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Flood of non-adult content?

Starter: motorolapower Posted: 4 months ago Views: 2.8K
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#5544665
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As of today one poster has over 25% of the daily posted pictures. All non nude and all pretty much the same stile of pictures. We also have another poster that hat has over 2,000 pictures of the same woman in pretty much the same exact pose. Perhaps a there should be a limit of how many pictures of the same women is allowed in the guidelines going forward. Or in the case of today have poster deprioritized in the queue. No one here I’m guessing likes any content that’s overly posted repeatedly. I’ll take my -.20 penalty for my negative comment. I’m used to it from the over posters that complain.
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#5544675
Lvl 23
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Originally posted by tv_dinners
this or just block the accounts. Problem solved.


Thnx for the tip
#5545202
Lvl 68
Another huge series 583 pic's completely messed up with 4 or 5 different women

https://whatboyswant.com/babes/naked-babes/4802348?c=s-9755
https://whatboyswant.com/babes/flashing-babes/4684895?c=s-9755
https://whatboyswant.com/babes/flashing-babes/2662142?c=s-9755
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#5551329
Lvl 21
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Originally posted by tv_dinners
this or just block the accounts. Problem solved.

On the New feed right now, "show only NSFW" hides 191 out of the 240 most recent pictures!!! On "the best amateur porn community," not only are the overwhelming majority (79.6%) of pictures not porn, they are safe for work, scraped from social media. 😂
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#5551856
Lvl 71
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Originally posted by motorolapower
On the New feed right now, "show only NSFW" hides 191 out of the 240 most recent pictures!!! On "the best amateur porn community," not only are the overwhelming majority (79.6%) of pictures not porn, they are safe for work, scraped from social media. 😂

Kinda depends on the days. If one day, a lot of uploads from users who uploads a lot of non-nude content shows up in the mod queue, then yeah there will be a lot of those. But if you look at today for example, there's more NSFW stuff.
But yeah, in general, when it comes to amateur content, it's obviously easier to find non-nude sexy content (social medias for example) than nsfw, so that reflects on what people find and upload.
#5551863
Lvl 21
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Originally posted by omuh
Kinda depends on the days. If one day, a lot of uploads from users who uploads a lot of non-nude content shows up in the mod queue, then yeah there will be a lot of those. But if you look at today for example, there's more NSFW stuff.
But yeah, in general, when it comes to amateur content, it's obviously easier to find non-nude sexy content (social medias for example) than nsfw, so that reflects on what people find and upload.

True. It just feels like the overall ratio has completely shifted over the years, from mostly porn with some cute non-nudes mixed in, to a generous amount of non-sexual content mixed with porn. It's gotten really common to scroll through entire pages of pictures and only see a couple thumbnails worth checking out.

I understand that social media gives people a lot more content that they could post but the question is whether it belongs here. If a picture isn't porn when it's on Instagram, does it really belong on "the best amateur porn community"? Is WBW still "the best amateur porn community" if the content is sometimes 80% non-porn? Currently, only 23.9% of users in the poll see the non-adult content positively and nearly half (47.7%) view it negatively.

Personally, I think some people are abusing the site (and its moderators) for points by flooding a porn site with so much non-sexual content.
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#5552018
Lvl 19
There are a few reasons for that but if you say something they don't like you will be specifically targeted with not only deletion of your nude content but also non nude such as bikini photos.
#5552071
Lvl 71
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Originally posted by motorolapower
True. It just feels like the overall ratio has completely shifted over the years, from mostly porn with some cute non-nudes mixed in, to a generous amount of non-sexual content mixed with porn. It's gotten really common to scroll through entire pages of pictures and only see a couple thumbnails worth checking out.

While I agree there has been a shift, probably mainly due to the availability of social media pics (so more non-nude content) + the fact that with how easy now it is to make money from porn pics (onlyfans and such) a lot of the nude content has become pro, I wouldn't say that the change has been that drastic. If you check the archives, you'll see that a lot of pics were also not full NSFW stuff (lots of selfies and bikini pics back then). But yeah, times change and so the content goes with it.

