mother in law and wife as supposedly it was altered and no it was not! One other picture was a girl by herself and someone I know and yet declared rejected because it was supposedly altered because the picture of her with a friend was accepted and yet the one of her solo was not. So the moderators need to not trust their software or whatever they use or even instincts all the time as they can be wrong. Other than that this site usually does alright.
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#4913351
Lvl 21
Yeah I've just uploaded 100 OC pics, and I've already got 16 into altered??
#4913352
Lvl 7
And just to be clear I do indeed know especially the mother in law and daughter that I noted was rejected. Have been friends over 20 years and the mother-in-law is 65 this year and her daughter 41. It was not an offensive picture at all indeed very tame as taken on the beach with the mother-in-law in a cover up while her daughter (who is quite attractive) and is a mother of 2 teens and a nurse was in a blue bikini. Yet the moderators or whoever declared it altered. Think the husband or in this case my friend would know if it was altered or not!!
#4913353
Lvl 17
Quote:
Originally posted by eclipseo
Yeah I've just uploaded 100 OC pics, and I've already got 16 into altered??


Please clarify what OC means. Thanks!
#4913354
Lvl 8
Original Content.
#4913376
Lvl 71
There are several reasons that can justify a pic to be rejected for being "altered", the main ones being borders and cropped pics.
While bordered pics are quite easy to check (there is a border or there is not), it gets trickier to determine what's cropped or not.

I personally delete a lot of pictures for being cropped based on my knowledge, google searches and pictures ratio. It's not 100% accurate but quite effective even though a small part of pictures will be rejected wrongly (probably because they were cropped before being uploaded the first time, like some of yours or some r/gonewild content). Like I said before to another member, I'd rather have a few wrongly rejected pics than a ton of cropped pics (that would have been watermarked or duplicates) accepted in the galleries.

So yeah, moderators aren't perfect (we're still human) and so are people uploading pics, far from it.
Hope it clarifies stuff
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#4913378
Lvl 8
If every member only uploaded original pics that were not cropped or altered, there's be no reason for moderators.
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#4913400
I've had issues with this in the past, and still have plenty rejected for the "altered" reason, but as Omuh has said, it's a tricky thing to moderate. My main issue at present is that I google search every single image I upload now, with the aim of choosing the largest/best quality version of each image. Fair enough, lots of duplicates get through and there are a fair few "pros" that I didnt know were pro etc, but I still get loads rejected for being altered. I'm not sure what system is used for judging those, or what else I can do to work out if these photos are indeed altered. I could save the moderators a fair amount of time if I knew how to check, as I would do that prior to uploading. So any advice as to how to do this would be useful.
#4913403
Lvl 80
Having been a moderator, I can attest to the difficulty of the job and the dedication of the people who do it. Since every single picture and video is moderated, you can imagine the workload to keep up with the high volume of uploads. By and large, the mods do a great job. When they make mistakes they do not do so with malice, but with the standards of the site foremost. Occasionally that means material will be rejected due to reasonable doubt. Absolute proof is rare.

Thank you, Danny6108, eclipseo, jhope1, and the others in this thread for being civil and respectful. Too often, members launch into vitriol as though mods were out to do them personal harm. By keeping the conversation even-keeled, we all learn something. Mods are much more likely to take your input seriously when you treat them as people the way you did.
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#4913434
Lvl 8
The general rule of thumb is to err on the side of caution. It's better to reject a picture that looks altered but you can't prove it for sure than to accept a possibly altered photo.
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#4913440
Lvl 71
Quote:
Originally posted by jhope1
I've had issues with this in the past, and still have plenty rejected for the "altered" reason, but as Omuh has said, it's a tricky thing to moderate. My main issue at present is that I google search every single image I upload now, with the aim of choosing the largest/best quality version of each image. Fair enough, lots of duplicates get through and there are a fair few "pros" that I didnt know were pro etc, but I still get loads rejected for being altered. I'm not sure what system is used for judging those, or what else I can do to work out if these photos are indeed altered. I could save the moderators a fair amount of time if I knew how to check, as I would do that prior to uploading. So any advice as to how to do this would be useful.


My advice would be : upload what you feel is ok by the rules. If you notice too many pics deleted for being cropped, reconsider the websites you've been taking the pics from.
From experience I see some members who upload a ton of cropped pics while others have way less, for the same type of content so this probably has to do with where you take the pics from.
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#4918666
Lvl 21
Can you stop flagging every picture taken with a decent camera and the girl taking poses as "Celebrity/model"?
Unless there is obvious professional lighting going on, it's just amateur pics. Nowadays most peeps are able to buy a DSLR with tons of megapixels, it doesn't mean it turns their girlfriends into "models".
#4918669
Lvl 71
Quote:
Originally posted by eclipseo
Can you stop flagging every picture taken with a decent camera and the girl taking poses as "Celebrity/model"?
Unless there is obvious professional lighting going on, it's just amateur pics. Nowadays most peeps are able to buy a DSLR with tons of megapixels, it doesn't mean it turns their girlfriends into "models".

A high quality shot doesn't indeed make someone a model. Someone doing pro shots for a pro photographer does. And this is what I recall removing from your queue as "pros".
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#4918673
Lvl 21
You've removed this one, the picture is nice but this is not pro at all:

#4918714
Lvl 71
Quote:
Originally posted by eclipseo
You've removed this one, the picture is nice but this is not pro at all:

[Link]

I didn't, so can't tell you.
If the mod who removed this one remembers why it was tagged as pro, he can post there. But bear in mind we can't possibly remember everything.
It could also be a missclick, the "duplicate" reason being next to the "pro" one.
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