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Originally posted by motorolapower
I understand that social media gives people a lot more content that they could post but the question is whether it belongs here. If a picture isn't porn when it's on Instagram, does it really belong on "the best amateur porn community"? Is WBW still "the best amateur porn community" if the content is sometimes 80% non-porn? Currently, only 23.9% of users in the poll see the non-adult content positively and nearly half (47.7%) view it negatively.

Personally, I think some people are abusing the site (and its moderators) for points by flooding a porn site with so much non-sexual content.

We do remove stuff that "doesn't belong" on WBW, so anything that doesn't show anything sexy/erotic is filtered out (mainly plain clothes with nothing to show, the kinda stuff you'd find on facebook, or family albums). Should that be more strict ? I don't know tbh, the non-nude category was always there back in the day and kinda a big part of the site already so... And you can easily filter it out if you only want NSFW stuff.

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Originally posted by KittyKatz
There are a few reasons for that but if you say something they don't like you will be specifically targeted with not only deletion of your nude content but also non nude such as bikini photos.

I don't know why some of you guys keep having these kind of tinfoil hat theories.
I remember in another thread you claimed your pics where marked as pro for no reason. When you actually were told they were onlyfans pics (and thus the pro tag was warranted), you just decided to ignore that fact and keep going on with your opinion... I don't think there's much we can do if you just ignore the facts...
Doesn't mean the mod process is perfect (this has been discussed to death) but those conspiracy theories are just weird and don't help x_x
#5552077
Lvl 19
I never claimed my deleted photos were models or like you said onlyfans pics but if that makes me ignorant ok then tell me by your definition why the majority of accepted nude photos are non amateurs. By default you will have even less nude content. No wonder there is so many bikini photos but even then you delete them. Weird moderation.
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#5552117
Lvl 21
Quote:
Originally posted by omuh
We do remove stuff that "doesn't belong" on WBW, so anything that doesn't show anything sexy/erotic is filtered out (mainly plain clothes with nothing to show, the kinda stuff you'd find on facebook, or family albums). Should that be more strict ? I don't know tbh, the non-nude category was always there back in the day and kinda a big part of the site already so... And you can easily filter it out if you only want NSFW stuff.

Thanks for the nice response. Obviously there's not a definitive answer to that and the poll here currently has just 96 responses but the results show that the non-porn content is neutral at best for 77% of people and actively disliked by nearly half. To me, that suggests that being more restrictive would be an improvement.

To be clear, I don't necessarily want to see only NSFW content. But I think there is a big difference between a non-nude like this (sexual) vs this (just a couple of modestly dressed women out in public,) or every vacationer who took their picture in front of the sign at this resort (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9). I don't want to miss out on a good picture with the NSFW filter on but when so much of the content is what you might see at just about any bar or restaurant...
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#5552170
Lvl 71
Quote:
Originally posted by KittyKatz
I never claimed my deleted photos were models or like you said onlyfans pics but if that makes me ignorant ok then tell me by your definition why the majority of accepted nude photos are non amateurs. By default you will have even less nude content. No wonder there is so many bikini photos but even then you delete them. Weird moderation.

That's not what I said.
You claimed the pics were deleted for no reason
The Sentinel gave you the reason why they had been deleted (they were onlyfans pics, and thus pro) and offered to clear up the ones where you thought you were wronged.
You then just decided to ignore that and keep your original opinion. Which had me puzzled. But oh well.

I wouldn't say the majority of nude content is pro but yeah a bigger portion of NSFW stuff ends up being pro compared to SFW stuff. Why ? Because random girls don't usually post naked content online. The ones that do are very often doing it for money (onlyfans and such) or are indeed amateurs who just enjoy doing so. But if you compare the number of people like these to all the random women in the world posting pics that can be seen as sexy on social media (instagram and such), there are way way more of those (although some of those can also be pros, since pro model also post tame pics on social medias).
Back in the day, the separation between pro and amateur was a bit easier to make as content like onlyfans didn't really exist. So most pro stuff was pornstars content and pro website and those were pretty obvious for the most part. Then reddit gonewild appeared and people started posting nude stuff here which was still amateur a the time but eventually turned into mostly advertisement for onlyfans/premium content. And those still look kinda amateur-ish which is why so many people now think they are uploading amateur stuff when some of them are actually pro. I don't blame them, but it does warrant it being rejected and you shouldn't take it personnaly when that happens. Hope that helps clears thing up.

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Originally posted by motorolapower
Thanks for the nice response. Obviously there's not a definitive answer to that and the poll here currently has just 96 responses but the results show that the non-porn content is neutral at best for 77% of people and actively disliked by nearly half. To me, that suggests that being more restrictive would be an improvement.

To be clear, I don't necessarily want to see only NSFW content. But I think there is a big difference between a non-nude like (sexual) vs (just a couple of modestly dressed women out in public,) or every vacationer who took their picture in front of the sign at this resort I don't want to miss out on a good picture with the NSFW filter on but when so much of the content is what you might at just about any bar or restaurant...

Yeah I do get where you're coming from.
It's kinda hard to define what can be seen as erotic or not though. For example, the first example you gave, objectively, shows a woman showing her legs in the first pic and women with their legs and a big cleavage showing on the second one. So then it all depends what works for you, but someone who's more into boobs for example might find the second pic to actually have more erotic "value" than the first one.
That's why I personnaly try to keep it as objective as possible and remove pics that don't have at least one of those : full legs showing, cleavage showing, tight clothes showing curves (and obviously all the NSFW stuff).
As for bikini/swimsuit/beach stuff, that's also something that has its own category and technically the women are showing as much as when wearing lingerie. Obviously not the same erotic meaning as lingerie but some people enjoy that.

I personnaly like that WBW has a bit of everything for everyone even if that's not the majority's taste. So not sure this should be filtered out (the same way we never filtered based on the "beauty" of women). But if the ratio of SFW/NSFW is a problem, then maybe what Diz suggested to give a priority to NSFW content in the queue could be a solution.
In the meantime, if you don't wanna filter by NSFW only (because sometimes it filters out stuff you might have liked), you can also chose to remove categories from your feed (like remove non-nude and beach stuff for example)
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#5552172
Lvl 19
Yeah it's crystal clear how you run things here. I was just in process to upload some quality videos but i changed my mind when i noticed you started to also reject my bikini photos. Sorry, it is off topic but is possible to delete all your uploaded content by yourself or by moderation?
#5552173
Lvl 71
Quote:
Originally posted by KittyKatz
Yeah it's crystal clear how you run things here. I was just in process to upload some quality videos but i changed my mind when i noticed you started to also reject my bikini photos. Sorry, it is off topic but is possible to delete all your uploaded content by yourself or by moderation?

I didn't mod any of your pics.
However I did double check the last 5 bikini pics that were rejected in your account and can confirm the rejections were warranted : 2 were of a pro model, 1 was mirrored (so altered) and 2 were cropped (could find the originals online). Again, feel free to think that the mods are "after you" for some reason, but it's just that those pics didn't respect the rules and you don't have to take that personally.

However if you really wanna delete all your uploads, considering the high volume, you can ask Diz-X as he should be able to wipe that (we can only manually delete one by one and that would take ages).
#5552192
Lvl 19
Yes i wanna delete all my uploads. You guys clearly don't appreciate active content uploaders, your loss but thanks anyway. I will try to contact Diz-X.
#5552193
Lvl 21
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Originally posted by omuh
It's kinda hard to define what can be seen as erotic or not though. For example, the first example you gave, objectively, shows a woman showing her legs in the first pic and women with their legs and a big cleavage showing on the second one. So then it all depends what works for you, but someone who's more into boobs for example might find the second pic to actually have more erotic "value" than the first one.


You are right that it's subjective but surely there is some minimum bar to be on a porn site. What makes a non-nude picture erotic could be some combination of what's exposed, a suggestive pose, expression or outfit, among other things. But surely every picture with a half-attractive woman or some exposed skin isn't fair game, is it? These women are pretty but they are also modestly dressed and well behaved. This woman is also pretty but she's also well dressed, literally just eating dinner at an upscale restaurant. You could see a dozen women just like this in public, coming and going from any gym.

One of the examples of my last reply was two women, showing a little bit of skin but nicely dressed for a horse race. Is footage of the crowd at The Kentucky Derby "porn"? How about this picture from it. It has pretty women, form-fitting clothes, cleavage, legs and I like how the blonde woman's hair is messy.



Is this product photo from Shein "porn"? It has a pretty woman, short form-fitting clothes and you can see the tan lines on her hips.

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#5552201
Lvl 19
motorolapower, why would you waste your precious time here if there are better alternative porn sites? With plenty nudity and more active users.
#5552264
Lvl 71
Quote:
Originally posted by KittyKatz
Yes i wanna delete all my uploads. You guys clearly don't appreciate active content uploaders, your loss but thanks anyway. I will try to contact Diz-X.

I mean, I checked your uploads when you asked about deleting them and they're nice !
But if you think that deleting the pics that don't respect the rules is a sign a non-appreciation, I don't really know what to tell you. To me, it just seems like you're taking too personally something that happens to most uploaders, including mods (unless you uploads your very own pics).

If I really didn't care, I wouldn't even have replied to you, wouldn't I ?

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Originally posted by motorolapower
You are right that it's subjective but surely there is some minimum bar to be on a porn site. What makes a non-nude picture erotic could be some combination of what's a suggestive or among other things. But surely every picture with a half-attractive woman or some exposed skin isn't fair game, is it? women are pretty but they are also modestly dressed and well behaved. woman is also pretty but she's also well dressed, literally just eating dinner at an upscale restaurant. You could see a dozen women just like in public, coming and going from any gym.

One of the of my last reply was two women, showing a little bit of skin but nicely dressed for a horse race. Is footage of the crowd at The Kentucky Derby "porn"? How about this picture from it. It has pretty women, form-fitting clothes, cleavage, legs and I like how the blonde woman's hair is this product photo from Shein "porn"? It has a pretty woman, short form-fitting clothes and you can see the tan lines on her

Yeah I understand but then we kinda enter a subjective view on what is a suggestive pose or expression. For instance, using the examples you gave, I personnaly find some of the later ones (the ones that are supposed to be "just public well behaved pics" to be more sexy than some of the first ones. So how do we get to rule those without just going into personnal preferences ? If you look at the ratings too, you'll see that all of them have similar ratings (8+)

On a side note, a long long time ago, there were actually more "non erotic" SFW stuff than now. I don't think anybody filtered stuff that really doesn't belong on a porn site. For example, just do a tag search with "face" and "close-up" and go to the last pages. You'll see many portrait of women, just that. Same goes for plain clothes stuff.

So I think the main issue is rather the propotion of those compared to proper NSFW stuff and that rather than filtering those out, prioritising rarer content would be a better solution. But I don't get to decide on that
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#5554033
Lvl 19
Thank you for your clarification kind sir. Being only uploader is not rewarding so yeah no go for me but i was wondering how do you approach when you find many non amateurs photos and videos? Must you be in moderation staff or is there some other option to be helpful with deleting them
#5554114
Lvl 71
Quote:
Originally posted by KittyKatz
Thank you for your clarification kind sir. Being only uploader is not rewarding so yeah no go for me but i was wondering how do you approach when you find many non amateurs photos and videos? Must you be in moderation staff or is there some other option to be helpful with deleting them

You can report them (preferably with a URL source) and they'll get removed (and you'll get credits for it too)
#5554115
Lvl 34
This idea might minimize non nude content. Only reward half the points you would reward for nude posts. This might work or completely backfire.
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